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Post by ronan01 » February 19, 2015, 9:32 pm

jackspratt wrote:
marjamlew wrote:Was going to post on the joke thread but this shoe might fit for some......
A Romanian arrives in Sydney as a new immigrant to Australia .
He stops the first person he sees walking down the street and says, "Thank you Mr. Australiaman, for letting me come into this country, giving me housing, Income Support, free medical care, and a free education!"
The passerby says, "You are mistaken, I am Egyptian."
The man goes on and encounters another passerby. "Thank you for having such a beautiful country here in Australia ."
The person says, "I not Australian, I am Pakistani."
The new arrival walks further, and the next person he sees he stops, shakes his hand, and says,
"Thank you for wonderful country Australia !"
That person puts up his hand and says, "I am from Afghanistan . I am not Australian."
He finally sees a nice lady and asks,
"Are you an Australia woman?"
She says, "No, I am from Africa ."
Puzzled, he asks her,
"Where are all the Australian?"
The African lady checks her watch and says, "Probably at work."
Doesn't matter which thread it is on lew - bigotry and stereotyping together is never a good look. [-(
Quite so Lew, how dare you attack women, even in humour. Shame on you, go flog yourself with a limp lettuce leaf.



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Post by jackspratt » February 20, 2015, 10:07 am

And one I pretty much agree with. =D>

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Post by GT93 » February 20, 2015, 11:32 am

Yes, good link Aardy.

Not exactly on topic but of some relevance is the World Press Freedom Index:

http://rsf.org/index2014/en-index2014.php

The introduction states:

"The 2014 World Press Freedom Index spotlights the negative impact of conflicts on freedom of information and its protagonists. The ranking of some countries has also been affected by a tendency to interpret national security needs in an overly broad and abusive manner to the detriment of the right to inform and be informed. This trend constitutes a growing threat worldwide and is even endangering freedom of information in countries regarded as democracies."
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Post by noosard » February 20, 2015, 12:08 pm

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Post by bumper » February 20, 2015, 12:29 pm

bignote1 wrote:As a retired cop I thought you would have known. In the UK "Incitement to Racial Hatred" was put into the provisions of the Public Order Act of 1986 as an offense in law. In 2006 The Religious Hatred was passed which regards it as an offense in law to incite hatred against a person on the grounds of their religion.
Why wouldn't decent people (the silent majority) want hatred controlled by law. Hatred has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Retired from California each state has it's own laws. that is the reason I asked where you were from. I saw it progress in my career. Laws are always changing. What the state of the law is today I don't know, When I first started swearing around women and children was against the Law. 415 P.C. Disturbing the Peace. That was changed to language that would cause the average man to fight. Now try to define that one, :lol:

Where does one man freedom stop and the other mans begin. That had not been defined here based on the protests we have seen.

I would say these days you could stand in front of the congressional building and say America Sucks. ain't nothing going to happen to you, But it appears that we are leaning towards say something like that about certain groups and you could be defined a trying to incite a riot.

Ferguson good example, nothing happened based on what they were saying. Blocking a road way to me a different ball of wax. Looting stores we ain't talking anymore.

This will be defined eventually by case law. On a perfect world if you have the right to say something bad, then I should have it as well.

There is where my problem is with Political Correctness.

Is there truly somewhere that ha true Freedom o speech I doubt it.

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Post by bignote1 » February 20, 2015, 7:31 pm

bumper wrote: Where does one man freedom stop and the other mans begin. That had not been defined here based on the protests we have seen.

Is there truly somewhere that ha true Freedom o speech I doubt it.
I think freedom has been defined in the USA by Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes..... Imo a very succinct definition:-
The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins.

Freedom of Speech better relates to individuals than countries.
In my own case, living in the UK; I don't feel I am denied doing anything with my life or denied saying anything I personally want to say . I don't feel there is a need to live my life or express myself in a guarded way. As a result I believe I live in a free Society.
I do accept however purveyors of ethnic and religious hatred would not agree with me.

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Post by bumper » February 21, 2015, 9:56 am

I think that is the idea you can say it no one has to agree with it.

I'm sure we all have prejudices of some kind as long a we don't act on them. I see no jam

The Justice good point. But, how does that work in saying something that would make the average person want to fight?

I''ve been retired a long time now, So maybe that is better defined these days

Now me I don't like what you have to say I don't have to hang out with you. The same applies to me by you.

One of the things that bothers me of late, Is my country the U.S. Stepping blindly in, in the name of Democracy. Only to the overthrow of a Government. Leaving a void, that makes it easy for extremist to thrive in with them using the Arms we supplied against us.

That thought could be very offensive to some. But, that is what I think. I will act on it when I vote. I won't go block a main road way in Bangkok and put. I won't throw rocks and bottles at cops. I won't loot businesses, I won't stop people from making a living. Or children from going to school. So offensive maybe harmful no.
I reserve the right to be wrong, mispell words type badly. leave words out of sentences because my mind works faster then my fingers. To be an OLD GIT I've earned it

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Post by ronan01 » March 5, 2015, 3:35 pm

Views on the streets: free speech after Copenhagen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrIoZVdiJM0

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Post by ronan01 » March 19, 2015, 5:59 pm

I FURKAN DERYA TO FIND A BETTER NAME THAN FURKAN DERYA

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism ... an-dehrya/

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Post by socksy » March 20, 2015, 6:33 am

=D> Love it
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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » March 20, 2015, 8:08 am

Khun Aardvark, I just read this article now. Thank you for posting it. The analysis is excellent. Thaksin did many selfish and unlawful things but he did bring politics to the countryside for the first time. Prior to him, politics to the rural people was always about some elite in Bangkok doing something to them, not for them.
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Post by parrot » March 20, 2015, 8:16 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
Khun Aardvark, I just read this article now. Thank you for posting it. The analysis is excellent. Thaksin did many selfish and unlawful things but he did bring politics to the countryside for the first time. Prior to him, politics to the rural people was always about some elite in Bangkok doing something to them, not for them.
Fred Barnard had it right.......a picture is worth a thousand words. If you googled 'junta' and you only saw the photo from that article, well, there'd hardly be a need to provide any commentary.

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Post by FrazeeDK » March 20, 2015, 8:33 am

why, why... I oughta mash ya like a potatuh.... It's Moe reincarnated!
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Post by bumper » March 24, 2015, 9:03 am

Watching some footage from Ferguson, Uniformed black officers not in riot gear, Being assaulted by water bottles. I think this would fit within the Justice's opinion.

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Post by ronan01 » March 24, 2015, 10:59 am

FrazeeDK wrote:why, why... I oughta mash ya like a potatuh.... It's Moe reincarnated!
Nyuk nyuk nyuk!!!

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Post by GT93 » July 11, 2015, 1:21 pm

Prince Philip has been caught saying the f word while encouraging a photographer to take a photo of the Prince and Battle of Britain veterans. Good on the old codger. I think it's good that he feels free to say this word in some circumstances even with the cameras running. :D
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Post by Aardvark » July 11, 2015, 4:08 pm

At the Age of 93 (ooh spooky 93) he probably has the right to say almost anything he wants, the silly old bugger :D

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Post by 747man » July 11, 2015, 4:13 pm

Aardvark wrote:At the Age of 93 (ooh spooky 93) he probably has the right to say almost anything he wants, the silly old bugger :D
Yeah !! And Don't Forget Mark, He is probably VERY Annoyed,Being of Greek Descent !!!!

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