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Re: บุญถาวร Boonthavorn

Post by marcudon » July 19, 2017, 12:31 pm

Frienfly staff,helpfull and knowledgeable!!!...Only that. Are you part of boonthavorn bangkok managment? Funny to read that. I was back again yesterday with a friend of mine who is also building a house. We were only 2 customers watching the kitchens..Nobody came to us and as always they stayed sitting playing on facebook..I should have take some pictures and post it here..But anyway, I don't only go there to have a coffee at beyond, as many seem to do even if i enjoy the place. I just want to buy a kitchen ( priced around 500.000 THB non included kitchens appliances ) and 450 sqm tiles...for an amount around 1m THB ..I feel very sorry but, i went there may be 20 times and i have never found someone skilled and ,worse,motivated.They are hundreds doing nothing . But they will say hello to you every 10 meters with fake thai smile. Never ask for some informations about any product because they will only give you a catalogue to read by yourself.
This is not a matter of communication, because i can speak thai quite well.I sent two thai friends of mine at the kitchen department to have a look and they had the same feeling as i did..Unskilled,lazy,not motivated staff...What a shame for such a nice shop..They invested a lot of money on 20 Rais. Only kids 20 25 years old are working there,what can they know about kitchens and tiles?? And why don't they move their a.. for 1 m THB. In europe they will call you every 2 days or they would be fired!
I will try to have a look at khon kaen next week, or if someone know where to go to find a nice built in kitchen with a skilled staff even far from Udon i would appreciate!

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Re: บุญถาวร Boonthavorn

Post by Barney » July 19, 2017, 1:30 pm

I have been going into Boonthavorn at lot since it opened. It opened well after we started building our house so we missed the boat on a number of items they may provide. But they are not really a concrete, pipe and bolt type hardware.
We had been visiting St Mall in the early stages of our build and had a good experienced contact at that shop, then found she had moved to Boonthavorn to work and she called us out when she saw us in the shop. She has been our main contact there each time and has introduced us to various shop area people to assist.
The place is expensive on some items and we have used the shop to procure and also to check prices from other stores.
We have purchased tiles, some feature lights, quality ceiling fans, door accessories like security locks and hinges etc.
They do have quality stuff and usually the latest model in a range. Hence the higher range of prices.
They opened their doors to late for us to look at kitchens but we have a very good quality kitchen from another company in Udon. That can be seen on "My house Build" thread.
In general we have always got good service. They are not always the place to choose items but I treat them as an asset to Udon even if only to compare quality products and prices to other stores. We buy from many shops in town.

Those whom have had bad first up experiences from staff or product displays should not let your stubbornness deter you from going back to check other items.
The coffee shop has no bearing on if I go there or not.
Their rewards program is Ok and I think a good voucher system.

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Post by kopkei » July 19, 2017, 1:44 pm

well if you want a kitchen installed by a real professional company , go take a look at decor choice ...
they did our first kitchen 16 years ago , very skillful and they speak english too...
but they were now too expensive for what we needed ...so not a cheap shop but skillful one...
index did a good job too once ...not easy to give advice because some people are way to difficult and are making everything too complicated , as they are forgetting it is still los here... ;)

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Post by wazza » July 19, 2017, 1:49 pm

Go the manager of the store direct.

Homepro use Starmark and WOULD NOT recommend to anyone. Had 2 gas flashbacks inside my home when installing my Smeg unit.

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Post by Barney » July 19, 2017, 3:58 pm

kopkei wrote:
July 19, 2017, 1:44 pm
well if you want a kitchen installed by a real professional company , go take a look at decor choice ...
they did our first kitchen 16 years ago , very skillful and they speak english too...
but they were now too expensive for what we needed ...so not a cheap shop but skillful one...
index did a good job too once ...not easy to give advice because some people are way to difficult and are making everything too complicated , as they are forgetting it is still los here... ;)
kopei

Totally agree. We are in Thailand and most of these employees are learners so give them some slack, it's their next level of supervision that is the missing link. I actually enjoy the experience and try to provide some humour with the novices, they are usually shy to be in conversation with a westerner. Most move in close to listen.
I am not trying being a smart ar.e know all and just passing on my experiences, extensive research is a must if you want something specific and to a required quality as opposed to an off the shelf item.

Just had my kitchen done by Décor from Udon. Yes pricey because of my requirements, but what a fantastic quality product. All white good , well silver colour, included. Photos on my thread "My house build begins".

Just go and enjoy the experience where ever you buy thing.
Even when running the gauntlet of missed placed barricades.

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Post by RLTrader » July 19, 2017, 6:12 pm

marcudon wrote:
July 19, 2017, 12:31 pm
Frienfly staff,helpfull and knowledgeable!!!...Only that. Are you part of boonthavorn bangkok managment? Funny to read that. I was back again yesterday with a friend of mine who is also building a house. We were only 2 customers watching the kitchens..Nobody came to us and as always they stayed sitting playing on facebook..I should have take some pictures and post it here..But anyway, I don't only go there to have a coffee at beyond, as many seem to do even if i enjoy the place. I just want to buy a kitchen ( priced around 500.000 THB non included kitchens appliances ) and 450 sqm tiles...for an amount around 1m THB ..I feel very sorry but, i went there may be 20 times and i have never found someone skilled and ,worse,motivated.They are hundreds doing nothing . But they will say hello to you every 10 meters with fake thai smile. Never ask for some informations about any product because they will only give you a catalogue to read by yourself.
This is not a matter of communication, because i can speak thai quite well.I sent two thai friends of mine at the kitchen department to have a look and they had the same feeling as i did..Unskilled,lazy,not motivated staff...What a shame for such a nice shop..They invested a lot of money on 20 Rais. Only kids 20 25 years old are working there,what can they know about kitchens and tiles?? And why don't they move their a.. for 1 m THB. In europe they will call you every 2 days or they would be fired!
I will try to have a look at khon kaen next week, or if someone know where to go to find a nice built in kitchen with a skilled staff even far from Udon i would appreciate!
With just a million burning a hole, just might want to check with "Do Home" or maybe "Global House" I'm sure if you inform them in your excellent thai, that you have a mill + to spend, they will go out of their way to set you up. Then again you could go back to the EU and spare as all your BS.

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Post by trubrit » July 19, 2017, 8:40 pm

No Marcudon Not a member of the management team, nor do I have a million burning a hole in my pocket, I wonder how the" kids" were supposed to know you had, were you flashing it around for all to see? After all experience has taught me good manners and a pleasant personality is often more impressive to strangers than any amount of money you may claim to have .As my mother use to say, "All mouth and no trousers " we seem to see a lot of around Udon . :-"
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Post by wazza » July 19, 2017, 8:59 pm

6 yrs ago when I was shopping for kitchens i wish this place had opened.

One of the pitfalls of buying a kitchen for me was trying to sort out apples and pears.

St Mall and Homepro both quoted kitchens with autocad drawings to scale and all the smart draws and hinges etc.

Quotes from.memory around 400K.

Seemed pretty good and about to sign up when I was asked what type of bench top. Thought i had sorted that.

Wrong. In those days . The tops for the kitchen frame are additional add ons due the price. I choose the Samsung white top.

With a breakfast bench and a u shaped kitchen. From memory it was another 200 K !!

Checked with other shortlisted supplier. They too dont quote for the tops in the original kitchen set up.

These figures exclude gas oven . Fridge hot water taps and sinks.

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Post by marcudon » July 19, 2017, 9:14 pm

Thanks guys,
Most of your posts and private messages were very helpful, some were from 2 idiots...But that's life!
Fortunatly i know some good guys here.
Thank's again.

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Post by kopkei » July 20, 2017, 7:54 am

one important tip ...do not buy the granite kitchen top in the kitchen shops , they are double priced to the granite shops outside for exact same material, and the outside shops have skilled workers too to install them ... ;)

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Post by marcudon » July 20, 2017, 9:56 am

I agree kopkei, but I only know one shop outside of udon on the way to nong khai. I bought a kitchen granite top there 5 years ago, looked nice when new, but after a while under my coffee expresso machine some black coffee penetrated inside the granite and I cannot remove it. But that was very cheap, around 3000 or 4000 one sqm. Bonthavorn top quartz 18000 and granite depending on the model around 9000. If you know a good shop I will go and have a look. Thank you very much!

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Post by RLTrader » July 20, 2017, 2:10 pm

marcudon wrote:
July 20, 2017, 9:56 am
I agree kopkei, but I only know one shop outside of udon on the way to nong khai. I bought a kitchen granite top there 5 years ago, looked nice when new, but after a while under my coffee expresso machine some black coffee penetrated inside the granite and I cannot remove it. But that was very cheap, around 3000 or 4000 one sqm. Bonthavorn top quartz 18000 and granite depending on the model around 9000. If you know a good shop I will go and have a look. Thank you very much!
Oh so now Bonthavorn has quality,
Bonthavorn top quartz 18000 and granite
Will guess you saw the light! =D> just hate the natives. =D> :D

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Post by kopkei » July 20, 2017, 4:56 pm

i was in boonthavorn today and from the first steps we have put inside the kitchen section someone all ready come ask to assist us, and i saw the regular faces (i know some one who works there) with whom we have ordered the kitchen ...
i did tell them about the bad service marcudon experienced and they seem to recall having a falang with his wife entering the shop and waving away the assistance offered , he wanted to look first himself , when they followed him he told them not to follow as it was disturbing ...so all personnel stopped bother assisting him , later on he did wanted info about a kitchen and asked the one responsible for the electric area in the back?...
of course if you chase of first all assistance and than you are angry you do not get assistance anymore ? ....
left the shop saying he had 2.000.000 baht burning his pocket to buy a kitchen and appliances ...his thai wife did not say anything all the road ...
so this is the explication of the one of the staff we know , if this is related here? , can not say ...
anyway our kitchen story ...
i went to look many shops before buying a kitchen ( we have time as we are building next to our present home, started in 2016)..to me easy , where not to go , global house , thaiwatsadu , dohome , homehub , all incompetent giving any estimate at all ...., remaining , decor choice very professional but too expensive for our budget , homepro , not bad quote (123.000 baht) (prices all without granite top) , so we went to index where we bought our kitchen of our present home and they made a price of 110.000 baht , last boonthavorn whom ended up with a price of around 89.000 baht - 20% discount ...making the price 75.000 baht and were the winners , as the estimate asked was in index and boonthavorn about a kitchen in MDF wood , and mdf is same mdf everywhere , i am passed pumping a lot of money in a home (after 3 home builds ),as we do not take anything when we die ....and if we are tired of the kitchen ? we will be able to replace and still will not have spend more than 500.000 baht ...
however the appliances we bought are expensive ,gas stove and oven (90cm, 5 burners ) 66.405 baht, and hood 19.990 as we like to cook , granite sink 15.400 baht , so the appliances are more expensive than our kitchen :lol: ..
good luck to all ;)

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Post by marcudon » July 20, 2017, 6:51 pm

Not me Kopkei, I've always been to boonthavorn alone or with a friend of mine who was working about kitchens in europe..I've just showed to my gf a few months ago and only during 10 minutes ,because she works and doesn't have much time, a kitchen that i really like there, and never said to anyone how much i wanted to put in a kitchen, this is certainly not my style.And 2.000.000 THB...What a joke! I spent much more time watching the tiles and this is the place to buy very nice tiles. And some kitchens are very nice too and high quality. And if you know someone there Kopkei, i would appreciate if you could introduce me to a good kitchen designer, because so far i met nobody..But may be that i was there the wrong days...I guess that they have someone skilful to design kitchens priced at that level of prices.
Anyway, i just wanted to answer quickly to reframe things.I am not here on udon map to argue with anyone..I just try sometime to get some informations ,and if i can give a pertinent answer to help anyone i always do it.
Thanks to all of you who tried to help. To the others..Just try to be more happy in your life, and before to give an answer to any post,read it fist.
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Re: บุญถาวร Boonthavorn

Post by kopkei » July 20, 2017, 7:15 pm

as i said before ,i do not know also if the boonthavorn reply is related here ...(or true?)
so about granite , you have the shop on the road going to nongkhai ...
you have a shop on the road going sakon nakhon ,(road 22, opposite the first u turn,must u turn second one )
and you have a shop going khon kaen and on the opposite side of the road coming back ...as info ;)

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