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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2019, 7:02 am

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David Marcus writes:
The jobs were already coming, so why not take the opportunity to stick your finger in the eye of the big, mean, nasty corporation? Today, all that changed. She fished what she wished and Amazon decided not to bring tens of thousands of jobs to New York City after all. Today, her effective opposition to the deal is a much different story, one in which she has to defend creating less opportunity for working New Yorkers.
Oc-Co Loco tried to score political points for socialism with no intention to kill off thousands of jobs. But she didn't anticipate other socialists joining the fight and creating a political firestorm against Amazon. Well, they killed the deal, and she helped kill 25,000 jobs that her voters wanted.

Even Governor Cuomo of NY is blaming her.

This is why I always say that LIBs are the undisputed Champions of Unintended Consequences.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 8:07 am

Other information of Amazon withdrawing

"But local opposition was fervent from the beginning. Lawmakers resented being excluded from negotiations for the deal, and decried the $3 billion in government subsidies offered to a company run by Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest man, while the city itself is facing budget cuts. Community groups feared rising rents in the neighborhood would push out long-time residents, and that the influx of workers would strain an already overburdened subway system."

If Amazon wants to employ another 25,000 it wont be in New York just another place like Northern Virginia, Nashville, Toronto where ever
BUT again the 25,000 jobs are not lost or killed as some report

So why so much talk

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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2019, 8:27 am

Doodoo wrote:
February 16, 2019, 8:07 am
Other information of Amazon withdrawing

"But local opposition was fervent from the beginning. Lawmakers resented being excluded from negotiations for the deal, and decried the $3 billion in government subsidies offered to a company run by Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest man, while the city itself is facing budget cuts. Community groups feared rising rents in the neighborhood would push out long-time residents, and that the influx of workers would strain an already overburdened subway system."

If Amazon wants to employ another 25,000 it wont be in New York just another place like Northern Virginia, Nashville, Toronto where ever
BUT again the 25,000 jobs are not lost or killed as some report

So why so much talk
You left out the last paragraph of your Yahoo News article:
With several polls showing that a majority of New Yorkers favored Amazon’s arrival, de Blasio had previously suggested that those officials could face their own backlash come the next elections. Indeed, many of the people who reacted to Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet expressed anger.
The same article from which you selectively quoted. GUILTY.

25,000 jobs lost to the NYC area. THAT is why so much talk, and the criticism is coming from other Democrats in NY who recognized the benefit of all of those jobs that are going elsewhere. Those 25,000 gainfully employed people buy things and pay state sales taxes when they buy things. That is lost revenue for the state and lost revenue for every merchant where those 25,000 would shop.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

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Source: CNBC Interview
“They came in, they proudly, unabashedly told us they wanted to work with ICE to deport undocumented immigrants in this country.”
- Senator Michael Gianaris

"They" is Amazon.

So we have some local activists and Democrat members of Congress wanting Amazon to subvert the federal immigration law to win activist's approval for the new Amazon facility.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 10:56 am

LS and the same issue will surface about Aliens in Nashville, North Virginia etc not just New York

Oh but if the Headquarters are moved to Toronto Ontario Canada I don't think you will hear all the belly whining about Illegal Aliens as they don't get that far north Too Cold

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Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney, from the district where Amazon was going to build their new facility. She ain't happy AT ALL. She outlines all the benefits that Amazon was going to add to the community and points out that 25,000 jobs was the MINIMUM.

She begs the question: 'We used to protest wars, and now we protest jobs?!?'

Dems like Oc-Co Loco are helping Trump, and even other Dems are starting to realize it.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

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MSNBC rakes Oc-Co Loco over the coals. They ripped her a new one.

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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 11:37 am

Now the others, Town Cities in the US who have $3 Billion lying around can give Amazon a call and get 25,000 jobs for their hometown. There a celebration rather than condemning people


As for New York and all the Senators and Governor and 81% or whatever and whoever else had the lollipop taken away forget it and move on as you have had your 15 minutes on CNBC, FOX, Huffington etc

Why is no one from Amazon getting lambasted for pulling out?

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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2019, 2:25 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 16, 2019, 11:37 am
Now the others, Town Cities in the US who have $3 Billion lying around can give Amazon a call and get 25,000 jobs for their hometown. There a celebration rather than condemning people


As for New York and all the Senators and Governor and 81% or whatever and whoever else had the lollipop taken away forget it and move on as you have had your 15 minutes on CNBC, FOX, Huffington etc

Why is no one from Amazon getting lambasted for pulling out?
Your comments indicate that you really don't understand what is going on with this and the criticism that has been laid at the feet of Democrat members of Congress who protested Amazon. I've provided enough information and sources -- even your own source (again) -- that explains why it is a big deal.

You also didn't watch the video (or at least understand what was said by the congresswoman) where all of the benefits were outlined (including about $27 Billion in tax revenue over ten years) for the State of New York, which is experiencing a severe shortfall in tax revenue.

Oc-Co Loco may have done her socialist movement a great favor -- big victory against a big corporation, but she also defeated New Yorkers who want a job (or better job). It didn't help New Yorkers, and she is a congresswoman from New York.

Have a great weekend, Mr. Doodoo.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 3:28 pm

So in the end LS someone else somewhere else will reap the benefits just not New York as of now. They will survive as they have for the past 350 years
As for New Yorkers or anyone else who are feeling financial hardship, MOVE and find a job, don't sit there expecting someone to come to your door and say Oh we have been looking for someone just like you
And as "for the State of New York, which is experiencing a severe shortfall in tax revenue." the other side of the coin is that they are spending too much and need to cut. I know in my situation if I aint got it I cant spend it and have to maybe suffer a bit
The answer is to stop blaming someone else and look at oneself and say what can I do. Quit spitting the dummy out and get on with it

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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2019, 3:43 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 16, 2019, 3:28 pm
So in the end LS someone else somewhere else will reap the benefits just not New York as of now. They will survive as they have for the past 350 years
As for New Yorkers or anyone else who are feeling financial hardship, MOVE and find a job, don't sit there expecting someone to come to your door and say Oh we have been looking for someone just like you
And as "for the State of New York, which is experiencing a severe shortfall in tax revenue." the other side of the coin is that they are spending too much and need to cut. I know in my situation if I aint got it I cant spend it and have to maybe suffer a bit
The answer is to stop blaming someone else and look at oneself and say what can I do. Quit spitting the dummy out and get on with it
Believe it or not, I agree 99% with what you have posted, but it's a straw man. None of it has anything to do with why Oc-Co Loco is being criticized.

Have a great weekend.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 3:56 pm

I don't comment on the woman because she single handedly didn't put this deal into turmoil and if she did then maybe she should be the President if she had all that power and persuassion

Remember Amazon had a BIG Hand in this and no one has said anything about them

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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2019, 7:46 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 16, 2019, 3:56 pm
I don't comment on the woman because she single handedly didn't put this deal into turmoil and if she did then maybe she should be the President if she had all that power and persuassion

Remember Amazon had a BIG Hand in this and no one has said anything about them
No one said she did it alone. No one gave Amazon a pass. Have you even been reading this thread?
Oc-Co Loco tried to score political points for socialism with no intention to kill off thousands of jobs. But she didn't anticipate other socialists joining the fight and creating a political firestorm against Amazon.
What this lamebrain did was equivalent to a corporate employee contributing to wrecking a deal for the corporation and causing customers to lose money and opportunities. She works for the people in her district in NYC. She not only didn't act in their best interest -- or the state's best interest -- but she celebrated the result. All of that is on her.
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Re: Democrats, Republicans and Elections

Post by Doodoo » February 16, 2019, 8:40 pm

No one said she did it alone. No one gave Amazon a pass. Have you even been reading this thread?

Give me a break You expect someone to read all the crap that has been posted? Well I haven't as the ones I have reported on were not reported correctly in full

Do you think Donald reads all? I hope not
I had a Vice President of the company I worked for, say to a division you send me what every quarter a 100 page report? They said oh yes 2 -3 people each quarter work on it. He in turn said I don't want you to give me this I need a 2-3 page report so your (Engineers) are engineering and not reporting

I am not giving nor is anyone else giving Amazon a pass but no one has gone after them to say why are you withdrawing from the deal affecting 25000 jobs

As I said before I can give you your own "Lone Star Stuff' so we don't have to jump from subject to subject

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