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Re: classifieds

Post by mathusalah80 » February 23, 2018, 4:54 pm

In reply to your latest post dragonz.

1. Flagging/identifying, non responding advertisers..
While appearing easy in theory, I doubt it would work in practice. If the genuineness of a report was accepted by UM, I would expect UM to delete, rather than simply flag the offending advertisement. But what is UM to do if the complainant is relatively unknown to UM? Is it fair and reasonable to expect them to conduct, possibly quite difficult, enquiries to establish the bona fids, or otherwise, of the advertiser. My answer to that question is 'No'. However, acceptance or refusal of an, unpaid, advertisement is at the sole discretion of UM; equally UM can exercise its right to delete an existing advertisement, without any obligation to provide justification, or explanation, for its action. So UM has a completely free hand, in that regard.
I have closely followed the of Classified Advertisements, and certainly it is clear there are some active 'businesses' regularly marketing their wares. If my interpretation of UM's rules governing free advertisings is correct, this is a service available ONLY for the use of members. Perhaps the extent to which this restriction is being enforced, or circumvented by the unscrupulous IS most certainly an area which can and should be studied carefully by UM and, where necessary, appropriate changes made to outwit them. Unfortunately, I foresee no prospect of any major improvement in the near future.
So the two best pieces of advice I can offer gentlemen such as yourself, have been around longer than me, and yet are more relevant to-day than ever before.
i.e. If it looks or sounds too good to be true, it almost certainly is.
Caveat emptor = Purchaser beware.Literal meaning is that you buy, and accept that you buy, entirely
at your own risk.



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Re: classifieds

Post by felixcat » February 23, 2018, 7:45 pm

OK, felixcat, is speaking...
You cannot allow a "buttom" to weed out the bad ones. Because the "haters' of them will Buttom you until only "they" control the "buttons". (This is what the Liberals want to do with social media, "buttom" the ones who do not agree with "them".) Unless, you show who "buttomed" it and after a time, you will see the results.(maybe a manopoly of the results)
As with other websites, you should have 30 days min, and 45 days max, then it expires. Done.

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Re: classifieds

Post by panick » February 23, 2018, 11:25 pm

Yo "Taffy!"
After 11 years here, can't you find more interesting things to do apart from complain about U.map classifieds and Donald Trump?
Seems a bit of a strange lifestyle for a Welshman here in Thailand ......
Chill out and relax a bit . After all, this is the Land of Smiles!
Bring back Saint

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Re: classifieds

Post by dragonz » February 24, 2018, 10:02 am

panick wrote:
February 23, 2018, 11:25 pm
Yo "Taffy!"
After 11 years here, can't you find more interesting things to do apart from complain about U.map classifieds and Donald Trump?
Seems a bit of a strange lifestyle for a Welshman here in Thailand ......
Chill out and relax a bit . After all, this is the Land of Smiles!
Nah you misunderstand me .Never ever complained about donald trump or any politician . What i dislike is people like qwerty backwards and the haters , black lives matter, safe spaces , and me ,feminism ,politically correctness , stopping free speech tranny toilets ,that are basically destroying every western country slowly bit by bit . YOU need to care and complain about that as it is changing life in uk , usa and a few more western european countries and is one reason i left my country.
Classifieds no , i do not want to see people from this forum scammed as i care a little bit about people and hate scammers which are now reaching epidemic proportions in thailand as it is so easy .Just read the thai news . the thai police are catching hundreds of fraudsters every week and you can bet there is a lot more they do not catch..
I just think that udon map could do a little more to protect against scammers and the fact i have pointed out scammers ads to them but they are still on there say it all.
Classifieds are not important to me but if you get scammed you will know how frustrated and bad you will feel . I will now never buy anything from udon map classifieds and advise others to be carefull
Look forward to the rugby tonight , come on the jocks :)

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Re: classifieds

Post by jimjay » February 24, 2018, 10:44 am

dragonz wrote:
February 24, 2018, 10:02 am
come on the jocks :)
says it all. \:D/

I wonder if this is the same user who's actually part Thai.

you must have got scammed.

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Re: classifieds

Post by dragonz » February 24, 2018, 3:52 pm

jimjay wrote:
February 24, 2018, 10:44 am
dragonz wrote:
February 24, 2018, 10:02 am
come on the jocks :)
says it all. \:D/

I wonder if this is the same user who's actually part Thai.

you must have got scammed.
do not understand your post ??

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Re: classifieds

Post by dragonz » February 25, 2018, 3:48 pm

FORUM A meeting or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.
Not sure why i am being criticised and lambasted for posting innocent posts on a forum ?
Panick you are telling to stop complaining and find something better to do when you have posted 1386 posts to my 47 . The irony is you are complaining about me . why? What have i done wrong ?
This is why not many people post on here any more .
Jimjay you donkey why am i half thai ? What says it all ? If you could read you would know i have been scammed .
Can anyone tell me how to delete my profile . I cannot find anything .
What a forum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: classifieds

Post by felixcat » February 25, 2018, 4:37 pm

dragonz, Are you trying to hurt these peoples brains? (hehe) They were probably born stupid.
jimjay is quite a characator, ..he used to attack me, until he knew I was smarter than him.
Panick, well, he's another problem...seems he has a thyroid problem.....of sorts....
"JIMJAY you Donkey!" Thats funny!!!!
You know what a Donkey is in spanish? How about "I'm a Macho, Macho Man". It means "donkey" or ass.
Did you just say JIMJAY is a a@@? OK, If not, I will say it, "Jimjay" you are a "donkey".
There is some hope on Craigslist, some lady in Udon is selling shoes, ect, cheap, and will meet you around Big C. Just bought a pair of hiking boots for 400tb, like new. So that seems to be real.
Then you got the others....Contact me @ Whats App...or the other: Contact me @ 900,800-1234 to discuss payments, or "I want this item, let me know soon, I will pay all postage"
Scams, scams...
dragonz, don't be so mean to these 'haters" here...they just need attention..I want to offer all of them a day where they can just walk around a big field and shout, "I am smart", I am smart". All day! I will pay for the field, and water...we don't want them to die, right?
So speakers..500tb
Field rent..1000tb
Water...500 tb
I can do this for 2,000tb

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Re: classifieds

Post by jimjay » February 25, 2018, 5:11 pm

dragonz wrote:
February 25, 2018, 3:48 pm
Jimjay you donkey why am i half thai ? What says it all ? If you could read you would know i have been scammed .
Can anyone tell me how to delete my profile . I cannot find anything .
What a forum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZNOGARD BACKWARDS CALM DOWN LOL.

Here is my best approximation of what goes on here on some of the less stable threads:



Is that you in there with the stick?

Am pretty sure UM vets posts and definitely takes down suspect ones.

Summary:

All UM's problems can be solved by just tossing in a few bananas when things get edgy. :D

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Re: classifieds

Post by papafarang » February 25, 2018, 7:12 pm

you advertise something, ten replies and calls and not one follow up, why would I keep an ad going for 5 years , because after wasting my time with tyre kickers that couldn't be bothered to turn up or reply I just couldn't be bothered .
the best bet would be drop ads after 30 days
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Re: classifieds

Post by glalt » February 25, 2018, 8:22 pm

I am in agreement with the ads self cancelling after 30 days with the option to renew. It's quite foolish to let these ads show for months and years. Depending on the sellers marking their ad as sold often doesn't happen.

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Re: classifieds

Post by felixcat » February 25, 2018, 11:52 pm

OK, Guys..its broke right? So lets fix it??? Huh?
Post what you want to sell or what you want to buy......
lets lift UDMap classifieds out of the dust and get it going again.
"John" bought my Camry and likes it. My Mazda pick-up is not for sale any more (we like it more now), my accident motorbike was bought by "Jonny" the guy who got caught with the under age girls. We bought a nice sit-up bench from Tomny Toey, (spelling?) the guy who had the yellow Lambourgenii. "John" closed his wifes "shop" after he found out she could not cook....(funny) and we bought alot of stuff and brought our friends to buy things. my friend bought his large rice cooker and is now serving free meals to homeless girls here in Udon.
You got something you don't need? Post it, someone might need that item.
Looking for something, say what you need.....

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Re: classifieds

Post by corwin » April 1, 2018, 12:52 am

dragonz has to be a american the clown just wrote scam on a ad that i posted to sell a bike. like he knows everything. your new to this form just like me and all your doing is stiring the pot every where you go by the looks of it. why dont you just shut up.

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Re: classifieds

Post by felixcat » April 2, 2018, 11:30 pm

corwin, please relax, my friend. Who gave you "eyes to see"?
They might label you as a 'cONSPIRAcY NUT".
wHY, just look at alphonso47114, he wants to buy a "cheap" car or truck every month, for his wife, then he has a car to sell every month, for a higher price. But I am just a stupid guy....................

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Re: classifieds

Post by corwin » April 3, 2018, 4:26 pm

hey felixcat. my point was he basically ruined my add for a kawasaki Z300 i am trying to sell. started calling me a scammer and pretty much basically a liar. so what gave him the right to do that. does he know the ins and outs of my life.and who gave him eyes to see it that way. the moderators have since removed his post from my add but damage has been done. if he really though it was a scam why didn't he call the number to prove it and then he could have called me a scammer. but i would have brought the bike for him to see with his own eyes but no he just kept pushing without proof

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Re: classifieds

Post by dragonz » April 6, 2018, 2:29 pm

corwin wrote:
April 3, 2018, 4:26 pm
hey felixcat. my point was he basically ruined my add for a kawasaki Z300 i am trying to sell. started calling me a scammer and pretty much basically a liar. so what gave him the right to do that. does he know the ins and outs of my life.and who gave him eyes to see it that way. the moderators have since removed his post from my add but damage has been done. if he really though it was a scam why didn't he call the number to prove it and then he could have called me a scammer. but i would have brought the bike for him to see with his own eyes but no he just kept pushing without proof
Hi corwin . sorry you think i damaged your add and stopped your sale but the fact is you did it yourself . You registered with udon map expat forum just to sell your bike and to me should not be allowed . I had to have 15 censored posts before i could post and pm but you are able to join and instantly put up an ad !!!!!????
Your phone number did not work as i have hide my id on my phone and tried skype which does not leave a number and got number unavailable everytime except when i used a landline it rung but no answer .Red flag to me as i know scammers must get your phone number.
There are 5 criteria to me and sellers have to have the first 4 to sell and this should be for everybody
1 price
2 age of item
3 location of item
4 good photos of item
5 if near new a good reason for selling
Your ad had number one, but number 2 you gave the impression it was quite new with only 1300kms when in fact you later stated in reply to my deleted post it was in fact 15 months old .
number 3 no location when there are people registering on here to sell things from pattaya , bangkok , chiang mai etc it is important to know where the bike is.
Number 4 , your photos not to bad but why go on your knees behind the bike to take a photo . why not go the opposite side with the light behind you and take a good standing side photo ?One from the front a long way away , why ?Leads me to believe that they are not your photos and you got them from a website. Look at the photo of the honda forza ot fuzzy kens . That is a photo of a bike for sale not yours.
I am still not convinced you are legit and that is my perogative . If i see an ad on here that i am interested in but think it is suspect i will say no matter what udon map thinks . If y6ou want to sell something stop treating buyer like you are doing them a favour letting them buy your item and give the full info in you ad

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Re: classifieds

Post by Udon Map » April 6, 2018, 6:27 pm

dragonz wrote:
April 6, 2018, 2:29 pm
Hi corwin . sorry you think i damaged your add and stopped your sale but the fact is you did it yourself.
Dragonz, as I have said repeatedly in the past, the Classifieds are not a place to debate the reasonableness or accuracy of someone else's listing. People are free to describe and price their items any way that they want. We do remove fraudulent ads, such as cars allegedly for sale in California, etc. But if someone wants to ask 3.6 million baht for his 5+ year old Hilux Revo, he can do that. If he has trouble finding a buyer at that price, he may choose to lower it after a time. Similarly, if someone is a buyer at that price, that's his choice and he's free to purchase at whatever price he wants. Udon Map does not police classified ads to ensure that the items for sale are "fairly" priced.

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Re: classifieds

Post by corwin » April 6, 2018, 8:24 pm

i call you a liar then because no way you tried the number because its legit. photos not much i can do with size limit on photo i put email as part of your previous complaint so why no email then i do have better photos just could not make the file size small enough for the site. sorry if i dont want to put my address up there and have people driving past my house like you. and your criteria thats your opinion you are not the owner or moderator of this site. and well you know where you can take your perogative. yes i did just register to this site but its not first time i have been looking on here and i fear i am done with it now because of people like you

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