Brexit and Leadership.

Post by **vincemunday** » October 6, 2018, 1:56 pm

vincemunday wrote: ↑
October 6, 2018, 7:39 am
I have no objections to anyone working in the UK Eastern or Western as long as they assimilate, and work hard.

My main business was far more international than depending on local employees of any description, our main business came out of the US, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Russia etc as well as the European countries. I've definitely no issue with Eastern Europeans, I've employed Polish, Lithuanians and Czechs when we had our catering business and found them to be very hard working, reliable people, far more reliable than British to be fair. Brexit isn't just about immigration, it's about sovereignty and self determination as well, i think the European bloc will slowly fall apart and I think we're just getting out sooner rather than later, the Southern European countries have had it hard, some might think the wealth should have been shared around a bit more. People are just getting their heads around a Canadian +++ style deal, something Farage et al have been asking for, for a while, imo its the best solution and WTO rules are nothing to fear.

Post by **vincemunday** » October 6, 2018, 1:58 pm

There'll be no new vote.

Post by **Zico** » October 6, 2018, 2:20 pm

vincemunday wrote: ↑
October 6, 2018, 1:56 pm

vincemunday wrote: ↑
October 6, 2018, 7:39 am
I have no objections to anyone working in the UK Eastern or Western as long as they assimilate, and work hard.
My main business was far more international than depending on local employees of any description, our main business came out of the US, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Russia etc as well as the European countries. I've definitely no issue with Eastern Europeans, I've employed Polish, Lithuanians and Czechs when we had our catering business and found them to be very hard working, reliable people, far more reliable than British to be fair. Brexit isn't just about immigration, it's about sovereignty and self determination as well, i think the European bloc will slowly fall apart and I think we're just getting out sooner rather than later, the Southern European countries have had it hard, some might think the wealth should have been shared around a bit more. People are just getting their heads around a Canadian +++ style deal, something Farage et al have been asking for, for a while, imo its the best solution and WTO rules are nothing to fear.

=D>

Brexit is about many things to many people, sovereignty is probably the worst and most misguided. North Korea is the most sovereign nation on earth these days because it is so isolated. If you trade you have to compromise something and the more you trade the more you compromise.

The EU eliminates 'unelected bureaucrats and red tape' completely opposite to what Farrage and his Daily Mail jingoistic band wagon spout. The EU is really good for business, that's why Corbyn hates it.

There has to be a vote either in parliament on another referendum to get Brexit done. I hope by then most rational Brexiters have got the tantrum out of their system and we can go back to being the best golf team in the world.

Post by **Zico** » October 6, 2018, 2:47 pm

vincemunday wrote: ↑
October 6, 2018, 1:58 pm
There'll be no new vote.

There has to be a confirmation of the final outcome, either in parliament or by plebiscite. The EU won't commit to an agreement on anything with a UK government which could collapse at any time.

Post by **vincemunday** » October 6, 2018, 2:58 pm

Come what may we leave the EU on March 29, 2019, the EU have already made it quite clear that there will be no extension. What there might be is a final vote on the deal we have or haven't agreed. My guess is we are being readied for no deal which is why the EU is now pushing us towards a Canadian style deal, we will see.

Post by **Giggle** » October 6, 2018, 9:30 pm

Just as Dr. Faustus learned, when you make a pact with the devil, you can't back out when the going gets rough, or if you have a change of heart. Britain's tryst with the EU lasted 40 years while Faust only enjoyed 24 years of magical reign, with Mephistopheles as his personal servant. Faustus, like Britain, failed to see the warnings and ignored their implications. At the 11th hour, Faustus tried to repent and beg for mercy, to no avail -- he had sold his soul to Lucifer. Similarly, Britain finds itself trying to back out of a deal it joined willingly and enthusiastically.

Marlowe's take on the German legend is prophetic; a pound of flesh will be the levy. The devils will "tear it asunder."

Post by **GT93** » October 7, 2018, 1:32 am

This is all becoming a lesson in how not to Brexit. Hopefully the next country going out the door has an easier path.

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