forgot to mention , you can also read some info here ...
http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/p ... ol#p343224
and harry 220.000 baht for a( plastic ) , fiber glass tub ? ...
if you do buy this make sure they use the zeolite in the filter and not sand ....as info

thanks for the advise
what is the problem with sand?

sand is the most bad filtration system compared to DE and zeolite/zelbrite ..
you can easy find the info on the net , fe http://www.poolcenter.com/filter
i am ok with my DE filter which gives me almost no maintenance and always clean water , but maybe i will switch to a sandfilter ( housing) filled with zeolite , as these filters are way cheaper than the DE and apparently the filtering is even better ..., i have a friend using a sand filter for his 10x5 m pool and he has continuously many problems with the waterquality...

My house build starts mid-November, after months of looking round and rejecting a lot of builders - fortunately including those named here, as well as all those based in Loei.

Obviously I can't recommend a builder based on how I'm hoping they'll do so all I'll say before then is do all the research you can, particularly if you're not going to be able to supervise and check yourself. Photos and progress reports from the builders are simply a waste of time as they will obviously not show the real story of bad workmanship and shortcuts. and once a step is complete you have no idea if your foundations are at the correct depth (or even exist, literally!), if concrete has been compacted and allowed to cure properly. etc,

After an appaling experience with one construction company from Loei, who initially seemed capable and competent but turmed out to be neither, all I can say is look and ask around and make sure that you check your contract carefully and never pay mpre tham 10% per step - if that's not acceptable, just go elsewhere.

near the end of our build..using old village builders, ex BKK builder..would not recommend them unless you want cheap and middle of the road concrete house..good with concrete but cant hang a door, ( until I pulled them up) and they never think of the little things..keeping pipes straight, downpipes neat and tidy, wall plugs and electrics tidy, ..there are that many lights in our lounge we could hold a Kiss concert..this is what I have had to continually drill into the missus..neat lines and tidy finish, and at the end it still will have its downfalls, but one comes to terms with it.....the sub contractors can be hopeless...some are not trained, just pick up the trade to make money..my aluminium window dude is one of these..he put the sliders on the outside so any Joe Blogg could simply lift them out and climb inside..had to get him to completely re do them, at his expense...

yes for those thinkiing of building..you must do your homework, not just go on couple of threads like mind, but search Coolthaihouse, and other sites and seek advice and comments on ever factor of the build..but then also be on site..watch them everyday...

Hello ladies and gent ,
does anybody of you have some experience with NYJ-house builder .
The website of them looks pretty good but i need some practical facts apart from the advertising webpage .
Apreciate any notice . Not hesitate to PM me .
Thank you in advance .

Read what was written earlier in this thread, and in similar threads here and in other forums.

I am starting my build in a month with an Udon-based company and will give a recommendation once I see how things go.

DO NOT use NYJ builders or any of the associated companies (Perfect House is one of them).
A couple of years ago my fiance contracted them to build her house. The salesmanship was very good, nice models and plans etc. Unfortunately I was busy working overseas and couldn't get to Udon for the vital meetings and to vet the company.
The guys they sent to do the building work were absolute monkeys. As soon as I saw the standard of work I knew it had to be pulled down and redone. At this stage a lot of money had already been paid out. The work was so bad it was dangerous...

We terminated NYJ and tried to get my fiance's money back. The owner wasn't playing ball but luckily I have some connections with fairly influential people in Bangkok. A few phone calls were made between Bangkok and Udon and we found out a lot about the owner - including that she had money problems (for example we found that she'd bought a personal license plate number for 1M baht at an auction and been unable to pay for it. We also found that she was making a forced sale of an apartment block she'd speculatively built). Anyway, the upshot was that we were able to bring some pressure to bear from BKK and my fiance got some money back but was still out of pocket by 500,000THB (the company had almost no assets we could go after). This episode caused my fiance severe depression for about a year because she is by no means wealthy and the money represented many years of saving.
Fortunately she had enough money remaining to complete the build herself and out of sympathy I chipped-in for a few of the internal fixtures and fittings. The whole episode did wipe her out financially though. Not only that but I think she feels very stupid for using NYJ and having placed too much trust in the owner - its really knocked her self-confidence. I would not like anyone else to go through the same experience.

MrFixer wrote:.....As soon as I saw the standard of work I knew it had to be pulled down and redone. At this stage a lot of money had already been paid out. The work was so bad it was dangerous...

... and my fiance got some money back but was still out of pocket by 500,000THB .

You mean she paid some hundred thousand baht in advance or in the early phase unil the bad standard was discernible?

Always agree on rates according to predefined stages of building. This is the normal way - also among Thai.

Yes, phased payments were made and groundwork, roof etc were constructed. It wasn't until I arrived and inspected the work that the full horror of the situation became evident.
Basically she was out of her depth and far too trusting....

My build is to be with Nuja Land & House, with whom I'm VERY impressed so far - not pushy over payments / contracts, happy with staged payments of 5 or 10% a step, excellent ideas over improving the architect's plans (drawn by another company) without increasing the price, reasonable price from the start, happy to show me some very nice houses he has built over 25 years, happy to come all the way from Udon to Loei to build, the owner/boss (Khun Anucha) speaks excellent English, plans (promises?) to be on site renting a room locally for at least the first 3 months of the build, etc.

So far, compared to the last disaster we had from a company in Loei, its night and day, but obviously it could all change once the build starts so wait and see for a couple of months.

The only thing I'm surprised with is that while other Udon building construction companies (proper companies with websites and an office) all have mentions on various forums (all bad, pretty well without exception) so far no-one has said anything about Nuja Land & House. Be patient!!

Well, the build's started albeit so far only with the piling (42 x 8m piles), but I continue to be impressed. Knowledgeable, experienced, totally professional, and a genuine pleasure to work with.

Its early days, but after the last "builders" (bad plans, poorly engineered, structurally unsound, sub contracted to short-term locals who freely admitted they had no relevant experience, who took short-cuts at every opportunity and claimed they were told to do so, supervised / visited very occasionally by a young project manager with no experience at all and less knowledge), they are off to the best possible start.

Very impressed indeed. More later as the build continues.

JohnG wrote: The only thing I'm surprised with is that while other Udon building construction companies (proper companies with websites and an office) all have mentions on various forums (all bad, pretty well without exception) so far no-one has said anything about Nuja Land & House. Be patient!!

Astonishing indeed, They claim to have accomplished houses such as the one shown.
And of course they have a website - as the others have too.
http://nlh-udonhousebuilder.com/index.html

So no need to be cryptic in any way.

They have invited comments since months but didn't get one.

Maybe, they are more successful this time.

waanjai wrote:

JohnG wrote: The only thing I'm surprised with is that while other Udon building construction companies (proper companies with websites and an office) all have mentions on various forums (all bad, pretty well without exception) so far no-one has said anything about Nuja Land & House. Be patient!!

Astonishing indeed, They claim to have accomplished houses such as the one shown.

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And of course they have a website - as the others have too.
http://nlh-udonhousebuilder.com/index.html

So no need to be cryptic in any way.

They have invited comments since months but didn't get one.

Maybe, they are more successful this time.

I don't understand what you mean by "no need to be cryptic in any way.

I wasn't being cryptic.

As for Nuja's "claim, I don't know what you mean by "accomplished" that house, but it was one they showed me which they had built, including looking

Sorry, only part of my post above worked and I can't edit it so I'll post it again:

waanjai wrote:

JohnG wrote: The only thing I'm surprised with is that while other Udon building construction companies (proper companies with websites and an office) all have mentions on various forums (all bad, pretty well without exception) so far no-one has said anything about Nuja Land & House. Be patient!!

Astonishing indeed, They claim to have accomplished houses such as the one shown.

h25.jpg

And of course they have a website - as the others have too.
http://nlh-udonhousebuilder.com/index.html

So no need to be cryptic in any way.

They have invited comments since months but didn't get one.

Maybe, they are more successful this time.

I don't understand what you mean by "no need to be cryptic in any way".

I wasn't being cryptic. I was asking if anyone knew anything about them, and apparently nobody did (or does).

As for Nuja's "claim", I don't know what you mean by they"accomplished" that house, but it was one they showed me around in Udon near their office which they had built, including looking around the inside, talking to the owners, etc.

My house is being built in Loei province so a couple of hours from Udon, but its relatively easy to find as its near a major tourist attraction so if anyone's interested in building in Loei, Udon or Khon Kaen they're welcome to drop by and see the progress once there's a bit more to see. I don't see much point in posting pictures (and its too much like hard work!) as its a relatively straightforward build so the actual construction side is pretty straightforward, but I'll post recommendations as it progresses; when I was looking for a builder the response, as I said, was nil apart from ones to avoid so hopefully this may help someone who's in much the same position as I was.

I'm not being funny (I seldom am) but I genuinely don't understand what point you're trying to make here.

JohnG wrote:I don't understand what you mean by "no need to be cryptic in any way".

I was somewhat surprised that You did not give their website and other links, so that people could check these out.
Done that.

JohnG wrote: I don't know what you mean by they"accomplished" that house...

Prolly the same what they mean when they write: "Please find below some examples of the houses we have accomplished or are still under construction." on their website.
http://nlh-udonhousebuilder.com/index.html

JohnG wrote:My house is being built in Loei province so a couple of hours from Udon, but its relatively easy to find as its near a major tourist attraction so if anyone's interested in building in Loei, Udon or Khon Kaen they're welcome to drop by and see the progress once there's a bit more to see. I don't see much point in posting pictures (and its too much like hard work!) as its a relatively straightforward build so the actual construction side is pretty straightforward, but I'll post recommendations as it progresses;

Thanks for sharing your experience, looking forward to seeing how you house progresses in future posts.

What is the size of the house your building and what's the estimated cost?

waanjai wrote:

JohnG wrote:I don't understand what you mean by "no need to be cryptic in any way".

I was somewhat surprised that You did not give their website and other links, so that people could check these out.
Done that.

I didn't give their website or other links when I asked if anyone had any experience of them because if they had had any such experience they wouldn't have needed to look them up!

Not giving them when I gave a recommendation on their work so far wasn't being "cryptic", it was simply crediting those interested reading this forum with enough intelligence to do a simple search.

As for "accomplishing" houses, Khun Anucha's English is very good indeed (considerably better than any other construction company I have come across in three provinces) but its not word-perfect fluent, hence my querying your out-of-context use of the word which could have had some "cryptic" meaning; evidently there was none.

Jello wrote:

JohnG wrote:Thanks for sharing your experience, looking forward to seeing how you house progresses in future posts.

What is the size of the house your building and what's the estimated cost?

I'm not planning on doing a running commentary or posting pictures as, judging by what I've seen so far, its a routine build being done properly and professionally so it shouldn't be that exciting. The site is actually very easy to find so if all continues to go as well as it has done so far I'd have no hesitation in giving an unreserved recommendation and suggesting anyone interested in building in Udon, Khon Kaen or Loei provinces gives him a call and drops by once there is rather more to see.

The house is actually two buildings, with a large garage / guest room of about 110 sqm and a main house of about 250 sqm, including verandahs, in a 'T' shape layout. Ceilings 3.20m, house 1m above ground level, CPAC roof, 8m driven piles, etc. About 360 sqm.

Total build cost will be about 4 to 4.5 million, as Nuja L&H's very reasonable build cost which doesn't include doors and windows (UPVC from a manufacturer in Loei), a/c's, fitted kitchen, tiles and fittings (although tiling and fitting is included) is 3.5 million baht. To put that into perspective I was quoted 10 million by PD House for the identical build, same spec, but including doors and windows and an amount for tiles and bathroom fittings so they are rather less than half the price of PD House.

harry68 wrote:Check with Rob

this is my quote and I'm going with it i will start building when the rain stops
cheers harry

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Hi harry
from your post i assume they are commuting to udon to build your pool did you design yourself or have they a website i could look into ?
Appreciate any info you could provide thanks mate
rodders