..I think he meant "some" westerners on holiday etc etc".

Maybe you see it that way arjay, I dont. I also see it as an attack on white men, as we do have western black, brown and oriental men and not forgetting the middle eastern men that visit these shores.
Perhaps we can wait and see if an explanation comes forth as I feel it is a racist remark and expect a retraction and apology.
I am not in the bracket he describes and I would not judge on colour as all nations have there good and what he see as bad.
If I am being unfair I wait to be shown the error of my way, I am not flaming I think the comment is racist and it is in an open forum.

Ter wrote:Maybe you see it that way arjay, I dont. I also see it as an attack on white men, as we do have western black, brown and oriental men and not forgetting the middle eastern men that visit these shores.
Perhaps we can wait and see if an explanation comes forth as I feel it is a racist remark and expect a retraction and apology.
I am not in the bracket he describes and I would not judge on colour as all nations have there good and what he see as bad.
If I am being unfair I wait to be shown the error of my way, I am not flaming I think the comment is racist and it is in an open forum.

ure joking of course Ter, you talk about me being racist yet do not comment on this!

Typical Thai style .Pack of dogs join in on the act!

now thats insulting, calling females who were probably only helpng their mates dogs? What did the statement writer want, a one on one between a thin Thai girl and a drunk white man?

and of course i only meant some white people, Im certainly not like that, for the purpose of my post i was not referring to any other race as there were only white drunk yobs in the video, I fail to see the need to list every single nationality on earth that might visit Thailand when commenting on some drongo alkie tourist getting a minor beating for being an ass.(probably)

SO instead of an apology jek, ill go a bit further and say english, german, scandinavian, american, aussie, canadian (not so much) pack rat lads on a bender on holiday deserve all they get from locals in their own country. Who knows what this guy did to that girl. and its not only Thailand, give any yob a few bucks and they go off in any country they go to.. just go to Ibiza or Amsterdam to see what i mean

Dont even pretend you dont see it every day in the tourist areas, idiot WHITE PEOPLE acting like brainless morons attached to a beer thinking they can touch/chat up/sleep with every girl in sight....I see it in Udon all the time, I dont know his name but there is a sad old tanned skinny bald man who is like a yak on heat when he sees new girls at Mr Tongs, Ive watched him and listend to him, he is about 60 but thinks he is gods gift simply because he has cash and is white...This is the "man" who offered my g/f 5k for a shag when i went off to the toilets...Whos to say this man in the video did not do something as insulting.....Other races might well do the same, but i cant see any in that video can you?

apology, i think not

Udonchappie (white hetrosexual male) signing out to go an early evening tower

I have not read all your post as I believe you have not understood mine and have avoided your racist slur.
Enough said I will let you get back to judging people and being racist. when you have the time look at it again. I am not talking about the video or what other people say. I am talking about you being racist and seeing everything one sided, maybe you have not been here long and don't know any better, we all live and learn. Deal with your anger issues first.
I did not mention your gender so why you feel the need to say you are hetrosexual is a matter for you.

I have not read all your post

no surprise there

as I believe you have not understood mine

I understood it 100% for i have a brain

Enough said I will let you get back to judging people and being racist.

thanks very generous of you

maybe you have not been here long and don't know any better

been where? Earth? Thailand? Udon? oh, you mean this forum??? what exactly do i have to know "better" in order to be allowed freedom of speech? Do i have to be part of the "gang", do i need a pornographic degrading avatar? Do i need to bring cheese and dips to the night market get together? Do i need to put on 50 stone, triple my beer drinking and lech over waitresses? please enlighten me as to what exactly you mean my friend for i am confused.

Political correctness is total garbage my friend, and i am not politically correct at all, just a man, living in a place he is happy in, avoiding the western world as much as he can

I did not mention your gender so why you feel the need to say you are hetrosexual is a matter for you.

Hetrosexuality has nothing to do with gender, did you actually mean to say "the need to say you are male" or "i didnt mention your sexuality"

now i really must go out......

Rest my case, I don't know why you are here with other westerners then. Perhaps buy an island where you can be individual and not deal with your issues.
Go and have your beer and enjoy looking at other westerners so you can judge them. Maybe one day you will give a straight answer to a question.

udonchappie wrote: old tanned skinny bald

udonchappie wrote:and is white...

Make your mind up udonchappie...is he brown or white...

udonchappie wrote:I dont know his name but there is a sad old tanned skinny bald man who is like a yak on heat

C'mon C'mon...do you recognize yourself anyone...who are you.?...you know who you are....

The way I see it is us the "farang" have overstayed our welcome with all the persistent intolerable behavior that some bring to the land of smiles and basicly the thai people are getting fed up seeing drunk overweight men night after night horassing there own people .
I'm affraid it is easy to Stereotype and become judgemental of a race of people and to be fair the way I see it the good people of thailand have had enough of the sex tourist that persistently comes to the shores of Thailand .
when I go out I try to be a ambassador to my country of origin and behave in a polite manner . In the video i was hoping they would not stop because idiots like that need to have sence knocked into their small minded brains Thai woman are not objects they can use .

udon-tuk-tuk wrote: I'm affraid it is easy to Stereotype and become judgemental of a race of people and to be fair the way I see it the good people of thailand have had enough of the sex tourist that persistently comes to the shores of Thailand .

Mmmm isn't it the Thai's that provided such places for the 'farang sex tourists' to use at their will...for a price of course....imagine the loss of income if all places shut down.

not sure what started it, but manhandling her definitely wasn't going to solve anything, and looks as he got a well deserved knocking around. obviously out of his element, alone, and taking on the locals, not the smartest thing to do. agree, he doesn't look drunk at all, flip flop back on and walking a straight line out of dodge. the lasses know how to 'defend' themselves', some nice shots.

all the negatives about farangs, i personally have never seen any bad behavior, but i don't visit the spots where you would expect to find it. have yet to personally see any physical confrontation in thailand, by any one, any nationality. if you go looking, you will find what ever you want.

It would have sufficed to say just "disgusting men' without need to refer to any particular race because none is better or worse than the other.

I have spent more time than most in Pattaya and when my girlfriend is left on her own for more than a few minutes (whilst I go to the toilet for example) there's no end of these disgusting men trying to chat her up, ask for her telephone number, ask if she has "time for them' etc etc ....

They are all disgusting and are of all races - white black indian, middle eastern etc. Just assuming that because she is female and in Pattaya she is for sale.

They ARE disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves and perhaps the guy in the video was just like them - thought he could say or do something disgusting just because he was in Pattaya/Phuket/Bangkok or wherever it was. He didn't get kicked in the nuts for nothing

laphanphon wrote: all the negatives about farangs, i personally have never seen any bad behavior, but i don't visit the spots where you would expect to find it. have yet to personally see any physical confrontation in thailand, by any one, any nationality. if you go looking, you will find what ever you want.

Hmmmm, you don't go out much do you A lady friend of mine (a very nice lady) was at the mall with her friend when one of these disgusting bas.ards went up to her friend and tried to give her a kiss on her lips. Out of the blue. I think these people come here to take advantage of the Thai value to try to avoid confrontation, because if that was done in the US, he'd be in the hospital now I think. Whatever happens in the bars here is one thing, but this sort of behaviour happening in a very public place is way too much. I know some people here say that people should not try to be a "knight in shining armour" but if that jerk did that in front of me, I think I'd have to do something. No wonder some Thai people think we farang are all jerks. Thai people see the wrong picture of western men, because a disproportionate amount of aholes come here.... sad really.

beer monkey wrote:

udon-tuk-tuk wrote: I'm affraid it is easy to Stereotype and become judgemental of a race of people and to be fair the way I see it the good people of thailand have had enough of the sex tourist that persistently comes to the shores of Thailand .

Mmmm isn't it the Thai's that provided such places for the 'farang sex tourists' to use at their will...for a price of course....imagine the loss of income if all places shut down.

YES they do provide such places, but it gives tourists NO rite to act disgusting around the woman ,all that of a sexual nature should be done behind closed doors in the lines of the agreement between the woman and the client end of story.

obviously our udon chap is an over bearing aussie with his attitude been there done it bought the t-shirt. Am i correct udon chap, you an aussie ocker straight out of the bush.

vlad wrote:obviously our udon chap is an over bearing aussie with his attitude been there done it bought the t-shirt. Am i correct udon chap, you an aussie ocker straight out of the bush.

Actually, I thought he made a lot of sense.

But I guess I could also be accused of being an overbearing Aussie, straight out of the bush..........in complete contrast to a well educated, literate, urbane and tolerant chappie such as your self.

I assume we've finished discussing the video clip then?

Paul wrote:It would have sufficed to say just "disgusting men' without need to refer to any particular race because none is better or worse than the other.

I have spent more time than most in Pattaya and when my girlfriend is left on her own for more than a few minutes (whilst I go to the toilet for example) there's no end of these disgusting men trying to chat her up, ask for her telephone number, ask if she has "time for them' etc etc ....

They are all disgusting and are of all races - white black indian, middle eastern etc. Just assuming that because she is female and in Pattaya she is for sale.

They ARE disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves and perhaps the guy in the video was just like them - thought he could say or do something disgusting just because he was in Pattaya/Phuket/Bangkok or wherever it was. He didn't get kicked in the nuts for nothing

Could not agree more Paul, all colours are responsible. I just don't like racist slurs about white people made by a bigoted white person of this or any forum. I did not realise a racist statement was allowed at um. May I suggest if it is not in the rules it should be. As a prospective sponsor I would find it hard to live with.

Nothing wrong with coming straight out of the bush....well a finely trimmed hedge would be better....

Just assuming that because she is female and in Pattaya she is for sale.

Not only pattaya....same thing happens in Udon.

If 3 men attacked a woman like that , they would be in serious trouble, no matter what she may have done

I don't believe there was to much to him.I mean if I had used my 200 pounds and punched these women in the face it would have been over before it started.I don't give him any credit.I think ythe women did ok considering.