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Post by Khun Paul » November 21, 2011, 7:21 am

Well advertising that your property is worth guarding is certainly a way of increasing the percentage that soemone will take a look.
When I bought my house all i did was to change the lights and have the wall (outside) painted, no overt illusion that a farang had moved in, no displays of opulence etc.
So far that seems to have worked. if you want to flash it about then you will attract the ne'er do wells to look again at your property, and the one thing I can say that they are as good as western criminals they have the patience to sit and watch for days and days and the day you slip up is the day they will enter.



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Post by Sateev » November 21, 2011, 8:22 am

As if no one knows that a foreigner lives there...

Google around a bit, and if you can filter out all the vendors who have a vested interest in selling CCTV, you can find scholarly papers, mostly from that surveillance state called the UK, which say that CCTV has a deterrent effect on property crime, although not so much on street-level crime, mostly due to alcohol. They should know.

I guess this means that drunken thieves wont take heed of your prominently displayed CCTV cameras/signs, but the professional ones will.

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Post by parrot » November 21, 2011, 2:34 pm

Another burglary as reported by an editor of the BP.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... burglaries

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Post by trubrit » November 21, 2011, 2:53 pm

parrot wrote:Another burglary as reported by an editor of the BP.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... burglaries
So not in UDON then. :-" :lol:
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Post by KHONDAHM » November 21, 2011, 3:39 pm

The gripe I've always had about exterior cameras is that they advertise wealth and MIGHT be effective after the fact. You can watch (over and over again) your goods being stolen. (lol)

Good bars and locks, bright perimeter lights, and a noisy mutt (inside the house) are the best exterior deterrents IMHO. CCTV works best inside. You get a much better picture of the person(s) stealing your stuff which you can watch over and over again (lol) and it would be more helpful to the BIB. Also, if the cameras are the "hidden" type, thieves won't be searching for the recorder.

Not sticking to a daily routine, parking an extra vehicle in different places (ie.e motorbike in the driveway, by the fence, at the front door, etc.), and leaving extra shoes at the door(s) are also very good no cost deterrents to a thief trying to learn your routine. Darkening your home and car windows so people cannot see who left in the car or who remains in the house are other low-cost deterrents.


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Post by parrot » November 21, 2011, 4:16 pm

I could dress incognito so the neighbors wouldn't know I'm leaving the home! Or, just buy house content insurance and be done with it.
I know a few folks who rarely ever leave their homes.....in constant fear of a break-in. I'm all for security, insurance, safety....but in the end, I don't want to be a prisoner in my own home.

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Post by BangkokButcher » November 21, 2011, 5:19 pm

I also suffered a burglary sometime back in Udon.

My office was located in Soi Jamnussorn inside a very quiet Cul De Sac, which was not easy to find, unless you knew it was there. Around me were approximately 11 other houses, all occupied with locals and/or/either farangs.

I headed out for a late dinner one night and when I returned home at around 11.30pm, we unlocked the main door (which had been untouched), walked in - then it took a few moments to actually realise what has happened.
My office space was upside down. Laptops/PC's/GPS Units/Fax machine/LCD's/Phones - anything of an ok value, and easy to carry.
They broke in through the back door by literally taking the door off of it's hinges, destroying all locks that were present to help prevent such an incident.

I still wholeheartedly believe that a neighbour was involved and so did the police. I never managed to get anything back from the burglary though.

I also know a few others around town, both in and outside the ring roads that have suffered the consequences of a break in.

The bottom line is, don't take chances, unless you don't really care.

I'm just glad my kids we not staying over at the time...

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Post by tamada » December 13, 2016, 9:38 pm

This thread died a death. Is Sukkasem still in outlaw territory? Has Violet stepped up and co-opted the local plod to do some patrols? Is it a safer place to stay now?

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Post by trubrit » December 14, 2016, 7:19 am

Funny you should revive this thread. I have just come back from a meeting in Udon where the local police were discussing a rise in "cat" burglaries, over 20 in the last month, all in the Udon area.The occupants were all sound asleep when they were burgled, mainly of small high value items, gold, watches, phones and of course money.Entry was gained via easily opened windows without much effort .None of the victims heard a thing, despite in some cases hearing dogs barking .Whilst all the houses appear to have had Thai occupants, there is no reason for us farang to be complacent. I was robbed in this manner two years ago and the investigating officer said I was lucky not to have awakened as it could have led to a violent confrontation.I found it rather disturbing to know strangers were walking round my bedroom while I was fast asleep and I never heard a thing .I can assure you I have tightened up all apects of home security now.Suggest you check yours.
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Post by vincemunday » December 14, 2016, 7:38 am

Just a little heads up on CCTV. I have installed a few cameras around my apartments and made them very visible but as someone says earlier in the thread, cameras usually take much clearer pictures indoors. If you install cameras in the house, a ridiculous scenario but it seems necessary in some places, I'd leave them so they were very obvious so that they can be seen as soon as entry is made into your property, cameras are a great deterrent but perhaps not if they are hidden away. A decent enough four camera system doesn't cost a lot, you can pick them up in Landmark for as little as 6000 baht. Although you will get a hard drive with 1TB of memory, I shouldn't worry about it too much, just make sure your system is capable of saving files onto the Cloud (most are these days), there are two advantages to this, one is that the intruder can't get at the files and the other is the files are accessible anywhere you have access to the internet.
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Post by Liam Dale » December 14, 2016, 7:57 am

Agree with Vince. Our system was 10k inc 4 GOOD cameras for lo light & recordable HD that if I chose could go in the attic. The ratproof cables were quite pricy. But more valuable I have 24 access to the cameras views on my iphone. Havent actually set it up yet which makes me a ****.. but nothing new there.

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Post by Marcosteffano » December 14, 2016, 8:11 am

I was thinking about getting a 150kg safe,filling it to the top with nuts and bolts,then leaving it in full view in the lounge so that if I did get burgled they would have a nice little go at hauling the thing away and leaving the TVs and other stuff.could you imagine their faces after all the work to get into it just to find 100kg of rusty nuts n bolts.mrs said they would come back and shoot me for cheating them.

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Post by Barney » December 14, 2016, 10:38 am

We haven't finished our security system yet on the new house which will include a cam system, but we have our own very young personal guard on duty at the moment. Very effective deterrent.
Here he is on his way back from the gym flexing his 6 pack.
He does make it hard to see out the back of the Isuzu though.
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Post by trubrit » December 14, 2016, 10:48 am

I forgot to mention, in a couple of cases the dogs were fed drugged food first.
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Post by vincemunday » December 14, 2016, 11:15 am

Fitting CCTV is really easy to fit but if anyone can't do it I have a guy who will install it really cheaply, he will also set up your phones and tablets etc so you can watch it remotely.
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Post by felixcat » March 24, 2017, 7:15 pm

I don't know if this thread has been "laid to rest", but would like to say, things will get worse. We have good relations with most of our neighbors 1/2 way down the road. We provide bottle water& dry noodles to those who need something now and have no money. In return they watch our place, share many nice foods with us.Together, if someone comes in our space to do evil, it will be your last opportunity.
I urge others who are friendly with "the natives" as they call them. Start getting friendly and start "grouping".

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Post by vincemunday » March 25, 2017, 8:09 am

I agree with you 100% Felix, we get on very well with the villagers, particularly the people who we bought our land from, we always make sure we visit them when we go there and take them some fruit or something. This usually turns out to be a bit pointless because they in turn fill up a grocery bag with whatever it is they are growing at that time so every now and again we take them to a restaurant for lunch or supper, they don't get out very often so it's a real treat for them. The real upshot of this is that within 3 minutes of arriving at our land, the old owners who live about a km away turn up to say hello and have a chat with the wife, the place is very well looked after and over by the locals who adore my wife because she's a wannabe farmer girl, quite rare for young people these days. The moral of the story is as you say, look after the locals and they will look after you.
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Post by Marcosteffano » March 25, 2017, 8:51 am

I live 1km outside nong wua so and have been here for 18 months and have never heard of a crime.the locals are very friendly and I think they appreciate us being here spending money,employing people.even the police are ok.the other month one let me off a 200b fine.the youths out here don't seem to be a problem apart from loud sometimes fast scooters.the crime is more in the city with gangster mentally,drugs and boredom.my security consists of outside lighting from dusk till dawn.dummy cctv around the property and a concreted safe that's well and truely out of sight that never has much in it apart from deeds etc.if we go market I always leave lights and tv on as it's all low wattage and is probably the best form of security.we don't have a dog as the neighbor has and it lets us know if someone is at the gates.security can be very cheap but some people wait until it's too late...keep em peeled. John thaw,police five for those who can remember.

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Post by Marcosteffano » March 25, 2017, 8:59 am

Sorry got that mixed up...it was shaw Taylor.police 5...uk tv many moons ago...don't forget keep them peeled (eyes) was his one liner at the end of the programme.

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