joudon wrote: ↑

November 17, 2017, 9:20 am

Obviously there is no common ground of opinion between the leavers and the remainers.
The referendum bill was approved overwhelmingly in Parliament. and the simple question was compiled by the remain lobby.
As we all know the majority voted leave, and despite the vicious insults hurled at the vote leave lobby,under the rules set out before the vote, the majority decision stands.
After the initial drop in the value of the pound, it quickly made a partial recovery, only to have the recovery reversed by Carneys UNBELIEVABLE decision to cut the base rate. It is obvious to many that the decion to cut was taken by an arch remainer, perhaps to try to prove his previously dire warnings on the economy that FAILED to materialise.

Agree.

Carney has been a disgrace and a disaster for the country.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... eans-leave

Project fear has totally failed. Nothing they predicted has come true. With the crying and wailing of the remainders, it seems that these people would rather see Britain fail, than make a success of Brexit.
The difficulties in the negotiations are caused by the belligerence and spitefulness of the EU, and Teresa May lacking a backbone. (Maggie where are you? )
The UK has made generous offers and concessions, only to be met with what? A sneering EU demanding more.
We should tell these parasites, no deal and walk away. Not until the EU realises that we are prepared to walk away will they start real negotiations.

Adhoc wrote: ↑

November 18, 2017, 1:08 pm

Project fear has totally failed. Nothing they predicted has come true. With the crying and wailing of the remainders, it seems that these people would rather see Britain fail, than make a success of Brexit.
The difficulties in the negotiations are caused by the belligerence and spitefulness of the EU, and Teresa May lacking a backbone. (Maggie where are you? )
The UK has made generous offers and concessions, only to be met with what? A sneering EU demanding more.
We should tell these parasites, no deal and walk away. Not until the EU realises that we are prepared to walk away will they start real negotiations.

Nice soap box speech Adhoc and 100% on the money . =D> =D> =D>

Those wishing to remain locked to the un democratic, money wasting EU are in total denial of reality. That reality is that for better or for worse, the UK electorate voted to LEAVE. There was very very little objection anywhere in the UK for holding the referendum, so the result MUST be adhered to. If the referendum had been held earlier, i.e when Blair promised it, then I for one am sure the result would have been to remain, but in reality 'if' in the past tense does not exist so it is up to ALL people to pull in the same direction for the good of the UK, and that means a getting very fair deal or perhaps accepting a 'no' deal.

joudon wrote: ↑

November 19, 2017, 10:32 am

Those wishing to remain locked to the un democratic, money wasting EU are in total denial of reality. That reality is that for better or for worse, the UK electorate voted to LEAVE. There was very very little objection anywhere in the UK for holding the referendum, so the result MUST be adhered to. If the referendum had been held earlier, i.e when Blair promised it, then I for one am sure the result would have been to remain, but in reality 'if' in the past tense does not exist so it is up to ALL people to pull in the same direction for the good of the UK, and that means a getting very fair deal or perhaps accepting a 'no' deal.

Or in the words of Noel Gallagher 'it was put to the people as a vote,the people voted.Thats democracy.F****** get over it'

It seems some want to shoot 48% of the voters. Can someone please tell me what Brexit has actually positively achieved in the last 15 months, apart from strident calls to silence remainers?

You either accept a democratic vote or return to anarchy, which do you prefer.? As a UK voter I reluctantly accepted 3 terms of BLAIR, because he WON.
What has been achieved, well for one the UK electorate knows why the Brussells mafia do not want Brexit. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thet need our CASH TO WASTE.

If being democratic means committing economic suicide and being a supporter of xenophobia, racism and bigotry, then I am decidedly anti-democratic.

JimboPSM wrote: ↑

November 20, 2017, 5:33 pm

If being democratic means committing economic suicide and being a supporter of xenophobia, racism and bigotry, then I am decidedly anti-democratic.

Pathetic post.
Typical remoaner crap.
"economic suicide" - all the evidence points the other way.
"Xenophobia" - i.e wanting your own country to be in control of it's own laws, with it's own courts and parliament being the supreme authority, as opposed to an unelected, corrupt and anti-democratic one having the final say.
"racism" - Having control of your own boarders, deciding who comes in. No-one is saying there should be no immigration, just that it should be controlled.
"bigotry" - thrown in for for good measure probably.
We are not leaving Europe, just the totally corrupt and anti-democratic EUSSR.

There you go.....no need for us Brits to worry in 2018......everything will be fine ......show some pride walking up and down soi Sampan between 2pm-5pm with a can of Archa !

Theresa May: Britons will feel renewed pride in 2018 The next 12 months will allow Britons to feel " renewed confidence and pride" as the country makes progress on Brexit and creating a "stronger and fairer" society, Theresa May said in her new year message.
The Prime Minister said that although Brexit was "crucial", it was "not the limit of our ambitions"
After a difficult 12 months which saw her decision to call a snap election backfire spectacularly, three scandal-hit Cabinet ministers forced to resign and continued unrest within Tory ranks over Europe, Mrs May acknowledged that "any year brings its challenges".

In her message, Mrs May said 2017 had been a "year of progress" for the UK and insisted that the divisions of the European Union referendum were in the past as "most people just want the Government to get on and deliver a good Brexit, and that's exactly what we are doing".
In an apparent reference to her own troubles, Mrs May said: "Of course any year brings its challenges - that is true for each of us personally, as much as for our country and the world.
"But the real test is not whether challenges come; it's how you face them.
"Whether you allow a task to overcome you, or tackle it head on with purpose and resolve."
In an upbeat assessment of the coming year, she said: "I believe 2018 can be a year of renewed confidence and pride in our country.
"A year in which we continue to make good progress towards a successful Brexit deal, an economy that's fit for the future, and a stronger and fairer society for everyone.
"And whatever challenges we may face, I know we will overcome them by standing united as one proud union of nations and people."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 909701.htm

Brexit Party opens up ominous 15-point poll lead over Tories – and receives £200,000 gift from one of their former donors

Nothing ominous, bloody good news, get us out and move on to better things

couldn't we just "shake it all about"

Theresa May's prediction for 2018 (in Zid's post) was spectacularly astray. She's not good at reading the tea leaves. It's a shame there isn't someone else standing out who looks as if he or she could do much better.

I think the Brits need to be careful they don't catch the American disease where your ideological tribe is more important than in the British case being British. That makes having a well functioning government very difficult.

Brexit party may get more EU election votes than Tories and Labour combined – poll

"Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is on course to secure more support at the European elections than the Tories and Labour combined, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage, the poll suggests more than a third of voters will back him on 23 May. It puts his party on 34% of the vote, with less than a fortnight before the election takes place.

The poll suggests support for the Conservatives has collapsed amid the Brexit uncertainty, with Theresa May’s party on just 11%. Labour is a distant second, on 21%. The Lib Dems perform the best of any of the openly anti-Brexit parties, one point ahead of the Tories on 12% of the vote."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... bined-poll

TJ wrote: ↑

May 13, 2019, 6:03 am

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage,

It isn't necessarily support of Farage it is just a lack of any other credible option to replace the Tories.
Sad isn't it?

I have been back in Udon now for 2 weeks after almost 2 months in UK.I believe the support for Farage is very strong from what I have read and heard, and certainly not just a protest because there is no credible alternative. Parliament as a whole, including many vile non entities in the House of Lords, have thwarted the result of a fair referendum, and people are getting very angry. If as it is likely, the Brexit party do very well in the EU elections, that is to say that their % of the vote exceeds the combined vote of the remain parties, i.e Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Change , then it will be the facto 2nd referendum that all the Europhiles have been clamoring for since they were soundly beaten in the referendum in 2016.

karonsteve wrote: ↑

May 13, 2019, 3:37 pm

TJ wrote: ↑

May 13, 2019, 6:03 am

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage,

It isn't necessarily support of Farage it is just a lack of any other credible option to replace the Tories.
Sad isn't it?

You are misreading how angry a huge number of people in the UK are. Farage has launched a new party because the established (establishment) parties have shown over the last 3 years just how out of touch they are with normal people (you know the ones that work, pay taxes etc.) Self indulgent, self serving, public school attending, profession politicians who really don't care about the Country are in for a big wake up call. All of what we call the mainstream parties are now infested by these halfwits.