if we have a situation where someone is trying to rip us off, we visit to our cuzzie Bro..he's a patched gang member, almost the Grand Moffti himself, done life inside..he looks like a big black truck with tinted windows because he wears rap arounds shades..His fee is 10% of what is owed..He's got the walk.. the leathers..has this look on his face as if he has smelled a bad smell, like an upsidedown smile, every now and then, he sucks air in thru his teeth at the corner of his mouth, that makes alittle phssssss noise..he doesnt have to say much. just to be near him is unnerving, but hes very effective...alas he is not allowed out of the country because of his past convictions..

@ting tong,
Foe button is for sushies, very soft and in 1 bite to eat, thus for those who not want to discuss.

Maybe, if its a pro, She could also hit on you later, like she did and will do with 100 others, all not knowing she is involved with the guy mentioned by the op. In such cases show no mercy. Does she?

@harmonyudon
man, you're a weird dude!

harmonyudon wrote:@ting tong,
Foe button is for sushies, very soft and in 1 bite to eat, thus for those who not want to discuss.

Maybe, if its a pro, She could also hit on you later, like she did and will do with 100 others, all not knowing she is involved with the guy mentioned by the op. In such cases show no mercy. Does she?

That struck a chord. The OP needs to post a picture of the object of his buddy's desire. For all we know, it could be the Udon's very own walking/talking Venus flytrap, the unbecoming but consistently successful, serially sponsored Miss Da... after she apologised to her latest, elderly German victim and entered into another payback-in-lieu-of-jail deal. Seems like she would need to have some sort of sponsorship to meet 'legal obligations' no? The girl seems to have a firm grip on the principle of a pyramid scheme but hasn't worked out the technicalities yet.

tamada wrote:..Seems like she would need to have some sort of sponsorship to meet 'legal obligations' no?

And let's hope that she will not get pregnant, from him or not him...hehehe, also in case of a village marriage only. Also let's hope that she don't read this.

Added: before marriage

Thanks for the response. Having been that soldier many moons ago, the brick wall, to far gone statements could well be correct. Much appreciate the book tips, for the moment pushing him into self education seems the best option. Will advise his dad to hold on with the private investigation. If he did go down that route who should he use, no doubt there are some real skum in that game . It would not be an issue to him to pay for a proper service.

Agree with the other poster that reading http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanG ... ssions.htm is a good place to start. Tie him to a chair and force him to read all of these.

I read online for weeks before coming the first time and still got myself into more than my fair share of pickles, I shudder to think what the hell would have happened had i not read what i did.

Information is everywhere, but i guess many turn away from it, rather than burst their own bubbles.

cornish wrote:Agree with the other poster that reading http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanG ... ssions.htm is a good place to start. Tie him to a chair and force him to read all of these.

Good plan - that would certainly send him insane, and dad could have him sectioned.

If he is well and truly on the cliff, all the reading in the world is not going to stop his plunge because (wait for it...)

"She's different".

Energy would be better spent educating him about how to protect his interests for when the inevitable happens. Been there and coached dozens of wide-open guys over the years. Don't try to stop him from going over the cliff.

Throw his azz over with a parachute instead.

Just my two satang... :-"

May I talk in Plain English? Cant follow some posts here.
Plain and simple, I came to Thailand 20 years ago.
At that time The Thai scam was not so prominent.Now a days, it is more in the open.
So, yes.I got stung.Lost a bit, but not as much as many.
It was easy to get led down the wrong road.
Now, all the cheating and lying is for all the world to see.
I was a fool to listen! They were the devil on my shoulder.
Guess I had a sheltered life :roll:
My God! If i had stayed alone out here I would be a rich man.
A car of my own, nice pad. Like all the other Farangs. Even afford I retire Visa!
If only Udon map was around then .
I could have learned that I only Hansum man , and Good heart, when Have money in the bank!
No insults please I know I was a fool. No need tell me.

cornish wrote:Agree with the other poster that reading http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanG ... ssions.htm is a good place to start. Tie him to a chair and force him to read all of these.

I read online for weeks before coming the first time and still got myself into more than my fair share of pickles, I shudder to think what the hell would have happened had i not read what i did.

Information is everywhere, but i guess many turn away from it, rather than burst their own bubbles.

I remember first reading Stickman when he was going on about sin sodht. It was somewhat amusing, but not very realistic. Later, I read an article about one farang's review of various popular Thai singers, which was informative since he included some crooners that were new to me. I looked at one more article by Stickman that was instantly forgettable. He gets boring very quickly.

I never cared much for Stickmans writing either, thats not where the valuable info is though. The stuff that could be of use to this guy and certainly was to me is in the readers submissions. why do you not tell his old boy to suggest putting his property in his name ?

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:

cornish wrote:Agree with the other poster that reading http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanG ... ssions.htm is a good place to start. Tie him to a chair and force him to read all of these.

I read online for weeks before coming the first time and still got myself into more than my fair share of pickles, I shudder to think what the hell would have happened had i not read what i did.

Information is everywhere, but i guess many turn away from it, rather than burst their own bubbles.

I remember first reading Stickman when he was going on about sin sodht. It was somewhat amusing, but not very realistic. Later, I read an article about one farang's review of various popular Thai singers, which was informative since he included some crooners that were new to me. I looked at one more article by Stickman that was instantly forgettable. He gets boring very quickly.

Actually Stickman is not the author of the stories, these are experiences from people who have been exposed to the marvelous Thai culture in varying ways. Some stories are to taken with a grain of salt but there is a wealth of information there for newcomers.

The OP posted that he feels the guy is a victim of a pro that's why such reactions. You can take a girl out of a bar but its difficult to take the bar out of the girl. But, there are good stories also. If he marry her perhaps they can be happy and she perhaps stop fooling around.And if she realizes that he is a good guy perhaps money is not her priority to be with him. You don't know beforehand.

It would be nice if we get updates on this story.

harmonyudon wrote:The OP posted that he feels the guy is a victim of a pro that's why such reactions. You can take a girl out of a bar but its difficult to take the bar out of the girl. But, there are good stories also. If he marry her perhaps they can be happy and she perhaps stop fooling around.And if she realizes that he is a good guy perhaps money is not her priority to be with him. You don't know beforehand.

It would be nice if we get updates on this story.

But that would be bucking a trend no? If she actually turns out to be different I mean.

Nobody's interested in "local ho' makes good" stories. We want more public, taken-to-the-cleaners, Morti-style failures so we can gloat and pontificate and 'I told you so' and quote from our huge collection of anecdotal tales from other forums.

Hi,
You can not help a LSV. IMHO. He is beyond help. No notice will be taken. Little head ruling the big head.. Happened to my next door neighbour. When he went back home, to work. House and car, he bought her, were taken over by two farang uncles.
Once a fool always a fool. He said to me last time he was over, she stays in every night and is in bed by 2000Hrs. Four days after he left LOS, last time, her and the car, left with her farang uncle and did not return until 4 days before he came back.
Once a fool aways a fool. I told him, since he did not believe me, to put a phone in the house, not a mobil, and phone her at 2000Hrs and see if she was in. He poo poohed the idea, silly billy.
He has just put a sign to sell the house. I wonder which name the house was put in, when bought. I think i can guess. I hope he was not stupid enough to put it in her name?

douglas wrote:Hi,
You can not help a LSV. IMHO. He is beyond help. No notice will be taken. Little head ruling the big head.. Happened to my next door neighbour. When he went back home, to work. House and car, he bought her, were taken over by two farang uncles.

She had a farang uncle(s)?

How does that work?

mortiboy wrote:May I talk in Plain English? Cant follow some posts here.
Plain and simple, I came to Thailand 20 years ago.
At that time The Thai scam was not so prominent.Now a days, it is more in the open.
So, yes.I got stung.Lost a bit, but not as much as many.
It was easy to get led down the wrong road.
Now, all the cheating and lying is for all the world to see.
I was a fool to listen! They were the devil on my shoulder.
Guess I had a sheltered life
My God! If i had stayed alone out here I would be a rich man.
A car of my own, nice pad. Like all the other Farangs. Even afford I retire Visa!
If only Udon map was around then .
I could have learned that I only Hansum man , and Good heart, when Have money in the bank!
No insults please I know I was a fool. No need tell me.

The only fools are the ones that keep doing the same thing over and over, I think most of us here have learned a few things the hard way in the land of surprises.

I know the lad in question well enough to be confident his first burn will be the last. His old boy broached the subject of transfering ownership of properties but this was rejected with near violence. Its is as ever a catch 22. Was told today word came back from three PI agencies he asked for quotes, ranging from 9000 bht a day to a chancer who quoted *Udon is way out in the boonies, so that,ll be 300,000 bht for a week long investigation*

At the end of the day a grown man is going to do what hes going to do, putting the info to him and trying to get him to use the parachute alluded to by a previous poster is all that can really be done.

Has all the hallmarks of a long game and I know nothing more now, so i will not comment further until concrete facts emerge.

maybe just maybe.............. shes different

every mindshaft is different