Freedom of speech.

Post by **ronan01** » March 24, 2015, 10:59 am

FrazeeDK wrote:why, why... I oughta mash ya like a potatuh.... It's Moe reincarnated!

Nyuk nyuk nyuk!!!

Post by **ronan01** » July 2, 2015, 6:50 am

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... oday/17134

Post by **GT93** » July 11, 2015, 1:21 pm

Prince Philip has been caught saying the f word while encouraging a photographer to take a photo of the Prince and Battle of Britain veterans. Good on the old codger. I think it's good that he feels free to say this word in some circumstances even with the cameras running.

Post by **Aardvark** » July 11, 2015, 4:08 pm

At the Age of 93 (ooh spooky 93) he probably has the right to say almost anything he wants, the silly old bugger

Post by **747man** » July 11, 2015, 4:13 pm

Aardvark wrote:At the Age of 93 (ooh spooky 93) he probably has the right to say almost anything he wants, the silly old bugger

Yeah !! And Don't Forget Mark, He is probably VERY Annoyed,Being of Greek Descent !!!!

Post by **ronan01** » August 26, 2015, 7:48 am

Katie Hopkins: questioned on suspicion of having an opinion

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... nion/17268

Post by **Khun Paul** » August 26, 2015, 8:22 am

Isn't it GOOD the British do not have the same laws as here, you can say whatever you want about the British Royal family and most would ignore you. Freedom of Speech means you use your own set of ethics to speak politely about people you do not know also ensuring you are not too rude about them, freedom comes at a price ......commonsense. Some people have it others do not.

Post by **ronan01** » August 27, 2015, 6:51 am

The narrowing of debate Down Under

"What this reaction to a contrary opinion on gay marriage captures is deeply troubling: a militant conformism. The parameters of public debate, the areas in which ideas and opinions can do battle, are shrinking before our eyes. A few years ago, arguing that the institution of marriage is a heterosexual institution would have been considered an unremarkable, and perfectly legitimate, view. But now this view is being pushed beyond the boundaries of what is acceptable, of what is appropriate. To defend traditional marriage today is to ask for the tweet-happy to brand ‘bigot’ across your face, turn you into a mocking meme, or just shame you back under the supposed rock from whence you crawled. Criticism of gay marriage is called hateful, discriminatory, backward. In the garb of progress, a virulent illiberalism is taking over public life, delineating what views are permissible and what views are not, what views aid the progressive cause, and what views are to be silenced."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... nder/17354

Post by **noosard** » August 27, 2015, 9:23 am

Good to see the Thai prime minister making jokes

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politic ... grassroots

Post by **ronan01** » December 16, 2015, 8:09 pm

https://youtu.be/34wplH4Sb-k

Islamaphobia - a word created by fascists, used by cowards, directed at morons

Post by **noosard** » December 17, 2015, 9:38 am

Good speech by Rita

Post by **Bonanza** » December 17, 2015, 6:45 pm

I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!

Post by **papafarang** » December 17, 2015, 7:06 pm

Bonanza wrote:I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!

sadly old age brings that on. if you believe in freedom ,then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you

Post by **ronan01** » December 17, 2015, 8:21 pm

papafarang wrote:
Bonanza wrote:I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!
sadly old age brings that on. if you believe in freedom ,then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you

Doing a bit of stalking?

Confusing freedom with freedom of speech?

You can have as much freedom as you want as long your freedom does not impinge on the freedom of others.

A supporter of IS is free to espouse the benefits of fundamental islam, but not free to kill people who do not agree with him.

Your thinking is muddled.

Post by **papafarang** » December 17, 2015, 8:43 pm

ronan01 wrote:
papafarang wrote:
Bonanza wrote:I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!
sadly old age brings that on. if you believe in freedom ,then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you
Doing a bit of stalking?

Confusing freedom with freedom of speech?

You can have as much freedom as you want as long your freedom does not impinge on the freedom of others.

A supporter of IS is free to espouse the benefits of fundamental islam, but not free to kill people who do not agree with him.

Your thinking is muddled.

what is someone stalking bonanza ? the usual adversarial reply , they have the right to free speech, no one has the right to kill people, where did that come up in a thread about free speech ? you mention the right to kill, only you mentioned that subject, please stay on topic

Post by **ronan01** » December 17, 2015, 9:34 pm

papafarang wrote:
ronan01 wrote:
papafarang wrote:
Bonanza wrote:I am a liberal, but as I get older I find that I am more intolerant of bigots and other stupid liberals who do not share my point of view. As a liberal I support freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend any of my principles or beliefs.Er? Ugh! Wot! Oh yeah!
sadly old age brings that on. if you believe in freedom ,then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you
Doing a bit of stalking?

Confusing freedom with freedom of speech?

You can have as much freedom as you want as long your freedom does not impinge on the freedom of others.

A supporter of IS is free to espouse the benefits of fundamental islam, but not free to kill people who do not agree with him.

Your thinking is muddled.
what is someone stalking bonanza ? the usual adversarial reply , they have the right to free speech, no one has the right to kill people, where did that come up in a thread about free speech ? you mention the right to kill, only you mentioned that subject, please stay on topic

You need to stay on topic - you deviated onto freedom and rights:

"then isis have the rights to their caliphate ,their right to sharia. the fact we find their laws repugnant interferes with their right to say what the want. but do we need to defend their rights, how about communists rights, atheists rights .Nazi and anarchists. freedom of speech , you can't defend everyone's right to freedom. now there's an oxymoron for you"

Post by **papafarang** » December 17, 2015, 9:52 pm

does it say "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" as the thread. so less of the deflection, members are not that dunb, even a Nazi have the rights, as much as we don't like it . they have the right too

Post by **Bonanza** » December 18, 2015, 1:27 am

There is a DVD documentary about the British involvement in the Dhofar war in the 70s, and one of the veterans makes some very salient points about Christianity and Islam (especially as a large proportion of the local people followed the very strict Wahabi sect of Islam). What a pity that the same observations would not be true today. see http://www.operationoman.com

The general law in UK is that you are free to say what you wish, as long as you do not try to incite others to hatred or offensive action. Works for most of the Brits.

Post by **Bonanza** » December 18, 2015, 1:29 am

There is a DVD documentary about the British involvement in the Dhofar war in the 70s, and one of the veterans makes some very salient points about Christianity and Islam (especially as a large proportion of the local people followed the very strict Wahabi sect of Islam). What a pity that the same observations would not be true today. see http://www.operationoman.com

The general law in UK is that you are free to say what you wish, as long as you do not try to incite others to hatred or offensive action. Works for most of the Brits. It's why satirical magazines such as 'Private Eye' can exist

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Post by **bignote1** » December 18, 2015, 4:00 am

A drunken man was going down the street flinging his hands right and left, when one of his arms came across the nose of a passer-by. The passer-by instinctively clenched his fist and sent the intruder sprawling to the ground. He got up, rubbing the place where he was hit, and said, "I would like to know if this is not a land of liberty." "It is," said the other fellow; "but I want you to understand that your liberty ends just where my nose begins."

The right ( freedom) to swing your fist ends where the other mans nose begins.
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes