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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby Brian Davis » June 6, 2010, 6:41 am

The joke is how Immigration make it up as they go along. Not good enough!


trubrit wrote:
jackspratt wrote:
JR wrote:


If the basis of your extension is for retirement (ie not based on marriage) there is no time requirement for money in a Thai bank if you are using income + bank.

That is certainly not the view of Udon immigration. I jokingly said. If the exchange rate gets any worse I might have to bring some savings over for next year . His reply."make sure its in the bank at least 10 days before you come for renewal .
He wasn't joking .
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby marshbags » June 14, 2010, 9:04 am

The Thai sense of humour on the whole is totally different to ours and we should not therefore be surprised when our light hearted offers are falling on deaf ears.

Also of course Thai culture is such that anyone in an official capacity is nearly always taught to be serious in their duties.

Times are slowly changing and this side of things is improving, better understandings are being demonstrated within not only Immigration but local government also, especially when you look at the way it was in times gone by.

The language differences can also create unintentional problems and this then magnifies the various culture divides

From my experiences we have been very fortunate when we compare our Immigration to other areas.

It doesn,t always go our way, but in most cases they are sticking to their interpretation of the laws and we must accept their ruling.

It is nothing personal from a general perspective re there decisions, but again their official interpretations of the rules.

We cannot in any case do much apart from request to see a senior ranking officer to politely try to put our grievances over.

Most importantly is that we can get the latest re our own particular requirements via our forum and updated info as and when we visit.

Then at least we can go as best prepared as we can, especially document wise to hopefully get our stamps ect.

Udonthani in it,s new airport location has had very good reports from many who use it, including myself.

While I am new to Udonmap, I have long held this view and have been vocal on another forum in relation to this.

If I may be allowed to post in an uncondescending and courteous manner...........

Udonmap is for me not only local, but treats it,s members with respect and allows you to post your opinions freely, so long as they are reasonable.

A genuine thank you to everyone for making the forum a welcoming place to be a member of and allowing fair comment /expression.

Long may it continue.

How refreshing it is to be able to debate, post and express ones opinion without someone treating you like kindergarden, one way censorship and bias.

marshbags =D>
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Multi Entry O&A

Postby trubrit » August 24, 2010, 8:56 am

On another topic Bob Helm mentioned getting a Multi-Entry O&A visa which used judicially enables him to stay up to 15months without the hassles of income and bank letters, to say nothing of the other hoops we have to jump through every 90 days .Just simply a trip over the bridge at Nong Khai instead , for which you don't even need a re-entry visa.
Now this interests me but all I can find on the subject is recommendations to get it from the Hull consulate in UK, as it can only be got from your"home" country . Now this rather puts a damper on it for me as I have absolutely no inclination to return, even once a year, back to the place I once called home .However my UK passport has on the cover a note that I am also a citizen of the European Union .My question therefore is. Can I also obtain this visa from a Thai consulate in another EU country? Do our friends on the continent have to get it in their country of birth? Or can they get it from any member state? If I could this would be the way forward for me as I enjoy a holiday in the South of France or a trip to the hills of Tuscany or many other places of far greater interest than a boring trip back to Blighty . It also has the additional benefit that I could take my wife and family with me without going through the interrogation process needed to get them UK visa's. I actually got my wife a Shenigan visa from the French embassy the same afternoon I applied, without any hassle .Which means she could go almost anywhere in Europe except of course , the UK .
Anyone have experience or knowledge on this?
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby jackspratt » August 24, 2010, 9:13 am

Bob was actually talking about an O visa - which is quite different to an O-A.

An O-A, used judiciously, can be good for nearly 2 years - with only a single border run needed at the end of the first 12 months, to avail of the second 12 months.

I have only applied for O-As in my home country, so cannot help you with your question re the EU (or O visas).
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby Zidane » August 24, 2010, 9:18 am

If you are married you can get a Non-Immigrant O Multi-Entry visa from the Thai Consulate in Kuala Lumpur which can last you up to 15 months and would mean you doing the Laos visa run from this area(Udon).
Copy passport,wifes id and tabien baan plus its helpful to show some income to show you can support her....maybe a bank balance of up to 100k baht.
Also,I believe,a letter from your wife requesting that she wishes you to stay with her is useful.

I know its not UK or EU but the same result.....in fact,a lot better.... much less expense for travelling and/or accomodation and enjoy a few days in Malaysia,if you want.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby Ray.Charles » August 24, 2010, 10:46 am

Last year I got my multiple entry O-A from the New York consulate with the last date of entry on 31 August, 2010. Recently, I crossed over to Mynamar and came back with my stay extended to 12 August, 2011. I need to travel outside of Thailand a few times before the Visa expiration date.
When I would be in New York next month,I can get another multi-entry from there for $175, if they have not changed the fee; but I will have the additioal hassle of new medical and police certifications.
What is my best option?
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby jackspratt » August 24, 2010, 10:56 am

Ray why do you need anything further from New York (prior to August 2011)?

If you are going to travel outside Thailand between now and then, you obtain a re-entry permit here to keep your visa alive. Multiple re-entry is 3800 baht, and single is 1000. Certainly cheaper than US$175.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby Ray.Charles » August 24, 2010, 11:16 am

Thanks, JS.
I sort of knew that; but wasn't sure about the fees, etc. So, that is what I will do, that is get a multiple re-entry permit for B3,800.
I am assuming that I can get that at the Udon immigration. I am also assuming that I can get that at any time between now and my departure.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby jackspratt » August 24, 2010, 11:21 am

Yes, and yes.

A multiple will expire on 12 August 2011 ie you cannot use it to enter Thailand after that date.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby Ray.Charles » August 24, 2010, 11:25 am

That settles that. Thanks, again.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby panick » August 25, 2010, 2:02 am

Last year I got my multiple entry O-A from the New York consulate with the last date of entry on 31 August, 2010. Recently, I crossed over to Myanmar and came back with my stay extended to 12 August, 2011


You done a day trip and came back with a year exit stamp?

Your visa expires Aug 2010?

IMO Immigration check not only entry/exit stamps BUT visas as well :-k ... you may well have an exit stamp BUT it's not a visa???

I'd check first with immigration before hangin' the flags out as over stay is ฿500/day up to a max of ฿20,000 :shock: take the piss and stay another year could result in deportation :cry:
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby jackspratt » August 25, 2010, 6:53 am

A 12 month, multi-entry O-A visa entitles you to a further 12 month stay each time you enter Thailand within the 1 year validity of the visa.

Based on what he has written, Ray has a valid 12 month stamp in his passport - overstay is not an issue.
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby lepidoptra » August 25, 2010, 2:33 pm

jackspratt wrote:A 12 month, multi-entry O-A visa entitles you to a further 12 month stay each time you enter Thailand within the 1 year validity of the visa.

Based on what he has written, Ray has a valid 12 month stamp in his passport - overstay is not an issue.


Just my experience with an A-0 retirement multi entry visa issued at the Thai Embassy in London.
I left Thailand and when I returned my passport had a stamp showing that I had another 12 months permission to stay.
That's great I Thought. I allowed my A-O visa to expire thinking I could stay another 12months as shown by the stampat re-entry to Thailand at Bangkok airport.
Alas went to Nong Khai immigration (90 day report) and was immediately admonished for allowing my original visa to expire.
I pointed out the stamp to no avail.
I was told to go to Vientenne the next day to obtain an O visa.
I returned to Nong Khai with the 3 month O visa and with all the necessary documentation I was given the 12 month extension.
I learn't NEVER allow a current visa to expire.
One last point I did not incur any financial penalty at immigration.
Any comment Jackspratt.?
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby jackspratt » August 25, 2010, 2:46 pm

lep, what were the dates of:

- the original visa issued in London?
- your returning to Thailand and getting the further 12 months permission to stay?
- going to NK for your 90 day report (and admonishment)?
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Re: Visa (O-A) rules

Postby lepidoptra » August 26, 2010, 9:11 am

hi Jacksprat
The A-O visa was issued 5 years ago. I left Thailand on several occasions and always got the 12 month stamp in my passport when I returned
A friend told me to make my presence known at NK immigration. It was then I met Mr Happy. He was the man who sent me to Vientiane.
Since then I have renewed my O visa producing the UK Embassy letter and have no further problems
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