Yellow House Books

martynsnowman wrote:i was at the amphur office yesterday to sort out my yellow book , every thing done in about 40 mins
but the head man from village was busy could not make it untill today . so they took my photo printed it
on paper , my wife , myself and the lady doing the paper work all signed it , he,s going to office 9.30 this morning to sign . job done no cost at all , lady said it,ll take around 14 days but shey,ll call us when ready .

BKKSTAN wrote:Interesting how some people have things go smoothly at the Amphur office while others have difficulty!I wonder if the position of their wife in the community makes a difference?

Astana wrote:If that is the case what is the real utility of getting a yellow book? What does it do for you if your always going to be out trumped even though your legal argument may well be correct?

wazza wrote:Its a valuable document and saves heaps of paper work and needless revisits if u need drivers licences , buying a car, renting , marrriage and u need immigration letters .

papaguido wrote:FYI,

The source of the following statement provides it's definition of the Tabien Baan. I also found the paragraph in bold to be of interest.

The Tabien Baan, or House Registration Document, is issued by the municipality. It shows who lives at a property (it is not proof of property ownership). It can be issued to residents of Thailand who:

1. buy a lease hold which is registered at the land office
2. own land through a company or buy a condo

A Tabien Baan is useful - and sometimes required - when applying for services. Either the occupant or landlord's document is accepted.

Applying for a Tabien Baan

A Tabien Baan can be applied for or updated at the local Amphur office (or Khet in Bangkok).

Resident foreigners are entitled to a Tabien Baan; the following are required:

* Passport and valid visa
* Plus:
o condo title with their name on it
o or land lease with their name on it
o or land title with company name on it (in this case all the company documents will be needed)

A Tabien Baan is issued bearing the owner's name, except in the case for foreigners when it may only have the location of the property.

On moving out of a property, the Tabien Baan should be given to the new occupants. Take it to the Amphur or Khet (in Bangkok) where an official will enter that the old occupiers have moved out and add the names of the new occupiers.

Although people may stay on the same Tabien Baan for life, it must be issued by the province in which they are resident if they wish to vote. A new Tabien Baan is always needed by the new owners after buying property.

Source:

http://bangkok.angloinfo.com/countries/ ... enbaan.asp

BKKSTAN wrote:Interesting how some people have things go smoothly at the Amphur office while others have difficulty!I wonder if the position of their wife in the community makes a difference?

BKKSTAN wrote:Interesting how some people have things go smoothly at the Amphur office while others have difficulty!I wonder if the position of their wife in the community makes a difference? .

papaguido wrote:No I think not. I highly doubt that a hair dresser has much pull in the community.

trubrit wrote:polehawk said:
''WTF cares about Nong Wor Sor, anyway? You can't even find it on a map. Since when did you "elitists" out there start speaking for the entire Udon populace? 3 or 4 of you acting like you have city hall connections.....pathetic. Speak only for yourselves. ''


As it happens, I do,so do many others that live here. Your inability to find it on the map speaks volumes about your navigational abilities. Presumably your ventures into the beautiful countryside that abounds not far from the urban area of Udon are strictly limited. For your enlightenment let me give you some details. It is located on the main road to Nong Bua Lamphoe approximately 26k from Udon on the airport side.It is a reasonably large village, but more than that it has an Amphur status, which in case you are not aware means it is a self governing area of many surrounding villages of varying size. Its total population is equal to Udons and its Farang residents are almost as many , having the second largest concentration in the North East. The Amphur Nong Wor Sor is actually located in the second largest village, Non Wai, which is where I live.
When I ,or others from here write of our experiences with officialdom, we are generally referring to that office not Udon , nor are we purporting to be representative of the entire Udon populace. Yes , possibly, we do consider ourselves to be special, I think elitist may be dependent of your interpretation of the word, not ours. We are special in fact because we feel we are very fortunate to live in such a friendly community where our feelings do matter to the people in charge, and our input is actively encouraged.
I won't degenerate this into the same tone as your reply. Sufficient to say your avatar, of a barking dog, seems , somehow appropriate.

Astana wrote:So, if you have a legal dispute with your wife and it goes to court the yellow book being out trumped by the blue book is next to worthless.

Moreover, each of the benefits you describe you have to pay for including the yellow book (a utility bill would suffice in most countries, except more totalitarian ones) consequently I see little utility in having one since your right of abode or more importantly citizenship is denied and your residency is not permanent being for one year at a time, and as no one is allowed full immigrant status even if married to a Thai (a clear breach of UN the charter on immigration and human rights), it would seem to be even more useless than one would first think.

Nevertheless if it provides a some form of a security blanket or a sense of warmth for some folks who amI to get in their way as it is their time and money.