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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 9:39 am

"What law governs that acquired the following is required to certify that I am alive"

• Proof of residency: :confused:
◦Your own yellow or blue book -or- :confused:
◦Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or- :confused:
◦A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, That can certify your residency :confused:

Which accommodation I have in Thailand, Is not requested in the life certificate

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Post by BobHelm » October 1, 2014, 10:50 am

Boss is talking about private pension providers in the UK, not the Swedish Government.
I have done similar to him in the past - including getting a neighbouring police captain fill & sign the form all in Thai!!

It is an auditor requirement by these organisations to ensure that pensions are not being paid to people who are no longer living. The only requirement is to prove that you are who you say you are (via your passport) & that you are breathing.. :D

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 11:14 am

Tourist Police seems to have other rules!, and refers to the law change ?

"In order to have your life certificate signed and stamped, you should bring the following documents:
•Passport
•Life certificate
•Proof of residency:
◦Your own yellow or blue book -or-
◦Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or-
◦A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, that can certify your residency"

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Post by BobHelm » October 1, 2014, 11:36 am

Yes, I agree LenA.
Where you live has absolutely nothing to do with signing this form, which is just a 'proof of life' form.
The cynical among us might almost think that the Tourist Police are actually doing some data collection that can be used for other purposes while providing this service.. :shock:

It would be interesting to get their 'take' on why they require this additional information.
The only thing that is required, surely, is to see that the passport details match the person & the name on the form..

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 12:39 pm

Yes, BobHelm
we have to see if a replay is coming? :-)

/LenArt

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Post by stattointhailand » October 1, 2014, 1:23 pm

LenArt wrote:Yes, BobHelm
we have to see if a replay is coming? :-)

/LenArt
AND

why they seem to think that a signature and a rubber stamp adjacent to it should cost B300 [-X

Don't hold your breath :-"

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Post by Barney » October 1, 2014, 3:02 pm

I'm not old enough to qualify and have the requirement for a life certificate but I am going to go get one anyway so I can show the next bloke who tells me to "go get a life ar...le" that I officially do have one. :D

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Post by Khun Paul » October 1, 2014, 4:07 pm

Life certificates normally state what if any form of identification the requesting agency wants checked. Normally passport will suffice as that is an easily recognisable document issued by the persons government and those details CAN be checked in your own country by those pension providers.

Any othjer documentation to my mind is an invasion of your privacy and I would decline vehemently. All the life certificate states that the person is alive not where he lives or whether he has a visa or anything lese. having done so many in the UK about one a week for 30 odd years then I can tell you where a person lives is not required, whatever the Thai Police state . Trust me I am a policeman doesn't wash with me .

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Post by rick » October 1, 2014, 5:55 pm

I think these days they just ask your bank in the UK if your still alive (if your pension is paid into a UK bank). I haven't been asked for a proof of life and i retired in 2007.

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Post by BossHogg69 » October 1, 2014, 5:59 pm

I retired 6 years ago at 55 and get several every year, very easy a friend signs with his passport number and all good. No big deal.

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Post by stattointhailand » October 1, 2014, 10:24 pm

I'm a bit confused over this "a friend did it" bit.
What "official stamp" does a friend use to confirm that they are a JP/Doctor/Policeman etc etc :-k
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Post by BossHogg69 » October 2, 2014, 6:34 am

No official stamp required for my pension providers

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Post by mortsyn » October 2, 2014, 6:28 pm

The Tourist Police organization's main objective is to serve tourists and support the tourist industry in Thailand. It is not in their main objective to support foreigners living permanently in Thailand, like most of you on the forum as well as me, I guess. Of course when things happen, the first questions to ask is not what kind of status or visa a person has, so in practice, all foreigners are supported.

The Tourist Police Volunteer Team has asked the Tourist Police in Udon Thani to sign Life Cerificates as a service to all foreigners living in the district. The signed cerificates and copies of requested documents are filed to be used when pension institutes do their random follow up checks. To make that process simple, fast, and easy, the address is requested at signature time.

To cover costs for signing, filing, and follow up, a service charge of 300baht was decided and the surplus go into the charity pot used for all the charity events that Tourist Police do in schools and other places. As it is not a main duty, no receipt is given.

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Post by Khun Paul » October 3, 2014, 5:20 am

How interesting accounts of the charity are available one presumes. To charge for a form which in most countries is free is unacceptable. Keeping documents relating to people just for possible future checks does not wash witrh me and ex-police officer.
I will still use the Amphur if I need one, as although I recognise the Good service you provide to tourists, as you said you are NOT there primarily to help foreigners living permanently, so I will decline your offers and exorbitant cost thanks. Also next time as a long term resident one of the TPV comes up and preaches to me, do we say , ' We are long term residents please go away '

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Post by bumper » October 3, 2014, 9:05 am

boes wrote:
Alchai wrote:Can someone explain what a "Life Certificate" is? :-k
When you receive pension from at least Denmark and Sweden you are required to prove that you are still alive....once a year
I get one each year from Social security in America. But all I have to do is fill it out myself and send it back. I have had to have one signed by an Attorney friend no charge. But, he is a friend and that came from CALPERS.
I reserve the right to be wrong, mispell words type badly. leave words out of sentences because my mind works faster then my fingers. To be an OLD GIT I've earned it

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