waanjai wrote:My understanding of the dynamics of the communication with the Immigration Officer is somewhat different. After the alien had suggested to "go forth and fornicate" he prolly thought: No visa - no fornicating with the daughters of the poor peasants in Esan next time.

waanjai
Don't read to much into my turn of phrase of go forth and fornicate, I would never say that to any official out loud, under my breath is as loud as I get. Although I have been known to use that phrase out loud to non official persons, but very rarely, would have to be IMO a real ------ to make me say that. Also don't take the stateement out of context to much, I did in my post in the following paragraph admit I have finally been found out. I am not naive to immigration compliance.
Any way I have just been yesterday with my peasant's daughter in tow to the UT immigration office to get the low down on my personal situation. I am never afraid to ask officialdom questions as I am always legal or try to be in what I do. The young girl at the visa extension desk just inside the front door was happy to take the time and explain that my passport and file has in fact been marked by immigration as to many visits without a visa and that it would be better next time to get the visa stamp. That's all I needed to know and will naturally comply. I am off to Vietnam prior to my next visit so will get a 3 month visa from there.
Said thanks and gave her my best ghetto smile and off I went. All is now good on the thai front and just waiting my yellow book pickup next Monday.

Barney wrote:Don't read to much into my turn of phrase of go forth and fornicate, .....

It was a pun intended.
I am glad Your visa situation will soon be in much better order. Same as with Mick. These Non-Immi-Visa give much more confidence to those constantly travelling.

Barney wrote: All is now good on the thai front and just waiting my yellow book pickup next Monday.

Good to hear that Monday is already "Pick-up" day. The Yellow Tabien Baan is one of the few documents left some Thai bureaucrats believe that it would be a special gift to the alien - and therefore expect remuneration.
Once You have it it will make life easier - especially if your life consists of more challenges than buying a used motorcycle.

All together this might even lead to developing a feeling of belonging to Udon.

waanjai wrote:

Barney wrote:Don't read to much into my turn of phrase of go forth and fornicate, .....

It was a pun intended.
I am glad Your visa situation will soon be in much better order. Same as with Mick. These Non-Immi-Visa give much more confidence to those constantly travelling.

Barney wrote: All is now good on the thai front and just waiting my yellow book pickup next Monday.

Good to hear that Monday is already "Pick-up" day. The Yellow Tabien Baan is one of the few documents left some Thai bureaucrats believe that it would be a special gift to the alien - and therefore expect remuneration.
Once You have it it will make life easier - especially if your life consists of more challenges than buying a used motorcycle.

All together this might even lead to developing a feeling of belonging to Udon.

Almost feel like I belong,
would never buy a used motor cycle though. :-"
I do have other personal motives for wanting the yellow book.

Next one is to try for the 6 month METV being spoken of so much and get me on a more secure footing and a better feeling of belonging prior to finally retiring with a visa when I get as old as some guys here.
Hopefully if that visa is forth coming it should satisfy the immigration coppers on my next arrival. Maybe???

Barney I read that you cant get back to back 6 month visas on the new system etc.

Due to the limitations of the new METV - especially as it is not designed to be a long-time-visa, no back to back usage -
I would recomend a Non-Immi-O-Multiple entry visa

In the words of the Thai Embassy in Canberra it is meant to be for:
"To visit immediate family. It normally includes spouses and children. (Category “O”)"

You are regularly returning to Your child in Udon in order to take care of the child.
You will have to show the relevant documents (like birth certificate, tabien baan of Your child, Your tabien baan) to the embassy or consulate in Australia.

In the long run - when You are interested to stay in Udon for longer periods than just 90 days - You can apply for a one year permission to stay in Udon granted thru an extension of stay of your Non-Immi-Visa.
Then You would fall under category 2.18 of the current National Police Order:

wazza wrote:Barney I read that you cant get back to back 6 month visas on the new system etc.

Thanks Wazza, didn't know that and more things I need to check out. I am going to go to the Thai embassy in Beijing for a tourist visa of some sort, so will ask them the best way to come as a multi entry tourist.
My crappy roster for work in China at the moment is 11 weeks on and only 2 weeks back here.
I was spoilt before with the 28day/28day roster for a year and a half, hence all the immigration stamps in my passport where I have now been found out.
The letter I posted for the METV has been sent to all Thai embassies including China.
I'll post what actually transpires later.

Got my 6 month multi entry visa yesterday in Sydney,
in reading the official letter I posted earlier, just about all of the requirements listed are not required

Only need passport valid 6 month
1 photo
completed application form
225 AUD
Pick up on the 3rd day after submission

That's it
no 8000 in the bank
no additional airticket
no blah blah blah

according to and to quote the thai immigration officer on the counter you can come and go from Thailand a thousand times, maybe he has been in aussie land to long to make quotes like that, but you get his drift.

I think there are different visa requirements or rules when applying outside the country as to within the country?

Be interesting to follow up on these new 6mth multi entry tourist visas. In respect to those holders who try to reapply.

The first ones issued must soon be expiring.

Multi-entry tourist visas ... I think the reality is they are unlikely to have a problem with people getting them and coming from developed countries. But try getting one anywhere else without further checks .....

Got my first entry stamp last night with the new visa, have till the 9th August. I'll front up to immigration before then to enquire about any extensions from the 60 days till 90. Unless I have to depart prior to the 60 days.

Was interested to listen to the conversation of 2 women in the Sydney Thai visa office.
The 2 women, and I'll only assume they were Australian citizens, were getting vocally excited about having to wait 2 months from application to get Thai visas for their husbands. The husbands were not there ( maybe in detention), only the women were present. The men have Iranian passports and the women could not understand why they could not get their tourist visas in the 3 day wait period as applies to Australians. As I listened and the volume went higher and higher it became clear that the men are not Australian citizens, as yet, but their argument was, they live in Australia so is the same. The Thai guy behind the desk held his cool for a long period and eventually said, you have 2 choice....give me the application and come back in 2 months or apply again when your husbands have Australian citizenship and wait the 3 days. They left.
He's a nice guy in the Sydney office and always helps explain the situation to applicants. I doubt the 2 woman will receive the Thai smile next time.

Barney wrote:Got my first entry stamp last night with the new visa, have till the 9th August. I'll front up to immigration before then to enquire about any extensions from the 60 days till 90. Unless I have to depart prior to the 60 days.

The rules on the METV and extensions are quite simple. Each entry is for 60 days each time you enter and can be extended for 30 days at a cost of ฿1,900 (unless you are married to a Thai when it is a 60 day extension)

Depending on where you want to visit it can be cheaper or more convenient to exit and re-enter than to extend.

You can enter as often as you want within the 6months from the issue date of the visa and get another 60 days each time.

So enter on the last day of the visa and you will be able to stay about 9 months total (depending on how soon after the visa was issued you first came in)

Don't forget that you will need a re-entry permit after the visa expires if you want to keep that permission to stay active, if you want to leave and return.

FWIW you would find it hard to get anywhere near 90 entries let alone 1,000

sometimewoodworker wrote:

Barney wrote:Got my first entry stamp last night with the new visa, have till the 9th August. I'll front up to immigration before then to enquire about any extensions from the 60 days till 90. Unless I have to depart prior to the 60 days.

The rules on the METV and extensions are quite simple. Each entry is for 60 days each time you enter and can be extended for 30 days at a cost of ฿1,900 (unless you are married to a Thai when it is a 60 day extension)

Depending on where you want to visit it can be cheaper or more convenient to exit and re-enter than to extend.

You can enter as often as you want within the 6months from the issue date of the visa and get another 60 days each time.

So enter on the last day of the visa and you will be able to stay about 9 months total (depending on how soon after the visa was issued you first came in)

Don't forget that you will need a re-entry permit after the visa expires if you want to keep that permission to stay active, if you want to leave and return.

FWIW you would find it hard to get anywhere near 90 entries let alone 1,000

OK does that mean (assuming I am not married) that
I arrive on a 60 Day Visa
Then on day 59, I trundle down and pay TB 1,900 and get my 30 Day Visa extension
Then on day 88, I trundle down and pay TB 1,900 and get another 30 Day Visa extension, and so on, assuming that I don't get married in between visa's

How often can I keep doing this

Re. FWIW you would find it hard to get anywhere near 90 entries let alone 1,000 - What exactly does this mean??

Hate this getting married thing [-o<

Regards

pipoz444

Assuming you have a Multiple entry tourist visa you will be given 60 days on arrival, extendable by 30 days. Then you MUST leave the country. On re-entering, you will be given another 60 days, again extendable by 30 days. You may enter at any time and be given 60 days during the validity of the visa. Hence, you may enter on the last day of validity of the visa and be given another 60 days, extendable by 30 days.

BTW, its been mentioned here that if you are married you can get a 60 day extension while using a tourist visa. I would doubt that, but I may be wrong. In the past I have only been given 60 day extensions on Non immigrant visa. When using tourist visas, have only ever been given 30 days.

skinner wrote:Assuming you have a Multiple entry tourist visa you will be given 60 days on arrival, extendable by 30 days. Then you MUST leave the country. On re-entering, you will be given another 60 days, again extendable by 30 days. You may enter at any time and be given 60 days during the validity of the visa. Hence, you may enter on the last day of validity of the visa and be given another 60 days, extendable by 30 days.

Thanks Skinner

pipoz4444

pipoz4444 wrote:

sometimewoodworker wrote:

Barney wrote:Got my first entry stamp last night with the new visa, have till the 9th August. I'll front up to immigration before then to enquire about any extensions from the 60 days till 90. Unless I have to depart prior to the 60 days.

The rules on the METV and extensions are quite simple. Each entry is for 60 days each time you enter and can be extended for 30 days at a cost of ฿1,900 (unless you are married to a Thai when it is a 60 day extension)

Depending on where you want to visit it can be cheaper or more convenient to exit and re-enter than to extend.

You can enter as often as you want within the 6months from the issue date of the visa and get another 60 days each time.

So enter on the last day of the visa and you will be able to stay about 9 months total (depending on how soon after the visa was issued you first came in)

Don't forget that you will need a re-entry permit after the visa expires if you want to keep that permission to stay active, if you want to leave and return.

FWIW you would find it hard to get anywhere near 90 entries let alone 1,000

OK does that mean (assuming I am not married) that
I arrive on a 60 Day Visa
Then on day 59, I trundle down and pay TB 1,900 and get my 30 Day Visa extension
Then on day 88, I trundle down and pay TB 1,900 and get another 30 Day Visa extension, and so on, assuming that I don't get married in between visa's

How often can I keep doing this

Re. FWIW you would find it hard to get anywhere near 90 entries let alone 1,000 - What exactly does this mean??

Hate this getting married thing [-o<

Regards

pipoz444

No. You can only have one permission to stay extension for one entry and the 30 days are added to the existing time so you have no need to wait for day 59 you can go in a week before and you will still get the 30 days added to your permission to stay.
Then on day 89 exit Thailand return the same day and get another 60 days that can be extended for 30 days.
Rinse and repeat.
Don't forget to do your last border hop just befor the VISA expires to get the maximum use.

And getting 90 entries would mean leaving and re-entering more than once a day.

skinner wrote:BTW, its been mentioned here that if you are married you can get a 60 day extension while using a tourist visa. I would doubt that, but I may be wrong. In the past I have only been given 60 day extensions on Non immigrant visa. When using tourist visas, have only ever been given 30 days.

AFIK You can extend any permission to stay, even a visa exempt for 60 days as long as you are married or have Thai children, you need:
Your wife, TM7 form, Your marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of your wife house book registry and ID card. Proof of residence unless living where you wife's house book is for.
Copies your passport photo page, visa, entry stamp, extension stamp and TM6 departure card.