Wikileaks

some wise words:

I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.
Abraham Lincoln

cookie wrote:some wise words:

I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.
Abraham Lincoln

Just as long as they are not consevatives,right?

Rising up to meet any national crisis has a different,more urgent and timely response in this day and age versus Lincolns time!And who accepts facts and facts from whom?Plus this is probably political rhetoric on Lincolns part as the people of his time were busier killing each other on a scale that has yet to be matched in US history

I wonder what purpose Wikileaks serves to the international populations?Create more animosity between peoples ,I guess by making private,public?Of course they can only do that to us,not our foes,because it means nothing what they think,say and do.We of the West must be prim,proper and carry the moral standard while they blow us up on the way to showing us all,Utopia on Earth!

[quote="BobHelm"]I guess that the owners of Wikileaks would say it is all about openness & honesty.

if so ,
why dont they spill the beans on chinese and , russian confidential info. ,
ALL, countries have their own err, confidential profiles on world shakers / movers .

right now USA , leaders are apeshite, about wilkileaks ,

the CIA are experts @ engineering , so called accidents .
wilki execs , you have been warned , RIP.

Speculating, methinks the leak happened as part of Mitch McConnel's stated objective to make Obama a one-term President. It is common knowledge that when Republicans are in charge, they appoint people who ensure that there are enough moles infesting the machine to make things like this happen. I mean, c'mon...this info gets leaked by a Private First Class and that does not strike anyone as odd? The majority of info is from the past few years so that it has maximum impact on current foreign relations. The quality and level of classified material is just enough to cause problems and serious embarrassment for the Administration, but not outright jeopardize the most serious of matters. Note that the PFC who leaked did not have any overtly criminal motive. There are plenty of rightwing nuts who would happily put on a uniform and take one for the team if it means bringing down Obama and/or his legacy.

This may sound like a far-fetched conspiracy theory, but the timing and motivation of all this should raise suspicion in everyone's mind. Of all the times for such an embarrassing thing to happen, it happens on Obama's watch and is perpetrated by a PFC. One can only hope the REAL journalists get to the bottom of the matter. I have yet to see any thorough reporting about the PFC's background and past affiliations and that of the suddenly "patriotic" black hat hacker who reported him to the authorities.

A PFC stumbles across the cache of info and decides to leak it to Wikileaks. Why? Just because. Sorry, it doesn't make sense. It is odd that he would have such access. It is odd that any American, especially one patriotic enough to voluntarily enlist for military service, would not refrain from passing on the info out of civic duty or fear of treason.

Let's see how and how much they crow about this during campaigning for 2012.

KHONDAHM wrote:Speculating, methinks the leak happened as part of Mitch McConnel's stated objective to make Obama a one-term President.

Just because someone calls you paranoid dosen't mean they aren't out to get you. The " great right-wing conspiracy" rears it's ugly head.

Having read in the British press about the leaks, I can only come to the conclusion that if they are as stated US Diplomatic cables etc, then there are some really sad people working for the US Government, there cables about what they think of people is based on what their knowledge of the person or just their petty assumptions based on their petty lives, they go to prestigious University in the States, work for either the so-called wonderful CIA,FBI or other such intelligent service and they have the gall to speculate on the capability of peopl around the globe, based on what the poor ineffectual politicans that they have at home .

I mean the leaks show just how insecure the USA really is, I appreciate the country is only young compared to European standards but really, they should learn to be a bit more objective .

Thank God for Wikileaks and the Swedish gowerment where they can keep there server safe.....they show that....the big ones....arnt safe when they do bad things around the world and f......ng around whit people in the name of...........peace.....

Well not every one is Worried about the Leaks......http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wo ... rn-saudis/

some people really do have to get the facts right:

Why is nobody blaming the US State Department?
They are the first to blame,
and not the World Media (Wikileaks included).

The World Media did the right thing: reporting the Wikileaks documents.
In a functioning democracy, their job is not to save government from embarrassment,
The primary job of the Media is to report to the public.
This was always the job of the Media and it should stay this way.

Wikileaks has again provided a significant service to disclosure and openness in government relations. Unfortunately, it won't cause any more openness or disclosure on the part of governments. They will simply take more steps to keep their communications private.

Most of the documents are not classified:

•15, 652 secret
•101,748 confidential
•133,887 unclassified

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/