Never Forget.

Post by **newtovillagelife** » September 13, 2018, 2:45 pm

the-monk wrote: ↑
September 13, 2018, 2:29 pm

Sport wrote: ↑
September 13, 2018, 2:11 pm
Never forgotten and never will. RIP to all the innocents, bloody nooozlem terrorists.
YESSS << RIP to all the innocents >>
<< bloody nooozlem terrorists. >> SPORT why don t you read the Middle East history of the last 75 years ?? You will discover that The most prolific terrorist organisations have been from the USA, murdering MILLIONS of innocents.
Just few weeks ago the USA via its proxy killed dozens of INNOCENT school kids. Bloody USA terrorists.
Have a nice peaceful and safe day, away from your own terrorists...

Holy Crap don't let Lone Star see this!!!!

P.S. LS is this true???

Post by **jai yen yen** » September 16, 2018, 5:45 am

Lone Star wrote: ↑
September 12, 2018, 1:12 pm
Only losers would lack the common decency to respect the passing of innocent victims in such a tragedy and the solemn reverence that it deserves.

I was waiting for the usual suspects to turn this into yet another hate-America or hate-Trump thread. Your collective immaturity and lack of decorum makes your trashy efforts easy to predict.

Like the old saying goes, you can't fix stupid. A real tragedy, I will never forget.

Post by **papafarang** » September 16, 2018, 7:53 am

never forget ? how could anyone forget something that has caused years of death and destruction worldwide. no one ever even mentioned why the towers were attacked, civilians killed were just collateral damage as far as the attackers were concerned . the towers contained many American banks ,traders ,consultants etc.
they were the target.
ironically the attackers were mainly Saudi, financed by Saudi money. and now the west and America supply the Saudi's with bombs to blow up children on buses in Yemen. todays Washington post headline.
The Trump administration vouches for its Saudi friends as civilians die in Yemen

the continuing repercussions of 9/11

Post by **dragonz** » September 16, 2018, 3:38 pm

papafarang wrote: ↑
September 16, 2018, 7:53 am
never forget ? how could anyone forget something that has caused years of death and destruction worldwide. no one ever even mentioned why the towers were attacked, civilians killed were just collateral damage as far as the attackers were concerned . the towers contained many American banks ,traders ,consultants etc.
they were the target.
ironically the attackers were mainly Saudi, financed by Saudi money. and now the west and America supply the Saudi's with bombs to blow up children on buses in Yemen. todays Washington post headline.
The Trump administration vouches for its Saudi friends as civilians die in Yemen

the continuing repercussions of 9/11

dont only give part of the info because you hate trump , obama was also great friends of the saudis and so was nearly every president and leader of the western world including uk and they still are for oil money

Post by **GT93** » September 17, 2018, 3:53 pm

Yes, it's amazing how little blowback came to the Saudis.

I understand there are a minority of Americans who think it was an inside job carried out by the American government. Presumably that view is seen as repulsive to ordinary Americans?

Post by **runrunshaw** » September 17, 2018, 7:04 pm

newtovillagelife wrote: ↑
September 12, 2018, 6:48 pm

Lone Star wrote: ↑
September 12, 2018, 1:12 pm

Well at least we turned up....Nobody else paying their respects????? Shame on them.....
Allow me to pay my respects and relate the following:

I flew from Ulan Bator, Mongolia to Tokyo on September 5, 2001. On the 6th, I toured the Kitty Hawk which was then berthed at the U.S. Naval Base in Yokosuka, 90 minutes south of Tokyo. I had several meetings at the base and enjoyed an evening on The Haunch.

Then, on the front pages of the English-language newspapers in Japan and South Korea (I believe this was September 7, 2001) there were articles warning Americans to avoid patronizing restaurants, bars, and any venues known to be frequented by Americans. Front page, above the fold, of every English-language newspaper. At the time, my local expat friends said it was unheard of.

The base at Yokosuka went on high alert and sailors and marines were confined to quarters. I don't know if the same thing happened at other U.S bases in Japan, but I took the train back down from where I was staying in Roppongi to see for myself: the base was locked up tight and my remaining meetings cancelled. The Haunch was deserted.

I returned to Tokyo with a bad feeling. I absolutely love Japan, especially Tokyo, but I called Korean Air and changed my return flight to Los Angeles. I was ticketed to fly out of Narita on September 11, 2001, but instead arrived home on September 10th. I woke up jet-lagged the next morning when a ringing phone brought the news of what was happening in New York City and elsewhere.

Shell-shocked, my Chinese-American wife and I could only think to find our American flag; I planted it next to the curb. Within an hour, every house on our cul-de-sac had done the same. Democrats, Republicans, independents, Mexican-American, Chinese-American, whatever.

U.S. Intelligence strongly suspected we were going to get hit, but mistakenly thought it would be in Asia, and not the homeland. They had the timing right, but didn't know the target.

Back in Cali I have a copy of the newspaper article from Japan, but maybe this info can be found via Goggle. It was briefly reported in the aftermath of 9/11, but quickly forgotten.

Anyway, R.I.P. to those who perished on 9/11--especially the First Responders. Condolences to the families who lost loved ones.

Post by **Lone Star** » September 11, 2019, 2:17 pm

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9-11 . . . Patriot Day

To all my brothers at NYPD First Precinct and FDNY Dean Street Brooklyn - Engine 219 & Ladder 105 who survived that day, Hang tuff.

Never Forget.

Post by **Lone Star** » September 12, 2019, 5:33 am

"The Falling Man" - The Most Powerful Image of 9-11

Post by **saint** » September 12, 2019, 9:00 am

I cant believe it was 18 years ago . Time sure does fly as you get older .
I remember i had a layover at JFK in the December after 9 11 , to say security was tight is an understatement .
Unfortunately too little , too late in my opinion .

Post by **glalt** » September 12, 2019, 10:09 am

At that time I was on a business trip to Chicago. I was living in the Los Angeles area. There was no way to get a flight back to Los Angeles. Fortunately I had a friend who lived in Chicago. Since I was lucky enough to have a rental car, he found me a motel room outside the city. The rental car company was repeatedly calling me demanding that I immediately return the car. That wasn't going to happen. I was born and raised in Ohio so I drove to my parents home and stayed until flights became available. Nearly every car and truck on the roads were flying the flag, big flags and small flags. After the dust settled, the overwhelming feeling among everyone I talked to was a thirst for revenge. The country was truly united.

Post by **colt1911** » September 12, 2019, 10:41 am

Thanks Lone Star. I will never forget.

Post by **Old Grumpy** » September 12, 2019, 11:17 am

Without wishing to diminish the atrocity of 7/11, it was just one event on a single day, when I saw the topic title it reminded me of my own "Never Forget" anniversary, not 19 years ago but 79, coincidentally this very same date almost ,15/9/40 to be exact, the day that the Nazis started mass bombing of British cities in what would be known forever as the Blitz. I was just 5 years old, my father and elder brother were already in the army, serving somewhere in Europe, I was at home with my mother and teenage sister in our 4th floor home in a tenement block in central London , when the air raid sirens went but before we could make our way down and into the shelters the planes were overhead, it seems almost instantly that the bombs were going off, my mum shepherd us all under the big old kitchen table we had , an action that saved all our lives , don't remember much detail what happened then just that I was aware we were buried in what was the rubble of our buildings, we could hear a hissing noise and my mum was worried it might be a broken gas pipe, luckily it turned out to be water escaping .We stayed like that for what turned out to be almost 24hours when a rescue dog started barking and we could hear digging, our family was safe but 15 of our neighbours weren't so lucky, they died instantly.That was my own 15/11 but it wasn't just one day but the start of four more years experiencing night after night, the sound of the sirens then the drone of the bombers before the multi explosions going off around us, never knowing what sight awaited us when we emerged from our holes in the ground the next morning. Never forget, how could you, to this day I am terrified of being in an enclosed space .

Post by **stattointhailand** » September 12, 2019, 12:33 pm

"Without wishing to diminish the atrocity of 7/11, it was just one event on a single day,"

You have been listening to Donald Trump again haven't you

Post by **Lone Star** » September 12, 2019, 1:04 pm

glalt wrote: ↑
September 12, 2019, 10:09 am
At that time I was on a business trip to Chicago. I was living in the Los Angeles area. There was no way to get a flight back to Los Angeles. Fortunately I had a friend who lived in Chicago. Since I was lucky enough to have a rental car, he found me a motel room outside the city. The rental car company was repeatedly calling me demanding that I immediately return the car. That wasn't going to happen. I was born and raised in Ohio so I drove to my parents home and stayed until flights became available. Nearly every car and truck on the roads were flying the flag, big flags and small flags. After the dust settled, the overwhelming feeling among everyone I talked to was a thirst for revenge. The country was truly united.

Great story, glalt.

Post by **Lone Star** » September 12, 2019, 1:07 pm

Old Grumpy wrote: ↑
September 12, 2019, 11:17 am
. . .
my own "Never Forget" anniversary, not 19 years ago but 79, coincidentally this very same date almost ,15/9/40 to be exact, the day that the Nazis started mass bombing of British cities in what would be known forever as the Blitz.
. . .

Hat tip to you, Old Grumpy. Great story and much respect.

Post by **Old Grumpy** » September 12, 2019, 1:10 pm

stattointhailand wrote: ↑
September 12, 2019, 12:33 pm
"Without wishing to diminish the atrocity of 7/11, it was just one event on a single day,"

You have been listening to Donald Trump again haven't you

No just putting it in perspective in the overall scheme of things.

Post by **Lone Star** » September 12, 2019, 1:17 pm

I only recently became aware of this.

Two fighter jets were sent up to take down the last remaining commercial airliner that eventually crashed in Pennsylvania. Those two fighter jets were unarmed. They had no weapons. Because it takes an hour to load weapons, there was no time to waste. The fighter jets had to get airborne and engage the airliner before it got to Washington DC. Those two pilots would have had to take down that commercial airliner by flying their fighter jets -- one into the tail and one into the nose. There was a possibility that they would not be able to finish the mission and also eject.

Post by **Old Grumpy** » September 12, 2019, 2:33 pm

Lone Star wrote: ↑
September 12, 2019, 1:17 pm
I only recently became aware of this.
Two fighter jets were sent up to take down the last remaining commercial airliner that eventually crashed in Pennsylvania. Those two fighter jets were unarmed. They had no weapons. Because it takes an hour to load weapons, there was no time to waste. The fighter jets had to get airborne and engage the airliner before it got to Washington DC. Those two pilots would have had to take down that commercial airliner by flying their fighter jets -- one into the tail and one into the nose. There was a possibility that they would not be able to finish the mission and also eject.

Can you elaborate on where you got this info and what actually happened. Did they take off for the mission ? I am particularly interested as being an ex member of a RAF fighter squadron, okay long before this incident, but I don't see why things have changed, we were always rearmed , refuelled and ready to go within minutes of landing from a previous mission .I really find it hard to believe that the USAF with it's multi fire power available didn't have the same coverage for one of its major cities. If it had been London there would have been 2 whole squadrons in the air in minutes. Find it very hard to believe that you didn't .Please posters don't let this turn into another them and us topic, my interest is a genuine concern .

Post by **Lone Star** » September 12, 2019, 2:47 pm

Old Grumpy wrote: ↑
September 12, 2019, 2:33 pm
Can you elaborate on where you got this info and what actually happened. Did they take off for the mission ? I am particularly interested as being an ex member of a RAF fighter squadron, okay long before this incident, but I don't see why things have changed, we were always rearmed , refuelled and ready to go within minutes of landing from a previous mission .I really find it hard to believe that the USAF with it's multi fire power available didn't have the same coverage for one of its major cities. If it had been London there would have been 2 whole squadrons in the air in minutes. Find it very hard to believe that you didn't .Please posters don't let this turn into another them and us topic, my interest is a genuine concern .

On 9-11, three commercial airlines had already hit their targets -- the WTC towers and the Pentagon. The fourth airliner traveled too far southwest before turning around to the target that was suspected as being the White House or the Capitol Building.

Because all air traffic had responded and had been grounded or in the process of being grounded, the fourth airliner was the only one not responding to air traffic control and headed back toward Washington DC.

Fighter jets were scrambled to intercept it and take it out, but they didn't have time to arm. They needed to get into the air and take down the fourth commercial airliner by ramming it.

Major Heather "Lucky" Penney's story
https://www.militarytimes.com/2016/09/1 ... e-on-9-11/

With news of a fourth airliner possibly headed toward Washington, Penney and her wingman, Colonel Marc "Sass" Sasseville, scramble-started their F-16s and took off to intercept it.

Their mission was simple but sobering: Find the airliner and take it down by any means necessary. Since there had been no time to arm their F-16s, that essentially meant they would be flying a kamikaze mission, ramming their jets into the airliner. "I'm going to go for the cockpit," Sass told her. "I'll take the tail," Lucky replied.

Post by **vlad** » September 12, 2019, 3:48 pm

Conspiracy Theorist's have questioned that all is not as it was like. Firemen spoke to camera saying Explosions were heare'd before the Towers fell an hour after the planes hit, and on impact the Aircraft disintegrated due to the high impact speed and heat generated that caused the Aluminium skin turning to liquid that was visible pouring down on the outside of the Building and 60 tons of plane wreckage never found.

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