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Post by alanhass » February 1, 2017, 1:01 pm

JR wrote:Thanx. Pictures are deceiving on the rebar. We also used rebar 16 for our house. We elevated the floor about 80cm and used concrete planks resting on the beams. Then concrete was poured over the planks to form floor surface. Bathrooms have rebar in cross pattern for extra strength.
Would u not be afraid of degradation in the planks?
As they wear away the concrete would sink?



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Post by JR » February 1, 2017, 1:19 pm

How would the planks degrade? There is no wear and tear on them. They are reinforced with 7 rebars and the ends rest on beams.

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Post by alanhass » February 1, 2017, 2:35 pm

JR wrote:How would the planks degrade? There is no wear and tear on them. They are reinforced with 7 rebars and the ends rest on beams.
Wood rots over time


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Post by BobHelm » February 1, 2017, 2:44 pm

I think that you have misunderstood the use of the word 'planks'.
There is no wood involved. The planks are made of reinforced formed cement & are designed to fit over the support beams.
The completed bed is then covered with a layer of concrete to give a smooth surface.
The supplier delivers on a lorry with an attached hoist & the floor is laid straight from the back of the vehicle. A very fast, efficient & strong method of laying suspended floors..

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Post by JR » February 1, 2017, 4:50 pm

Thank you Bob. That is how it is. I did say they are concrete planks.
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Post by alanhass » February 1, 2017, 5:23 pm

JR wrote:Thank you Bob. That is how it is. I did say they are concrete planks.
CIMG3394.JPG

Never heard of a concrete plank ImageImage
I guess it's a Thai thing. I would have said beam but hey what would I know Image


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Post by sometimewoodworker » February 2, 2017, 8:43 pm

alanhass wrote:Forgot to mention that the well is now dug and we hit lovely clear water at 18 meters.
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Another point is that you are just at the end of the rainy season and 18 meters is very shallow to have got down to an all-round-year aquifer. You could easily be down to a seasonal level, only time will tell. But good luck with it.
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Post by sometimewoodworker » February 2, 2017, 8:55 pm

alanhass wrote:
JR wrote:Thank you Bob. That is how it is. I did say they are concrete planks.CIMG3394.JPG
Never heard of a concrete plank ImageImage
I guess it's a Thai thing. I would have said beam but hey what would I know Image
It isn't a specially Thai thing, they have been used in the USA and U.K. for the last 60+years Also the shape makes them planks. To be beams they would need to be a vertically oriented rectangle
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Post by alanhass » February 2, 2017, 8:59 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote:
JR wrote:Thank you Bob. That is how it is. I did say they are concrete planks.CIMG3394.JPG
Never heard of a concrete plank ImageImage
I guess it's a Thai thing. I would have said beam but hey what would I know Image
It isn't a specially Thai thing, they have been used in the USA and U.K. for the last 60+years Also the shape makes them planks. To be beams they would need to be a vertically oriented rectangle

I am neither American nor English and have never heard of them. I asked a few builders I know and they have never heard of them
either but who cares as long as they do the job Image
Being concrete we would call it a slab


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Post by alanhass » February 2, 2017, 9:01 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote:Forgot to mention that the well is now dug and we hit lovely clear water at 18 meters.
Happy days

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Another point is that you are just at the end of the rainy season and 18 meters is very shallow to have got down to an all-round-year aquifer. You could easily be down to a seasonal level, only time will tell. But good luck with it.

A fair point.
Anything is possible but hopefully we are ok.
It's been bone dry here for a month and the level hasn't changed even though we are using well over average amounts with the build going on. There are builders using it for showers as well as all the building work and we also use it for the veggies.


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sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote:Forgot to mention that the well is now dug and we hit lovely clear water at 18 meters.
Happy days

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Another point is that you are just at the end of the rainy season and 18 meters is very shallow to have got down to an all-round-year aquifer. You could easily be down to a seasonal level, only time will tell. But good luck with it.
Our well was drilled 18 years ago. The driller punched through rock a few meters down and hit water........the same water that runs out from beneath a rock 30 or so meters away. I've measured the level of the water several times over the course of the years.....dry season, wet season....the level doesn't change. If you hit good water, consider it a blessing and leave a treat for the spirits that look over your land (or not). I've known lots of folks who have had bum wells, no matter how deep they go.

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Post by alanhass » February 2, 2017, 9:08 pm

parrot wrote:
sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote:Forgot to mention that the well is now dug and we hit lovely clear water at 18 meters.
Happy days

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Another point is that you are just at the end of the rainy season and 18 meters is very shallow to have got down to an all-round-year aquifer. You could easily be down to a seasonal level, only time will tell. But good luck with it.
Our well was drilled 18 years ago. The driller punched through rock a few meters down and hit water........the same water that runs out from beneath a rock 30 or so meters away. I've measured the level of the water several times over the course of the years.....dry season, wet season....the level doesn't change. If you hit good water, consider it a blessing and leave a treat for the spirits that look over your land (or not). I've known lots of folks who have had bum wells, no matter how deep they go.

Believe me there were gifts to Buddha that day because a friend of mine had to go 90 meters to get a damp spot.



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Post by sometimewoodworker » February 2, 2017, 9:09 pm

alanhass wrote: I am neither American nor English and have never heard of them. I asked a few builders I know and they have never heard of them
either but who cares as long as they do the job Image
Being concrete we would call it a slab
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Some information of one kind is at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-core_slab
And
http://www.floorspan.co.uk/?p=solid.hollowcore.planks
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Post by alanhass » February 2, 2017, 9:30 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote: I am neither American nor English and have never heard of them. I asked a few builders I know and they have never heard of them
either but who cares as long as they do the job Image
Being concrete we would call it a slab
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Some information of one kind is at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-core_slab
And
http://www.floorspan.co.uk/?p=solid.hollowcore.planks
No offence mate but I am not really interested as it's nothing to do with my build but thanks anyway.


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Post by alanhass » February 2, 2017, 9:32 pm

alanhass wrote:
sometimewoodworker wrote:
alanhass wrote: I am neither American nor English and have never heard of them. I asked a few builders I know and they have never heard of them
either but who cares as long as they do the job Image
Being concrete we would call it a slab
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Some information of one kind is at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow-core_slab
And
http://www.floorspan.co.uk/?p=solid.hollowcore.planks
No offence mate but I am not really interested as it's nothing to do with my build but thanks anyway.
Here is a pic of a concrete SLAB .
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