Families

Long distance relationships, mixed relationships etc...
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Re: Families

Post by petemcc » August 12, 2010, 8:24 am

Thanks and bye bye.

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Re: Families

Post by arjay » August 12, 2010, 8:38 am

Pete, I gave you some food for thought in my early posts on this thread, (as indeed did many others), but you were far too busy reacting against what I (and they) said, rather than stopping and thinking about the point I was making. You need to work on your "active listening" skills.

I pointed out that with her income and job, why would her family want her to go, - thus you ought to have been thinking how could you overcome those points. What were the real issues involved there. Also, I suggested that whether the obstacle was really the family, or the daughter, you needed to be trying to get behind what their objections really were. Only then could you hope to overcome them. But again you just dived in with, that wasn't what you wanted to hear, - you wanted answers. They were the answers if you took the time to stop and think about them!!

As you've since mentioned you've only actually spent 30 days with her, I would have thought that even you would realise that that is far too short a period (for you, her or her family). You should be adding a year or two to that, before making lifetime decisions.

Before you go, I've got a name for your restaurant - "The Rickety Bridge". ;)

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Re: Families

Post by nkstan » August 12, 2010, 8:44 am

I don't think anyone was implying that you had ''no life experience'',therefore an idiot.If there were implications of that,than of course they are idiots.The point ,from me,is that you claim so many experienced qualifications as you argue advice and experience from longterm expats that you requested.

Why?

I the obvious supposition is that you are wanting to be confirmed in your thinking,because you don't seem to have any gratitude for our sharing of experience,shown by your defensive and argumentative attitude,which prompts constant repies from some of us!

Analyse your question posed on this thread!What possible answers do you think were possible?You claim much expertise in many of your postings about Thailand and Thai /falang relationships that it brings out a ''Western arrogance'' that most of us have displayed initially as ''newbies'',thinking we knew what was best!But you take it to another level with you asking and then arguing or ''telling'' us that,in a sense,we are wrong and you are right!

I and some others have responded to your personal ,non-newbie lack of humbleness and appreciation for our opinions and experience info,which ,either,inflames you or possibly,as a possible motive of trolling is thought,pleasures you,Either endears you to the posters on the forum!But ,of course,if you are a troll,you could care less.

I can't imagine being a ''customer'' or a friend'' of yours if you were oprening a business or wanting to teach my child because you are not communityiendly,IMO,therefore your lack of success is predictable.

To publicly insult the business practices of Jeremy at the Bookhouse,a perfect example of a good business operator,that most expats living here have come to realize and support,destroyed much of you credibility to begin with!But you EGO has blinded you to hearing or recognizing how that works!

It should be obvious to you,being so smart and educated,that you DO NOT have the Thailand experience that most of us have,therefore some humility should have shown as a relative newbie,but NO.we got arrogance and arguments,challenges and credential comparisons along with lists of your expertise in many fields!Most of us are retired and can spend much time at the keyboard!I wonder how such a busy go getter like you can be online so much,never mind,just thinking out loud! :lol:

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Re: Families

Post by petemcc » August 12, 2010, 9:02 am

I work shifts and get quite a few days off, that is why I have time.
Where did I criticise Jeremy's business practices, you see this is a myth that has bee perpetuated by the likes of you. I merely stated that I thought some of his prices were excessive. Criticising prices is not something new or unique to me, people always whinge about prices, so I'm hardly a serious offender.

As much as you can't imagine being a customer or friend of mine, I can't imagine me wanting you as a customer or friend, but hey, nothing lost for either of us.

I have not argued with anything that has been said. I have on occasions stated that the replies were left field and not addressing my question, and I have responded to people who flamed me.

All I wanted was a simple answer to a complicated question, which is why I asked ex-pats.
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Re: Families

Post by petemcc » August 12, 2010, 9:08 am

arjay wrote:Pete, I gave you some food for thought in my early posts on this thread, (as indeed did many others), but you were far too busy reacting against what I (and they) said, rather than stopping and thinking about the point I was making. You need to work on your "active listening" skills.

I pointed out that with her income and job, why would her family want her to go, - thus you ought to have been thinking how could you overcome those points. What were the real issues involved there. Also, I suggested that whether the obstacle was really the family, or the daughter, you needed to be trying to get behind what their objections really were. Only then could you hope to overcome them. But again you just dived in what that wasn't what you wanted to hear, - you wanted answers. They were the answers if you took the time to stop and think about them!!

As you've since mentioned you've only actually spent 30 days with her, I would have thought that even you would realise that that is far too short a period (for you, her or her family). You should be adding a year or two to that, before making life ---- decisions.

Before you go, I've got a name for your restaurant - "The Rickety Bridge". ;)
Thanks, I understand what you are saying. I know money is the underlying issue and her brother wanted to know everything about my finances. I'm not too badly off, but unfortunately like most I am worth more dead than alive!

I have listened to what people said and sorted the wheat from the chaff, but unfortunately I have now been put in a position where I am being treated like **** and can do nothing right.

Anyway, 'The Rickety Bridge' has a ring to it, maybe see you there.

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Re: Families

Post by trubrit » August 12, 2010, 10:37 am

Did no one see this? http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/member20757.html

Why are you all still responding? Makes you as bad as him . :roll:
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Re: Families

Post by barryp » August 12, 2010, 10:47 am

petemcc wrote: I don't suffer fools gladly.
Then why are you rising to every bait on this thread?

You seem stuck in a quagmire of indecision yet rejecting all suggestions and opinions.
Face the facts ... she'd rather be with her family, in her home country with her modest salary than with an overbearing ogre in a land far away although the cash benefits may be advantageous, but she doesn't appear that mercenary.
She'll never be happy in Oz; You'll never be happy in Isaan. Give it up; after all you have soooooo many professions on which to fall back.

Now; make an independant, executive decision and get on with your life, for gods sake, free yourself from this turmoil and stop perpetuating this rather pathetic self indulgence.

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Re: Families

Post by laphanphon » August 12, 2010, 11:39 am

Well spotted Val, troll, do you think. To easy to spot, or he simply has more money and less brains than you average WBU enrollee.

Pete, this isn’t going to help you at all, but feel free to read along and bash to your hearts desire, I won’t reply, as I rarely post on this forum anyway, but more helping fellow forumites spot your BS a bit better.

From your previous posts, as this one, you ask, receive, then ignore or argue most advice……..TROLL

Now for the real BS, as I find it hard for anyone to be that stupid, your post are very contradictory…………TROLL

IF SHE EVEN EXISTS………….which I doubt, at 38, independent, supposedly got her stuff together as does mom, self sufficient, and headed toward a comfy retirement, thai standard. She doesn't want to go, and why would see after you read the numbers part below.

Let’s work the numbers and the reasoning and contradictions. Contradictions, return in 5 yrs, ok, maybe 10 yrs, not ready to retire for 14 yrs………..pick one……………TROLL. more BS contradictions. can pay down her 10 mill debt, but waiting to pay off your house............TROLL

She has a 20 month old kid, from previous, so give her six months or so to end that one and start with you. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, hopefully you have been here at least twice for a 35 day holiday, or 4 two week holidays. Since that is what you quote as your holiday allow off work. Wow, so much time. So at the most, 70 days, unless I’m missing something as that is the vacation time you have.

Now I’m curious how a 20k a month employee runs up / guarantees 10 million baht worth of debt. Sounds fairly impossible to me…………….TROLL.

Even more unlikely, you paid it off, all or negotiated down, plus you give her 10k a month, so have spent well over 100k supporting her. AND the final numbers………….TROLL.

10,100,000 Baht, divided by 70 days holiday, WOW, that’s some expensive trim. Making that 144,285 baht a day, to actually be here personally. Ok, I’ll make you feel better, figure 400 days, since 2 holidays, if not two holidays, double the above figure. Daily cost over 400 days to say you have a nice thai gf, would be over 25 K baht a day, every day for 400 days…………………………TROLL. [-X [-X [-X

OK fellow forumites, get them reading glasses on and pass on this guys posting.

LA………working for the ……… oh christ…..simon help me. :D 8)

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Re: Families

Post by old-timer » August 12, 2010, 12:31 pm

petemcc wrote:I admit I have only spent about 30 days physically with her.
I can imagine what another 30 days would bring :wave:

petemcc - There's plenty of well fit birds in Thailand but I got a feeling none of them would tolerate you. And calm down before you have a heart attack or something.

OT........... \:D/

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Re: Families

Post by laphanphon » August 12, 2010, 1:29 pm

whoa, speed reading.................missed that 30 day thing, so the numbers above are at least double for daily cost of spending time w/her.

MODS: feel free to delete one of the double post, oops. really need that delete button or extended edit time put back in....

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Re: Families

Post by trubrit » August 12, 2010, 2:36 pm

Just a note, not on the questions but the obvious clue in the post . Any one who knows anything about military ranks would know that a Major (Phan Tri in Thai) is a field rank and as such would never be designated to a non combatant. The highest would be a Captain and in the medical service this would be reserved for a very senior qualified Doctor . Nursing staff , even a Ward Sister would still be non commissioned .There is a slight possibilty that he meant Sgt Major which indicates a senior NCO . :lol:
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Re: Families

Post by petemcc » August 12, 2010, 4:49 pm

trubrit wrote:Just a note, not on the questions but the obvious clue in the post . Any one who knows anything about military ranks would know that a Major (Phan Tri in Thai) is a field rank and as such would never be designated to a non combatant. The highest would be a Captain and in the medical service this would be reserved for a very senior qualified Doctor . Nursing staff , even a Ward Sister would still be non commissioned .There is a slight possibilty that he meant Sgt Major which indicates a senior NCO . :lol:
Well it seems you don't have a fucken clue what you are talking about. When I get home I will post a pic of her in her uniform, I assure you she is a Major, not a sergeant major.

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Re: Families

Post by hangsaboot » August 12, 2010, 4:54 pm

I have found wanking while viewing a webcam is over rated.[/quote]

how does it compare with ,, viewing udon map forum ,???
granted , there are a few wankers on this site . :D jak wow..

BTtopic...
imo, your gf is on a good salary for thailand ,
and possibly a army pension , in the future .
maybe , her family do not want to loose this financial security .

family support and loyality , is high on the agenda in thailand ,
a quality i admire in thai people , and something we have litle of
in the affluent western culture..
best off luck :pirate:

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Re: Families

Post by petemcc » August 12, 2010, 4:56 pm

laphanphon wrote:Well spotted Val, troll, do you think. To easy to spot, or he simply has more money and less brains than you average WBU enrollee.

Pete, this isn’t going to help you at all, but feel free to read along and bash to your hearts desire, I won’t reply, as I rarely post on this forum anyway, but more helping fellow forumites spot your BS a bit better.

From your previous posts, as this one, you ask, receive, then ignore or argue most advice……..TROLL

Now for the real BS, as I find it hard for anyone to be that stupid, your post are very contradictory…………TROLL

IF SHE EVEN EXISTS………….which I doubt, at 38, independent, supposedly got her stuff together as does mom, self sufficient, and headed toward a comfy retirement, thai standard. She doesn't want to go, and why would see after you read the numbers part below.

Let’s work the numbers and the reasoning and contradictions. Contradictions, return in 5 yrs, ok, maybe 10 yrs, not ready to retire for 14 yrs………..pick one……………TROLL. more BS contradictions. can pay down her 10 mill debt, but waiting to pay off your house............TROLL

She has a 20 month old kid, from previous, so give her six months or so to end that one and start with you. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, hopefully you have been here at least twice for a 35 day holiday, or 4 two week holidays. Since that is what you quote as your holiday allow off work. Wow, so much time. So at the most, 70 days, unless I’m missing something as that is the vacation time you have.

Now I’m curious how a 20k a month employee runs up / guarantees 10 million baht worth of debt. Sounds fairly impossible to me…………….TROLL.

Even more unlikely, you paid it off, all or negotiated down, plus you give her 10k a month, so have spent well over 100k supporting her. AND the final numbers………….TROLL.

10,100,000 Baht, divided by 70 days holiday, WOW, that’s some expensive trim. Making that 144,285 baht a day, to actually be here personally. Ok, I’ll make you feel better, figure 400 days, since 2 holidays, if not two holidays, double the above figure. Daily cost over 400 days to say you have a nice thai gf, would be over 25 K baht a day, every day for 400 days…………………………TROLL. [-X [-X [-X

OK fellow forumites, get them reading glasses on and pass on this guys posting.

LA………working for the ……… oh christ…..simon help me. :D 8)
Are you on drugs? Every word you said is ****. Where did I say she was 10 million B in debt? Please quote it.
You are like many others here, you read what you want to read.

OK if it makes you feel better call me a Troll, I don't give a ****, I call you a ****, now I feel better.

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Re: Families

Post by patriot » August 12, 2010, 5:13 pm

petemcc wrote:Thanks Joe

In one of my earlier posts I mentioned about her debt as a result of her ex husband. Unfortunately because of this she is not able to secure a loan. I have sorted out using solicitors another loan which she was liable for having gone guarantor for her ex (or husband at the time), and the thing is in reality she could never, ever pay the loan out. She was therefore technically in debt/owing the bank 10 million B. Like I said, I have sorted things out and in 4 years she may be able to get a credit rating again. Having said that, in all honesty she couldn't afford any more loans.

Thanks for your best wishes.
Cheers
Pete
Please try keeping up with your own diatribe

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