Setting up a business in udon thani

Post by **toddmeister** » July 6, 2015, 10:21 pm

Marriage bureau

Every time the wife & I go back to Isaan the local ladies are always asking me to find them a farang husband

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Post by **papafarang** » July 6, 2015, 10:40 pm

not enough custom just doing bread Rw you would have to sell around 30 white 750g loaves a day just to cover costs, and that is not possible with the farang market. bread accounts for about 3 % wife's income and she does a lot of bread, plus you have wastage , tomorrow we could sell two or twenty loaves you never know here, occasionally we over produce and freezing it only helps cover any losses as more cost are involved in keeping a freezer running . she makes more selling tea and coffee which is easier work for sure, selling one breakfast gives more profit than 3 loaves, there have been a few trying specialist breads, but the market for them is minuscule, even Tesco with 1000's
of daily customers only does a few breads daily . ice cream could work but you would need high foot traffic like being inside central plaza with associated high overheads. big clothes is a good one worth looking into, but still need to know where the best quality and price are available, which would mean weekly visits to Bangkok.
sorry not trying to put a damper on the subject

Post by **trekkertony** » July 7, 2015, 3:10 am

Papafarang were you at your inimitable best when "sorry not trying to put a damper on the subject""
For the uninitiated,
Damper is a traditional Australian soda bread prepared by swagmen, drovers, stockmen and other travellers. It consists of a wheat flour based bread, traditionally baked in the coals of a campfire. Damper is an iconic Australian dish. It is also made in camping situations in New Zealand, and has been for many decades.

Re the original post
An idea l toyed with was the supply and installation of stair lifts in the Udon region given the aging expat and Thai population. Given the absence of nursing homes and the fact that Thais look after their loved ones right through to their dying day, l would have thought stair lifts would be a thing of the future. The alibaba website for Chinese manuafacturers of same may assist.

Post by **BigBubba** » July 7, 2015, 3:19 am

The OP didn't state his Nationality. American citizens in Thailand enjoy special privileges provided by the 1966 Treaty of Amity in reference to operating businesses. The biggest advantage is being able to be the major share holder in the business. Some exceptions apply. In depth details here: http://www.siam-legal.com//Business-in- ... aQodp74MLA

Post by **RLTrader** » July 7, 2015, 8:58 am

Would love to see a lawn care business, to install sod, cut when needed, spray for weeds .... With all the sod seeming to be sold, they must be a lot of houses with lawns these days, to support 3 or 4 crews.

Post by **papafarang** » July 7, 2015, 10:15 am

RLTrader wrote:Would love to see a lawn care business, to install sod, cut when needed, spray for weeds .... With all the sod seeming to be sold, they must be a lot of houses with lawns these days, to support 3 or 4 crews.

again another good idea....but not workable all year round, rainy season not good as cutting wet grass is not too good for the roots, plus being soft soils after heavy rain walking on it would destroy soil structure, then the dry season with very little growth, giving about 4 month of the year with full time care, on top of that there's costs and a public that want gardens manicured for 100 baht a week, no money in it basically .
dammm got to stop sounding negative, good groundwork will see the green shoots of a business

Post by **RLTrader** » July 7, 2015, 11:02 am

papafarang wrote: again another good idea....but not workable all year round, rainy season not good as cutting wet grass is not too good for the roots, doesn't seem to bother my grass plus being soft soils after heavy rain walking on it would destroy soil structure, my seems to have good drainage then the dry season with very little growth about 3 months for me, it seems, giving about 4 month of the year with full time care, on top of that there's costs and a public that want gardens manicured for 100 baht a week Hmm, thinking a yearly contract, most times cut twice a month, except for my weeds, no money in it basically .
dammm got to stop sounding negative, good groundwork will see the green shoots of a business

Hmm, kinda of thinking along the lines of what I had in american south in SC. Sadly been so long I can't remember. But I do think it stopped growing in Nov and started again maybe in April. Also can't remember the cost.

Post by **papafarang** » July 7, 2015, 11:35 am

ok positive thinking. again not a just set up, needs research and a good position, but could work. plenty of bland coffee shops, how about something with a bit of character, something novel , something that appeals to Thai's and farangs, tea's , cakes ,cookies , ice creams . all easy products to find. can't beat a nice cup of cha dee

or if you wanted easier, parked up near a park in town

Post by **RLTrader** » July 7, 2015, 11:44 am

Seems like every time I go some where in Udon, there is another New Empty Coffee Shop, but maybe its because of the time of day, noonish. On the plus side, they do seem to have free WiFi, So just maybe its a nightish thing.

Post by **papafarang** » July 7, 2015, 2:01 pm

true RL , the coffee thing has been done to death, thais realized a long time ago that once running they have minimal running costs and high profit margins, but I have never found one selling earl grey, with a devon fresh cream sponge. cakes in these places are awful covered in solid vegetable fat (palm) mixed with food colouring and sugar , that's why you end up with an oily taste in your mouth.

Post by **Udon Map** » July 7, 2015, 5:19 pm

papafarang wrote:true RL , the coffee thing has been done to death, thais realized a long time ago that once running they have minimal running costs and high profit margins, but I have never found one selling earl grey, with a devon fresh cream sponge. cakes in these places are awful covered in solid vegetable fat (palm) mixed with food colouring and sugar , that's why you end up with an oily taste in your mouth.

Sounds to me as though you've found your next shop, Dean; although the cakes they serve at Beyond are truly excellent IMO. Same with what's available at Dose.

Post by **papafarang** » July 8, 2015, 7:09 am

Udon Map wrote:
papafarang wrote:true RL , the coffee thing has been done to death, thais realized a long time ago that once running they have minimal running costs and high profit margins, but I have never found one selling earl grey, with a devon fresh cream sponge. cakes in these places are awful covered in solid vegetable fat (palm) mixed with food colouring and sugar , that's why you end up with an oily taste in your mouth.
Sounds to me as though you've found your next shop, Dean; although the cakes they serve at Beyond are truly excellent IMO. Same with what's available at Dose.

both very nice places that do it well, sadly I'm a tea lover and no where in Thailand have I ever had a nice cup of tea and said "ooooooh". I also am not really a fancy cake kind of guy , a bit of Jamaican ginger cake or carrot cake does me, later today I'm going to try banana cake but with a twist...give it a soft gooey caramel centre

Post by **kopkei** » July 8, 2015, 7:33 am

- a restaurant with decent prices not only for the food but also the drinks , food and drinks quality/quantity/price
in a normal perspective ,in a nice decorated place and with a skilled chef ...
- a bakery with all the goodies ready early morning and fresh to buy , not coming out of the fridge or freezer
- a descent butcher , which i know is impossible , and not all the frozen crap , when coming from abroad seriously overpriced due to import tax? and greedy profits ...and if you not have the knowledge , don't start...
one of the reasons we are mostly buying the goods and cooking drinking at home ...
udon is becoming one of the most expensive city's in thailand , food prices , drink prices , home/condo prices ...
even car/motorbikeprices ...
i am waiting this crazy prices bubble will burst very soon ...wait and see...good luck to all

Post by **fatbob** » July 8, 2015, 12:24 pm

kopkei wrote: by kopkei » July 8, 2015, 7:33 am

- a restaurant with decent prices not only for the food but also the drinks , food and drinks quality/quantity/price
in a normal perspective ,in a nice decorated place and with a skilled chef ...
- a bakery with all the goodies ready early morning and fresh to buy , not coming out of the fridge or freezer
- a descent butcher , which i know is impossible , and not all the frozen crap , when coming from abroad seriously overpriced due to import tax? and greedy profits ...and if you not have the knowledge , don't start...
one of the reasons we are mostly buying the goods and cooking drinking at home ...
udon is becoming one of the most expensive city's in thailand , food prices , drink prices , home/condo prices ...
even car/motorbikeprices ...
i am waiting this crazy prices bubble will burst very soon ...wait and see...good luck to all

What he means is a business that makes no money yet provides imported meat at Thai prices, serves up big helpings of food with a mark up of 5 baht, ice cold beer at supermarket prices not taking into account electricity, staff and rent. Come on guys this is your Udon customer base, if you are prepared to set up a business here to earn 15k to 20k baht a month then go for it, good luck. The only business to think of here is one that caters for Thai's, not Farangs!

Post by **rct** » July 8, 2015, 3:28 pm

The new mall adjacent to / behind VT Restaurant on Phosri Road (see the section built behind it by the round about) appears to be going upscale for the neighborhood, I hope they have enough quality tenants who thrive, to make it a go. For sure it will have an upscale Italian eatery. If I were looking to open a business, I would seriously consider here.

Though the place facing it - Gather Around - closed already. Not easy to make a go of it in Udon, that is for sure, which is why I have utmost respect for those who try and especially those who succeed like Irish Clock (farang focused), x Roma (locals focused in fact), and a few others.

Post by **wazza** » July 23, 2015, 2:17 am

]The big problem, which can occur in any country, is when buyers fail to undertake a rigorous due diligence.

As with any purchase the important rule to remember is caveat emptor.

=D> =D> =D> =D>

As well as using a lawyer to draft the contract , so it can be enforced in the Thai Legal system.

Spend some money to save even more perhaps

Post by **parrot** » August 18, 2015, 3:33 am

Still on temporary duty in Houston......this morning while out with our daughter's dog, I spoke with a man employed as a pooper-scooper. He said there's no shortage of work in the Houston area.....employed mostly by businesses, apartments, condos, etc. He bought into the franchise and says he makes decent money. It may not be most people's idea of 'work' but in his case, he sounded happy with his work and pay.
I couldn't help but think how successful such a business could be in LOS.......to the best of my knowledge, the list of restricted jobs by foreigners doesn't include 'pooper scoopers'......and there's certainly no shortage of the stuff around to keep a few people employed.

Post by **LisaFuqua** » November 3, 2015, 3:42 pm

I think running a preschool is a good idea. It is the best business with no loss as there will be children and they need a preschool. You just have to provide all basic facilities to children so that parents are convinced to register their kids to your preschool.