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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » April 27, 2009, 10:00 am

Lee, what you recommended was exactly what I had in mind, thanks. :D I must come and check it out! :D

I was just trying to avoid posters recommending full size floor standing cookers and the like, as I only want something I can stand on the work top. I don't plan to cook turkeys. ;)



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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by lee » April 27, 2009, 10:14 am

The only place I found that sold convection type microwave ovens was Robinsons, they had large selection to choose from. Home Pro stocks a couple of lower end models. Tesco's & Big C stocked only the standard type. There is also a large electronic appliance store (Nano Square) between the fountain circle and clock circle that's worth checking out.

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by BobHelm » June 1, 2009, 9:46 am

RJ I do not know if you have bought yet, but I purchased one yesterday.
I have been convinced by a fellow poster (thank you Morti :D ) that I should do more home cooking. In order to do that, for the type of things I want to do -cauliflower cheese being high on that list- I really need an oven.
I did some grocery shopping yesterday and because it was Sunday & I knew the 'Big 3' would be packed out I went to Tang Ngee Soon as even when busy they do NOT make you queue up to pay.
While they were swiping & re-loading my trolley I strolled across to their electrical goods section - which is after the checkouts.
I am now the proud owner of a House Worth electric oven. 26 litre capacity, 1600 Watt. Cooker & Grill settlings, heat from 50 to 250 degrees C, with 60 minute timer. It is metal construction, with a glass door.
Have attached a couple of photos to give you an idea - it is slightly bigger than my microwave, but not significantly. The other thing I liked was that they actually opened the box for me, let me examine it & filled out the warranty card as well....
Oh, price, 1,969 baht. They did have the far smaller oven there as well for just over 900 baht.
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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » June 1, 2009, 12:08 pm

Bob, Thank you for that info/update. :D

I think I saw those models in Index recently,about 1990 baht. They had a heating element at the top and bottom? They look to be what I had in mind.

I would appreciate your views/a revised update in the light of experience, - after you have used a few times. ;) :D

Thanks

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by BobHelm » June 1, 2009, 12:14 pm

arjay wrote:They had a heating element at the top and bottom? They look to be what I had in mind.Thanks
Yes RJ, I think if you select the "grill" setting then only the top one comes on, if you select the "oven" setting then both kick in...

Give me a couple of days & I will report back on results...... :D :D TG is eager for me to show her how to make a sponge cake (rather my own fault as I have told her many times that to get a decent piece of cake is not easy over here :D )so I guess that will be the first thing produced!! :shock:

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by Aardvark » June 1, 2009, 2:29 pm

And don't forget to post your Recipe for Cauliflower Cheese Bob (incase it's better than mine) :D :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » June 1, 2009, 4:25 pm

Bob Helm wrote:Give me a couple of days & I will report back on results...... :D :D TG is eager for me to show her how to make a sponge cake (rather my own fault as I have told her many times that to get a decent piece of cake is not easy over here :D )so I guess that will be the first thing produced!! :shock:
Bob, if you need any help sampling the finished products, or any impartial opinions, let me know. ;) :lol:

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » June 5, 2009, 4:12 pm

Bob, can I grill you about your new oven? Is it hot stuff, or a flash in the pan?

How is it shaping up in the light of experience? Is it cooking up a storm? If so, I might might go out and buy one at the weekend. :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by BobHelm » June 5, 2009, 5:11 pm

I have only done a couple of casseroles & a shepherds pie so far RJ. If Chern Chim get some lamb chops in then that will certainly be the next thing on the cards. The cake hasn't materialised yet as I was a little disappointed in the quality of the flour I purchased. I must get into either Chern Chim or Tops who I understand both stock quality I would be happier with. I also bought it to have a go at a nice roast pork on a Sunday but since I have had it I have been out & about on a Sunday - as I am this Sunday as well.

So far I am very happy with it. It is large enough that you could cook a fair sized family meal in it and it certainly gets to the heat it says on the dial. I will certainly pre-heat it for a sponge though. The fact that you can use as a grill also looks a good idea - although I haven't used that facility yet.

All in all happy so far with what I have attempted, but that might be not quite enough to give it a full thumbs up yet!! :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by tamada » June 16, 2009, 2:48 pm

After taking some advice on oversized toaster-like ovens, I was told that what I need for the odd pot roast, biscuits, cookies and pizza is a convection oven so while I was shopping for housewares in Pattaya, I picked up a Imarflex IB-707G 1500W convection oven. Back home now and I just turned out my first batch of southwest breakfast biscuits this morning. Took 20 minutes and they were perfect. I will be making some oatmeal cookies for my boy later today and maybe get the fixin's together for a Sunday roast. I have asked for the recipe from home for an excellent Belgian loaf that I used to bake regularly in Houston. I hope I can get seedless sultanas and raisins in town!

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by BobHelm » June 16, 2009, 2:56 pm

tamada, how much was the oven???
I spotted the same model as mine in Robinson's electrical yesterday - 500 baht dearer than I paid.. :shock:
Can certainly buy a great variety of different makes of raisins in Carrefour. I didn't spot any sultanas (but they did have "sun bleached raisins" - not sure what the difference is. Also they have a great many more different 'dried' fruits (cranberries, grapes etc.) which you could probably substitute.

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » June 16, 2009, 3:47 pm

Bob, I recently purchased the exact same oven as you, from Index, 1990 baht, less a percent or two discount for being a Joy cardholder. Oh and 2 free cups of coffee.

I now have to expand my cooking skills and knowledge to utilise it effectively. So far I have heated a couple of pies in it (and managed to burn them!! :roll: :lol: ).

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by 747man » June 16, 2009, 5:53 pm

Arjay, So We will be seeing LESS of you in BBB 's ???? :lol: :lol:

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by tamada » June 16, 2009, 7:38 pm

BobHelm wrote:tamada, how much was the oven???
I spotted the same model as mine in Robinson's electrical yesterday - 500 baht dearer than I paid.. :shock:
Can certainly buy a great variety of different makes of raisins in Carrefour. I didn't spot any sultanas (but they did have "sun bleached raisins" - not sure what the difference is. Also they have a great many more different 'dried' fruits (cranberries, grapes etc.) which you could probably substitute.
Bob, it cost B2750 at HomePro (Pattaya). There was some cheaper ones in Carrefour (Pattaya) made by Otto but the lid wasn't sealing properly so passed on that.

I found some raisins at Tops, including California golden ones which will pass for sultanas in the loaf. They also had small aluminium loaf tins there so I can bake a couple of small ones instead of one big one.

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by aznyron » June 16, 2009, 8:41 pm

JMO I would think these ovens are for just heating up left overs which IMO is better than nuke them
I would assume it to small to cook meals for a small family but I read arjay is baking pies in his
so I guess my assumption is wrong

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by papaguido » June 16, 2009, 9:28 pm

tamada wrote:After taking some advice on oversized toaster-like ovens, I was told that what I need for the odd pot roast, biscuits, cookies and pizza is a convection oven so while I was shopping for housewares in Pattaya, I picked up a Imarflex IB-707G 1500W convection oven. Back home now and I just turned out my first batch of southwest breakfast biscuits this morning. Took 20 minutes and they were perfect. I will be making some oatmeal cookies for my boy later today and maybe get the fixin's together for a Sunday roast. I have asked for the recipe from home for an excellent Belgian loaf that I used to bake regularly in Houston. I hope I can get seedless sultanas and raisins in town!
Tamada,

Is this the one...

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I've them around, but didn't know they were convention. I remember seeing infomercials back in the US and often thought of getting one. Let me know how you make out with the cookies, that will be the deciding factor for me :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by arjay » June 16, 2009, 10:18 pm

I would assume it too small to cook meals for a small family but I read arjay is baking pies in his
so I guess my assumption is wrong
Ron, so far I have only been heating up pies, - from Beer Belly Billy's, - but it is quite capable and big enough to cook pies in, or main meals, or a chicken, though not a turkey.

I just need a few simple recipes guys!! :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by BobHelm » June 17, 2009, 6:13 pm

It certainly is not a toy Ron - :D
Yes a pie would certainly be possible in one - I have not attempted that (as my pastry making skills always left a lot to be desired) but Casseroles & Shepherds/Cottage pies turn out well.
The grill part of it works well too - nice pork chops out of it & even nicer Lamb Chops soon as I can get to Chern Chims... :D
I haven't tried a full Sunday lunch yet, but that is more because I have been out & about rather than thinking it would not manage to do one..
RJ you might want to have a look here..
http://uktv.co.uk/food/recipe/aid/592951
Simple recipes with good instructions that work I have found before. :D

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by tamada » June 18, 2009, 7:44 am

papaguido wrote:
tamada wrote:After taking some advice on oversized toaster-like ovens, I was told that what I need for the odd pot roast, biscuits, cookies and pizza is a convection oven so while I was shopping for housewares in Pattaya, I picked up a Imarflex IB-707G 1500W convection oven. Back home now and I just turned out my first batch of southwest breakfast biscuits this morning. Took 20 minutes and they were perfect. I will be making some oatmeal cookies for my boy later today and maybe get the fixin's together for a Sunday roast. I have asked for the recipe from home for an excellent Belgian loaf that I used to bake regularly in Houston. I hope I can get seedless sultanas and raisins in town!
Tamada,

Is this the one...

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I've them around, but didn't know they were convention. I remember seeing infomercials back in the US and often thought of getting one. Let me know how you make out with the cookies, that will be the deciding factor for me :D
Yup, that's the weird looking thing. It's CONVECTION not convention; got that fan inside the lid to move the super-hot coooking air around. After a bit of trial and error with baking temps and times (and some seriously black cookies), I think I have the bugger sussed out. Pretty good rule of thumb is reduce baking temps by 25 deg and when doing meats, leave the temp the same as a conventional oven but reduce cook time by around 25%. The biggest selection of these ovens was in Pattaya Carrefour but not sure what they stock here or if anyone else has them.

I want to try a lasagna but why oh why is there NO ricotta cheese in LOS.... or our bit anyway? There's an Italian owned dairy product manufacturer called Del Casaro with a factory in Hua Hin that supplies ricotta and other cheeses to the Bangkok specialty food stores. Here's the link so Jon & Paul at Cherm Chim can get onto it... or maybe they have already?

http://www.delcasaro.com/

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Re: Conventional type oven

Post by aznyron » June 18, 2009, 8:49 am

Tamada I look at that web site sadly it not in UDON I would spend my pension every month in there

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