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Re: koi carp ponds

Post by farang » February 15, 2006, 12:39 am

leprechaun wrote:
PS guess what mrs leprechaun bought me for valentines! Free drink to the winner.
a fishing rod and a brochure on how to turn a pond into a jacuzzi \:D/

chang please lol :lol:



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Post by banpaeng » February 15, 2006, 1:20 am

Don't know what he got but Falangs answer is the best so far. :lol: :lol:

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Post by yorkman » February 15, 2006, 2:21 am

polehawk wrote:A school of guppies? :lol:
Yes, and some of those Archer Fish things to shoot down the mossies that the guppys miss.

Seems reasonable to me... 8-[

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Re: koi carp ponds

Post by yorkman » February 15, 2006, 2:24 am

BEER MONKEY wrote:
leprechaun wrote:
PS guess what mrs leprechaun bought me for valentines! Free drink to the winner.
Was it a strong young man to dig out the pond...........or Socks. :roll:
No, she bought the strong young man for herself... :twisted:

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Koi ponds and leeches

Post by FrazeeDK » February 16, 2006, 8:57 am

It's a bit away from the Koi issue (although Kois can have leech probs) but does anyone have a solution to getting rid of leeches in local ponds.. I have two large spring fed (nam-hin) fish ponds on the property. Both are about 12 meters wide X 35 meters long X 3-4 meters deep. I've got family that have swum in them and complained about getting leeches.. Anybody know of any natural way to kill them off or indeed any chemical way that wouldn't kill the fish I already have in the ponds and where to get it locally?? The water's a might cloudy, but it sure would be a nice swimmin' hole during the hot season

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Post by banpaeng » February 16, 2006, 9:31 am

I haven't a clue so I ask wife ans she said ducks will get rid of the leaches. I said they will eat the fish and she just shrugged her shoulders. YOur guess is as good as mine.

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Post by briang » February 16, 2006, 6:39 pm

I found this

How can I control leeches and

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Post by briang » February 16, 2006, 6:49 pm

Another way to get rid of leeches.

Another method suggested by the Schoharie County Soil and Water (Conservation District News) is the 'Leech trap.'

1. Start with a coffee can with a plastic lid
2. Poke holes in the sides of the can with a nail. Holes should be 1/8 to 1/4 inch in size. The nail holes should leave a sharp burr on the inside of the can (approximately 50 holes).
3. Put about 1/4 cup of raw meat in the can (ground beef, liver, chicken or turkey giblets are recommended).
4. Put the lid on the can and submerge it completely in your pond. A rock placed on top of the can will prevent it from falling over and will help prevent snapping turtles from tampering with it.
5. Check the trap a couple of times a week and remove the leeches. Keep the trap in the pond until the leech numbers decrease, or you no longer catch any leeches in the trap.

There are a few good Internet resources available if you would like to learn more about leeches. The Department of Natural Resources, Water and Land Resources division of individual's County, Washington offers an informative web page on leeches and the Australian Museum online offers a more detailed description of leech biology.

This from http://www.dnr.cornell.edu/ext/fish/Pon ... ~mainFrame

The punctured can sounds like a cheeper option. Another suggestion was to drain the pond and let it freeze over winter, though I doubt this method will be any use to you. :lol:

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Post by banpaeng » February 16, 2006, 7:54 pm

briang wrote:The punctured can sounds like a cheeper option. Another suggestion was to drain the pond and let it freeze over winter, though I doubt this method will be any use to you. :lol:

Brian
Hope you have some good roads for all the trucks of Ice it will take. :lol:

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koi ponds and leeches

Post by leprechaun » February 16, 2006, 8:58 pm

There are many web sites and books available, on the subject of leeches, all with helpful advice. However, it is impossible to eradicate them "in situ"without heavy if not complete loss of fish life. The only sure fire way is to completely drain all water as has been suggested, of course we dont get frosts in this part of the world, but we do get hot sunshine, which will bake all remaining eggs.
If you are in close proximity to other ponds it is likely that they will be infested too, so it would be only a matter of time before you would be back to square one.

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Post by yorkman » February 17, 2006, 3:05 am

Crocodile Birds eat leeches.

Ok,thanks, I need a pair of those as well. I'll pass on the crocodile unless I need to resort to that for the home security :lol:

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Re: koi carp ponds

Post by beer monkey » February 17, 2006, 3:48 am

PS guess what mrs leprechaun bought me for valentines! Free drink to the winner.[/quote]

Ok leprechaun, who wins the beer?
Can You Dig It Dug.?

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Post by yorkman » February 17, 2006, 3:57 am

I do (I hope), he got a Koi, a vortex tank, or a bag of cement

All are excellent Valentines Day gifts IMHO

Do I get a beer now?

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Post by BobHelm » February 17, 2006, 4:10 am

As has been said on this site many times before John... to each their own :D

Personally i think it was a bunch of red roses..... :-({|=

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Post by yorkman » February 17, 2006, 5:51 am

You prefer a bunch of Red Roses I presume Bob

Very tricky... Two hands on the zimmer...10 Red roses in the mouth I presume.

Well; its a novelty emerging from Udon International...

:wink:

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Post by polehawk » February 17, 2006, 10:50 pm

So the moderators are moderating the moderators? :lol:

Gotta agree that this one did veer away from the "fresnel cone zone".

Question for you Koi Carpers: are they as durable a species as the common carp found feeding off of the bottoms of lakes and rivers around the world? Any life expectancy estimates for them? Could google for the info but would mean more coming from someone in Udon who is actually sharing their ponds with them.

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Post by yorkman » February 18, 2006, 2:15 am

polehawk wrote:So the moderators are moderating the moderators? :lol:

Question for you Koi Carpers: are they as durable a species as the common carp found feeding off of the bottoms of lakes and rivers around the world? Any life expectancy estimates for them? Could google for the info but would mean more coming from someone in Udon who is actually sharing their ponds with them.
Yes and good. The mods are just forum members like everybody else, the rules apply. It's a thread hijack, for which I was partly responsible...so :fryingpan: it is.

Koi live 30 or so years on average. Exceptionally, they can live much longer. Their life span is less than the average wild carp if it reaches its normal term, due to some damage to the genetics caused by selective breeding I understand. I think they are derived from the Asian Grey Carp, rather than the "Common Carp", which refers to a particular species, although I do know what you meant Polehawk.

Errr...which members do you think are sharing ponds with Koi?? I know there are some apparent strange proclivities on here, but I sort of imagined most used condo's or houses for accommodation :lol:

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Post by polehawk » February 18, 2006, 4:39 am

yorkman wrote: Koi live 30 or so years on average. Exceptionally, they can live much longer. Their life span is less than the average wild carp if it reaches its normal term, due to some damage to the genetics caused by selective breeding I understand. I think they are derived from the Asian Grey Carp, rather than the "Common Carp", which refers to a particular species, although I do know what you meant Polehawk.

Errr...which members do you think are sharing ponds with Koi?? I know there are some apparent strange proclivities on here, but I sort of imagined most used condo's or houses for accommodation :lol:

John
30 years? WOW! :shock: That's definitely more bang for the buck, er pound, John. Selective inbreeding in a pond, maybe, but still sounds like a hardy species. Able to endure everything except the local hungry Huck Finn and stray soi cats, I suppose. Might have to seriously consider getting a pack of chihuahuas (life expectancy of 20 years) to roam the property and scare off intruders. Ooops, talk about straying....

In a sense, we would be sharing the pond since we would get the pleasure of watching the Kois feed, frolic and procreate and they would earn their dough by keeping the bottom spotless. As far as the more strange members residing in their ponds, I would suggest counting noses the morning after monthly meetings. Might need another moderator to handle that one. :lol:

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Post by yorkman » February 18, 2006, 4:53 am

:lol:

As a famous (in a satire) politician said to the press "You may well think so, I could'nt possibly comment"

Back to Koi Carp..... who actually has a decent pond in Udon, that they do not live in, just the fish?.....I'd love to take a look

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Post by banpaeng » February 18, 2006, 7:33 am

Boy John, in this day of enviromental concern, you want a pond only shared by the fish. If you use it as a pool also or spa you can save water. Heck put a couple of parinha in and this could get exciting. :lol: :lol:

Save water is the code of the day.

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