Zidane wrote: ↑

March 28, 2018, 9:54 am

Plus in the Test Australia lost all 10 wickets in the final session to slump from 57-0 to 107 all out to lose the match by 322 runs.
So the ball tampering did them a lot of good didnt it.........

You got it all wrong Zid. Lillee and Marsh had $100.00, at 500/1, on them being all out within the session. The boys were just obliging. It's the Aussie way cobber

12 months Smith, 12 months Warner and 9 months Bancroft. More than what Hershel Gibbs got for throwing matches for Hansie.

Smith, 28, and Bancroft, 25, have also been suspended from captaining Australia for the next two years.

Warner, 31, will not be considered for "any team leadership positions in the future", Cricket Australia said.

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Steve Smith I think is a good guy who made a huge mistake ... He needed punishing but I think this is too harsh ... Bancroft who I don’t know was led astray but deserved punishing but again too harshly IMO ... The other guy I really don’t care about ...

2:30 am - 28 Mar 2018

An ABC survey couldn't manage to find ANYBODY that cared about "the other guy" until his mum changed her mind after being told he would be spending at least half a year at home from now on

Most revealing article so far https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket ... 4z6sk.html

Id say playing another Country is an international game , match . or Contest doesn't realy matter what it was barney they were caught cheating and should have the full weight of the law laid on them. Personally id ban them from International cricket for life.

Hang them from the highest tree

vlad wrote: ↑

March 28, 2018, 11:34 pm

Id say playing another Country is an international game , match . or Contest doesn't realy matter what it was barney they were caught cheating and should have the full weight of the law laid on them. Personally id ban them from International cricket for life.

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I do not follow or understand cricket, but I agree that the cheats should be banned forever. In baseball Pete Rose was caught betting on games, including his own team. Not only did he break baseball's golden rule (betting) he was the manager of the team and could influence the final result of games.

Rose has been banned from baseball for life in any capacity, and kept out of the Hall of Fame despite his all-star statistics.

Barney wrote: ↑

March 28, 2018, 8:49 pm

Penalty is to harsh IMO.
It is a precedent penalty that no other country has or will follow.
Why is it an ACB penalty and not an ICC penalty.
It was an International tournament.


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They have the right of appeal and I hope Smith does. CA has made an example of them but with a decent silk I think Smith could argue that he wasn't his brothers keeper (not in the Rod Marsh sense). Warner seems the real villain and Bancroft just dumb and misguided junior player. I think it would be just for Smith and Bancroft to miss 6 months and be available at the start of the next Australian season. I don't think Warner's suspension length matters as there is very little chance that he will play first class cricket again in Australia. He will just have to resign himself to making $3 or $4 million a year on the 20/20 circuit around the world.

Maybe that was Warner's intention in the first place. Cannot believe that anyone in this era of cricket would be that naive to believe that they would get away with it? Also why would they even consider it unless there was a request from the bowler/s? I don't believe for one minute that Boof isn't implicated. All too sinister!

Laan Yaa Mo wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 4:47 am

vlad wrote: ↑

March 28, 2018, 11:34 pm

Id say playing another Country is an international game , match . or Contest doesn't realy matter what it was barney they were caught cheating and should have the full weight of the law laid on them. Personally id ban them from International cricket for life.

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I do not follow or understand cricket, but I agree that the cheats should be banned forever. In baseball Pete Rose was caught betting on games, including his own team. Not only did he break baseball's golden rule (betting) he was the manager of the team and could influence the final result of games.

Rose has been banned from baseball for life in any capacity, and kept out of the Hall of Fame despite his all-star statistics.

What's the ban in baseball for using a corked bat? What the Australian players did equates more with that. Hansie Cronje the South African captain and Mohamed Azarudin the Indian captain both received lifetime bans for fixing games for bookmakers and roping in other players to throw games for bookmakers.

tataw wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 5:47 am

Maybe that was Warner's intention in the first place. Cannot believe that anyone in this era of cricket would be that naive to believe that they would get away with it? Also why would they even consider it unless there was a request from the bowler/s? I don't believe for one minute that Boof isn't implicated. All too sinister!

Appears that Warner has been getting away with it for some time, at least the last ashes series and probably before that. Bancroft's attempt was more in the class of Atherton, Dravid, Afridi and Du Plessis who were also caught blatantly cheating on camera.

We all knew that Warner was a bit rough around the edges. Maybe he just needed to be "smoothed" over.......

Just out of interest.Who here on this forum forgives those involved?
"All I can do in the short term is ask for forgiveness, I hope you can find it in your hearts to allow me to progress on that journey, for now I will do my best to contribute to the community."-Cameron Bancroft.

I think it's a bit harsh, after all its only what they have been doing for as many years as I can remember .... pushing the limits of what they can get away with.

With this sort of ban just for a bit of cheating I'm wondering what sort of bans Cookie, Root and the rest of the England team will get for bringing the game into disrepute by being bl**dy useless

I forgive them but not a big fan of the crying on camera. Makes Smith look like a girl or Jonathon Trott. Hope nobody is going to play the mental health card as that would push my forgiveness.
I've been involved with cricket with the same club for over 40 years and have seen things on and off field that make this episode seem pretty tame. They did the wrong thing and should be punished but the that's enough.
Am looking forward to Davy Warner getting off the plane. Wonder what he will say? I'd be surprised if the tip rat cried

Raoul Duke wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 3:46 pm

Just out of interest.Who here on this forum forgives those involved?
"All I can do in the short term is ask for forgiveness, I hope you can find it in your hearts to allow me to progress on that journey, for now I will do my best to contribute to the community."-Cameron Bancroft.

When you are selected to represent your country whichever that country maybe.
You should be proud that someone thinks you are the best at your sport.

If you resort to cheating to try & win a game then you are clearly not the best.

All the people involved which I personally think more than the 3 named are involved you should be banned for life for representing your country.

These are professional cricketers so their livelihood is playing cricket.
I would not go as far as banning them from the game completely but never let them bring their country into shame again.

pal52 wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 4:56 pm

Raoul Duke wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 3:46 pm

Just out of interest.Who here on this forum forgives those involved?
"All I can do in the short term is ask for forgiveness, I hope you can find it in your hearts to allow me to progress on that journey, for now I will do my best to contribute to the community."-Cameron Bancroft.

When you are selected to represent your country whichever that country maybe.
You should be proud that someone thinks you are the best at your sport.

If you resort to cheating to try & win a game then you are clearly not the best.

All the people involved which I personally think more than the 3 named are involved you should be banned for life for representing your country.


These are professional cricketers so their livelihood is playing cricket.
I would not go as far as banning them from the game completely but never let them bring their country into shame again.

So how long would you give them? Du Plessis got caught twice and never missed a game.

marjamlew wrote: ↑

March 29, 2018, 4:55 pm

I forgive them but not a big fan of the crying on camera. Makes Smith look like a girl or Jonathon Trott. Hope nobody is going to play the mental health card as that would push my forgiveness.
I've been involved with cricket with the same club for over 40 years and have seen things on and off field that make this episode seem pretty tame. They did the wrong thing and should be punished but the that's enough.
Am looking forward to Davy Warner getting off the plane. Wonder what he will say? I'd be surprised if the tip rat cried

Yes.I agree with the waterworks.We don't need to see that.IMO the twelve month Ban,loss of sponsorship and stripping of leadership roles and banning from any future leadership is acceptable.
Who will be the next skipper?
Could Australia have a first for our cricket??
A paceman as Captain???
Pat Cummins