Well, 3 months on, and the only progress so far is a pound now 20% down on the beginning of the year ......

Leaving will not miraculously solve anything. People blame the decline in the fishing industry on the EU, but the reality is that the fishing industry peaked over 100 years ago - and most other countries in Europe have had catches decline by a much greater amount than the UK. What helped kill the fisheries was industrial fishing for fishmeal in the North sea.

It now turns out that right before he turned his coat, BoJo wrote that EU membership was a “boon for the world and for Europe.”
Who needs enemies with friends like that?

Rick
Do not disagree with your comment on industrial fishing, but why should it be Spanish, French boats that are allowed to do it rather than UK boats. We did not strip the Med, Brittany coastlines they did, and then were allowed to come into our waters on a quota basis to kill off the North Sea. As for the UK Pound decline by 20%, who apart from the City spivs and bookies can fathom that one out. We are still at least 2.5 years away from any real changes, just money grabbing as usual.

Yesterday the High Court ruled that the Prime Minister alone cannot trigger article 50 & start the Brexit negotiations.
The court ruled that only Parliament is authorised to do this - obviously after a discussion on the matter, resulting in an Act of Parliament.

The Government will appeal the decision to the Supreme Court which will take place next month.

If the ruling is upheld it will completely unravel the current Government's policy.
That is based on the ability to negotiate & conclude an agreement based on what the EU offers.
An Act of Parliament would greatly restrict the areas of negotiation as it would set out a 'non-negotiable' bottom line.

If the Supreme Court uphold the High Court decision then it could easily lead to a General Election based largely on what Brexit actually means,.
That would undoubtedly actually split the vote of the former Brexiters, between the Hard Brexit & Soft Brexit factions that have developed since the referendum.

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.....

Boris Johnson promised yesterday to make a ‘Titanic success’ of Brexit.

• http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/bo ... ic-success

JimboPSM wrote:Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.....

Boris Johnson promised yesterday to make a ‘Titanic success’ of Brexit.

• http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/bo ... ic-success

He's obviously trying for another shot at "Have I got News for you"

BobHelm wrote:Yesterday the High Court ruled that the Prime Minister alone cannot trigger article 50 & start the Brexit negotiations.
The court ruled that only Parliament is authorised to do this - obviously after a discussion on the matter, resulting in an Act of Parliament.

The Government will appeal the decision to the Supreme Court which will take place next month.

If the ruling is upheld it will completely unravel the current Government's policy.
That is based on the ability to negotiate & conclude an agreement based on what the EU offers.
An Act of Parliament would greatly restrict the areas of negotiation as it would set out a 'non-negotiable' bottom line.

If the Supreme Court uphold the High Court decision then it could easily lead to a General Election based largely on what Brexit actually means,.
That would undoubtedly actually split the vote of the former Brexiters, between the Hard Brexit & Soft Brexit factions that have developed since the referendum.

Slightly more than a fly in the oitment ... a huge big spanner in the works as Brexit just got a whole lot more complicated.,

Maybe the uk should change its currency from the pound to the yoyo.can I have a pint please,yes sir that'll be 25 yoyos.wait minute it was only 20 yeasterday.ah but tomorrow some politician will open their big mouths and it'll be 30 yoyos.barman can you make that a half pint please....I didn't think the titanic was much of a success.bungle johnsons finest hour.

Not much of a guess by Boris really, the pound has already sunk without trace just like the Titanic

And the Good ship UK has been rudderless and run by a bunch of pirates for years

The European Parliament is to consider a plan that would allow British citizens to opt-in and keep their European Union citizenship – and its associated benefits – once the UK leaves the EU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 05196.html

parrot wrote:Coups and Thailand go together like sticky rice and papaya salad. Every time there is one, I try to visualize someone like Colin Powell riding atop a Bradley tank, crashing the White House gates, and announcing 'I'm in charge now". Try as I may, I never get a clear high definition picture of the event in my mind.
Now that the Brexit folks have in effect staged their own coup.......a much more modern and potentially more traumatic style of coup......and Donald Trump sitting in the wings, I'll have to reexamine my idea of a coup in the US. I'd like to think it'll never happen......but then, I never expected the vote in the UK to turn out as it did........and a lot of very intelligent people in the US never expected Trump to get this far.

Well, I never thought I'd say it, but all of a sudden, the idea of someone like a more modern Colin Powell riding atop a Bradley tank, crashing the White House gates, doesn't seem so farfetched. I doubt anyone with any historical reference knows what's really in store in DC these days. Certainly interesting times ahead!

Well, at least Trump has a plan, even if half of it is nuts. UK government 6 months on still doesn't have one at all.

David Cameron did not have a plan. Teresa May does. We are leaving Europe. No single market, no Customs Union and no more being told what to do by foreigners. Those of us who are proud of the UK will make it a success. The whingers will just whinge.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

Is it so easy?

Why Has Israeli Spy Shai Masot Not Been Expelled?
8 Jan, 2017

There is no starker proof of the golden chains in which Israel has entangled the British political class, than the incredible fact that “diplomat” Shai Masot has not been expelled for secretly conspiring to influence British politics by attacking Britain’s Deputy Foreign Minister, suggesting that he might be brought down by “a little scandal”. It is incredible by any normal standards of diplomatic behaviour that immediate action was not taken against Masot for actions which when revealed any professional diplomat would normally expect to result in being “PNG’d” – declared persona non grata.

Obama has just expelled 35 Russian diplomats for precisely the same offence, with the exception that in the Russian case there is absolutely zero hard evidence, whereas in the Masot case there is irrefutable evidence on which to act.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

can123 wrote:David Cameron did not have a plan. Teresa May does. We are leaving Europe. No single market, no Customs Union and no more being told what to do by foreigners. Those of us who are proud of the UK will make it a success. The whingers will just whinge.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

"no more being told what to do by foreigners." Is it so easy? I don't think they totally tell you what to do, but know they often have a way of twisting arms and greasing palms in order to meddle with your affairs and get what they want, even when it's not in the best interest of your nation and its people. And don't forget George Soros....

Why Has Israeli Spy Shai Masot Not Been Expelled?
8 Jan, 2017

There is no starker proof of the golden chains in which Israel has entangled the British political class, than the incredible fact that “diplomat” Shai Masot has not been expelled for secretly conspiring to influence British politics by attacking Britain’s Deputy Foreign Minister, suggesting that he might be brought down by “a little scandal”. It is incredible by any normal standards of diplomatic behaviour that immediate action was not taken against Masot for actions which when revealed any professional diplomat would normally expect to result in being “PNG’d” – declared persona non grata.

Obama has just expelled 35 Russian diplomats for precisely the same offence, with the exception that in the Russian case there is absolutely zero hard evidence, whereas in the Masot case there is irrefutable evidence on which to act.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

Brexit: Supreme Court says Parliament must give Article 50 go-ahead

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38720320

Not that it will make any difference to the end result.
However I am puzzled as to why the Government ever wanted to go down the non democratic 'Royal Prerogative' route in the first place.
It rather strikes the note that Brexit will be whatever May & her hangers on want it to be - irrespective of what might be best for Britain.

The crucial part of the entire decision is probably that only the Parliament in Westminster needs to approve the move towards enacting Article 50.
If the Scottish, Irish & Welsh Assemblies had also needed to have ratified the move then that would have really set the cat amongst the pigeons..

"The crucial part of the entire decision is probably that only the Parliament in Westminster needs to approve the move towards enacting Article 50"--BH

Doesn't it go to the other unelected mob after that---The Lords

It is extremely unlikely that the Lords would wish to block the enactment of article 50.
As a non-elected chamber to attempt to stop the result of a National Referendum would be suicidal to their remaining as they are.

If, in a sudden rush towards suicide, they did block the passage of the Bill then May could undoubtedly still introduce the Bill into law under the 1911 Parliament Act as a great deal of the exiting from the EU will be of a financial nature..

Sorry about the faulty link in my last post. Try this. It's the same but the other was'nt fully entered onto the page.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

Why Has Israeli Spy Shai Masot Not Been Expelled? 193
8 Jan, 2017 in Uncategorized by craig

There is no starker proof of the golden chains in which Israel has entangled the British political class, than the incredible fact that “diplomat” Shai Masot has not been expelled for secretly conspiring to influence British politics by attacking Britain’s Deputy Foreign Minister, suggesting that he might be brought down by “a little scandal”. It is incredible by any normal standards of diplomatic behaviour that immediate action was not taken against Masot for actions which when revealed any professional diplomat would normally expect to result in being “PNG’d” – declared persona non grata.

Obama has just expelled 35 Russian diplomats for precisely the same offence, with the exception that in the Russian case there is absolutely zero hard evidence, whereas in the Masot case there is irrefutable evidence on which to act.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... -expelled/

It would appear that more good than harm has come out of the Supreme Court ruling - originally David Davis (the Brexit Minister) had ruled a White Paper out..

Brexit: Theresa May promises White Paper on EU exit plan

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38737967

A White Paper is a non binding document that clearly sets out what the Government plan to do about a situation or how they intend to approach a problem.

As Brexit will probably have an element of negotiation it will not be what definitely will happen but at least it will give the public a better idea of what Britain will look like after the break & allow some impacted companies to make plans of their own..

It will also, maybe to some individual's detriment , give a measure of just how successful any negotiations are..