Hehe, its the sneeze guard that everyone leans under & the general cleanliness of the utensils that gets me.
If like me, the bar is set pretty low, at least you can count on it no matter where you are in the world

Personally, I think Pizza Hut is the worst of the chain outlets, more so with the heavily adulterated recipes to suit local tastes. Pizza Company offers less buggered up basics and of course Domino's isn't even on the Udon radar.

I am all for the local mom and pop pizzeria but I think there's more than a few members who, when seeking a pizza 'here and now', have ventured to any one of the past and existing local providers and find they are either closed, their particular selection isn't available that day, service was dire or the final product was rather... meh. That's the problem with doing foreign food in Udon and any other provincial town; lack of consistency. Consistency comes from having a steady demand for set products. Pizza Co/Hut, etc., may be serving a tasty but rather mediocre pizza in a rather sterile environment but they are open when you want it and have what you want. The staff generally have a clue about what they are selling as well.

the-monk wrote:

fatbob wrote: Yes there is, many, why not throw your support behind the small family business where goods are purchased locally which helps everyone locally???.

Ok why don t you give us names and adresses of local suppliers/shops that you patronize !!! Personally i shop LOCAL...when i say local i mean Thai shops. Whenever the quality or the price do not meet my expectations i simply do not buy. Few times i had the opportunity to try pizzas from local stores, or frozen pizzas or supermarket pizzas and none came close to what i call a pizza.
BTW today at Tops supermarket in the bakery section there is a company promoting a new thin-crust pizza.

You obviously don't get out much, a frozen supermarket pizza is not for me, I'm talking freshly made in a restaurant...When I say local I mean Thai and Western, covering all those that have made this wonderful place home,,, each to there own though but I will always throw my support to those individuals that have a go, Thai or Westerners.

If they do deliveries outside the ring road I'm all for it

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Fortunately for me I've eaten in some of the finest restaurants in the world, some of which to be honest have been a complete disappointment, indeed I've eaten in a couple of the most highly rated restaurants in UT and frankly they were complete and utter crap so sometimes supporting the local businesses backfires big time. Frozen pizza is okay, it is what it is, and I would rather eat a Dr Oetker pizza than be subjected to some of the nonsense I've been presented with by some of the vendors here.

For me the secret of a good pizza is in the cheese used. I understand Pizza hut use a dry mozzarella which is how the original Italian version is made. According to the attached article many places use fake cheese, even fake ham, whilst these may appear to look good, the test is in the taste. I have tried some of the locally produced ones , both chain and private places and whilst I am no expert gourmet it is obvious some are taking the short cut to higher profitability by using substitute (fake) products.Maybe we should ask first before buying?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/04/one-in-fo ... e-6169666/

Absolutely right Truebrit, I've been served some really nasty pizza here in Udon Thani (please note this isn't an invitation for a sponsor to add his menu) and it's almost definitely down to rubbish ingredients. What some of these people need to understand is that chains whether it be Mc Donald's, KFC, Pizza Hut etc become chains because they produce people what want to eat, of course this might not suit the sensibilities of some of the apparent gourmands on this forum but it's fact, you don't get to be a multi billion pound chain without getting something right.

Pizza Hut offers a quality product. I look forward to their opening.

Pizza Hut Unveils Big Changes to Chain’s Ingredient List
On Tuesday, the chain – owned by Yum Brands (yum, +0.77%) – outlined four big changes to its list of ingredients that will occur starting this summer and continue through 2020. They are:

Removing food additives BHA and BHT from all meats by the end of July
Eliminating use of preservatives in cheese by the end of March 2017
Human antibiotics will be removed from chicken used for its pizza by the end of March 2017
Stripping additional additives and preservatives by 2020.
"It is important to know what's in your food and we want to be clean and clear about what's in it," says Jeff Fox, chief brand and concept officer at Pizza Hut.
http://fortune.com/2016/05/31/pizza-hut ... gredients/

#1 pizza in the US. =D>
http://www.pizzatoday.com/pizzeria-rank ... companies/

Jello wrote: ...
#1 pizza in the US. =D>
http://www.pizzatoday.com/pizzeria-rank ... companies/

You are confusing "the biggest" with "the best."

But like many things when it comes to food, it is a matter of personal choice and not necessarily taste.

Disagree mate, the BEST pizza in the USA is from the oven grinder in Chicago, if it was good enough for Al Capone.... .But of course it's a matter of taste, I wouldn't eat somewhere if the food was crap just because it a large chain. Pizza GoGo, Ask Italian and Pizza Express in the UK knock spots off of Pizza Hut though IMO.

tamada wrote: You are confusing "the biggest" with "the best."

But like many things when it comes to food, it is a matter of personal choice and not necessarily taste.

#1 pizza chain. But yes, when in the US (and spoiled for choice on pizza) there are other places I would go to, but here in Udon Pizza Hut is a welcome addition for my personal tastes.

Biggest, definitely not best in US.

vincemunday wrote:... of course this might not suit the sensibilities of some of the apparent gourmands on this forum but it's fact, you don't get to be a multi billion pound chain without getting something right.

Well, yes, but the fact that a product appeals to millions does not mean that it's necessarily going to appeal to me or that it maintains any particular level of quality. It means simply that it appeals to lots of people, whose taste may or may not be similar to mine.

vincemunday wrote:Disagree mate, the BEST pizza in the USA is from the oven grinder in Chicago, if it was good enough for Al Capone....

You have to like Chicago-style pizza for that, and I don't particularly. I much prefer a thinner, crispy crust, but still with some heft to it, particularly around the edges. Soggy crusts don't do it for me at all.
Chicago-style pizza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza.


Udon has numerous places which sell pizza; some I like more than others. Actually, I don't have a single favorite place, -- several places here sell pizzas which I quite like. Generally, I prefer thinner pizza, with a crispy crust. Quality ingredients always help, too. At least one pizza vendor in Udon imports its own cheese from Italy. It's true that I tend to have a bias against large restaurant chains for several reasons, ingredient quality being one of the major ones. That said, Capital Grille in the U.S. is a large (currently 54 locations) red meat, slab-o-beef chain which maintains excellent standards of quality and preparation in all of its products; so there are exceptions to my rule! On the other hand, it's sufficiently pricey that I go there verrry rarely. http://www.thecapitalgrille.com/home

As I said in my earlier post, it's all about personal taste, it's great you've found good pizza and I know the place you are talking about, I'll give the pizza a go next time I'm in there.

vincemunday!
Wow man, you seem to think you know a lot about pizza! What exactly is it that makes you such a pizza "expert"? Have you owned a pizzeria? Or a chain of them? Do you make pizzas at home? Have you eaten at every pizzeria on the planet? Just curious.
I'm pretty certain you haven't had a pizza at either of my shops; Brooklyn's or the ROCKHOUSE.
Frozen dough??? Fake cheese??? Do people really serve this stuff to customers??? Yes they do!
Most think because the eat pizza they know what makes a great pizza. Others (chains) can in no way compete when it comes to quality with small shops. FACT!
My pizzas are hand made from scratch the minute they're ordered. Fresh dough, fresh real mozz, fresh ingredients bought daily at the local market, and REAL pepperoni! Not salami used for pepperoni. The trick though to great pizza is not the dough, but the WATER one uses to craft the dough.
Opening a pizza shop a pizza maker does not make you!
For you, vincemunday, I invite you to try one of my 16" Brooklyn style pizzas, and if you honestly don't like it it's on the house! I'll put my knowledge on the subject where my mouth is and back it back with a quality product.
See you Sunday at Brooklyn's on Adulyadet Road
Papa Z :-"

Wow man? Oh dear.... Well I suppose it's better than you busting in on EVERY thread with your menu and special offers. I have gone back though my postings here and at no point do I claim to be an expert, in fact I go to great pains to say each to their own. The fact remains, whether you agree or not, Pizza Hut is a huge, HUGE chain and they produce pizza that most people find acceptable, my guess is they sell more pizza worldwide in a minute that you will sell in a lifetime. I am VERY pleased they're opening and by the sounds of it so are a few others I shan't take you up on your very kind offer, one of my favourite mass producers is opening soon, I can wait.

vincemunday wrote:Wow man? Oh dear.... Well I suppose it's better than you busting in on EVERY thread with your menu and special offers. I have gone back though my postings here and at no point do I claim to be an expert, in fact I go to great pains to say each to their own. The fact remains, whether you agree or not, Pizza Hut is a huge, HUGE chain and they produce pizza that most people find acceptable, my guess is they sell more pizza worldwide in a minute that you will sell in a lifetime. I am VERY pleased they're opening and by the sounds of it so are a few others I shan't take you up on your very kind offer, one of my favourite mass producers is opening soon, I can wait.

Answered as expected, of course.
I busted in a thread ONCE with my menu and pics, in answering fatbob's query. Keeping book for UD map, are ya?
Have a great life!
Papa Z

vincemunday wrote:Absolutely right Truebrit, I've been served some really nasty pizza here in Udon Thani (please note this isn't an invitation for a sponsor to add his menu) and it's almost definitely down to rubbish ingredients. What some of these people need to understand is that chains whether it be Mc Donald's, KFC, Pizza Hut etc become chains because they produce people what want to eat, of course this might not suit the sensibilities of some of the apparent gourmands on this forum but it's fact, you don't get to be a multi billion pound chain without getting something right.

What a joke, you quote the likes of McDonalds and KFC as being great and doing it right,,,, yeah right on dude, real wholesome food, put a McDonalds burger in a cupboard for three years and it comes out looking the same as it did three years earlier, and some dumb arses actually eat it...

I don't say it's great at all, but you can't argue with the business model, they turn over more Pizza, burgers and chicken than any other company in the world because? It makes me laugh that people eat something they think is good and think everyone else should do the same, I've eaten in at least one of the places you purportedly patronise Bob and to be honest I wouldn't go back but hey, you're the gourmand..... By the way, nice to see someone spelling arse right.