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Re: American Arrested

Post by newtovillagelife » February 5, 2017, 11:13 am

Bravo, I second that.



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Re: American Arrested

Post by Balthasar G. » February 5, 2017, 12:43 pm

trubrit wrote:Maybe I am missing something here. As I see it the girl aged 17+(Not a kid in my book) was committing a crime by prostituting herself and apparently pimping some of her friends of roughly the same age, all criminal activities
"By prostituting herself": In my country that would be the operative phrase. You can in principle have consensual s_x with a minor of at least 16 or 17 year old, but PAID s_x (child prostitution) is forbidden, as is (video) recording or photographing it (child porn).
Did he pay for s_x with a minor? Yes! Did he record it? Yes! Verdict: Guilty on both counts.
but there is no mention of her being charged with anything, yet her customer is .!
Like it or not, but the law decriminalises prostitution in the case of minors. This means that they cannot be charged with prostitution. It’s the aim of the law to treat minors involved in prostitution as victims. Not as criminals. They take the point of view that because of their age they can be more easily coerced or manipulated than an adult by the use of for instance psychological or emotional abuse.

I’m not familiar with UK law but I doubt that it’s any different in your country.
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Re: American Arrested

Post by papafarang » February 5, 2017, 12:45 pm

so I suppose that fact he was filming his activities, maybe for his own titillation, maybe to share around 'special group', maybe he was selling on videos and pictures. the report is he tried to destroy his hard drive suggest that material that incriminated him. ok she was 17, but how many other young girls did he get his hands on ? and you don't have to be that bright to figure out that a predator that actually seeks out a 17 year old was probably using her groom her younger friends. using any excuse that 'well its legal in our country so its alright" seems to miss the point, it's legal to marry an 11 year old in some countries. so it's ok then ? your in Thailand, accept it's their laws, not how we think their laws should be.
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Re: American Arrested

Post by Udon Map » February 5, 2017, 1:07 pm

papafarang wrote:using any excuse that 'well its legal in our country so its alright" seems to miss the point, it's legal to marry an 11 year old in some countries. so it's ok then ? your in Thailand, accept it's their laws, not how we think their laws should be.
This. Lots of things are legal/illegal in our home countries but not so here. We're here, and the laws here are the ones that apply.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by trubrit » February 5, 2017, 1:25 pm

papafarang wrote:so I suppose that fact he was filming his activities, maybe for his own titillation, maybe to share around 'special group', maybe he was selling on videos and pictures. the report is he tried to destroy his hard drive suggest that material that incriminated him. ok she was 17, but how many other young girls did he get his hands on ? and you don't have to be that bright to figure out that a predator that actually seeks out a 17 year old was probably using her groom her younger friends. using any excuse that 'well its legal in our country so its alright" seems to miss the point, it's legal to marry an 11 year old in some countries. so it's ok then ? your in Thailand, accept it's their laws, not how we think their laws should be.
Quite a lot of maybe and probably's, even a few say so's, to say nothing of assumptions. Do you believe everything you read? I still say based on the hard evidence, until further is proved, a court would not have given him a death sentence which a lot on here seem to be gloating about.
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Re: American Arrested

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Re: American Arrested

Post by BigRick808 » February 6, 2017, 7:33 am

Very interesting, among other things, that so many Brits, are so very eager to make comments on a thread about a Korean America man taking nude photos and having sex in Thailand, but when it comes to a thread about British Muslim men having intercourse with well over 1400 little English girls(as young as 10 years old), and impregnating some and pimping out the others right in their own nation for over a decade( That's one case. There are many more) they don't even say one word. So sad. Sad people = sad behavior :-" [-o<

Here's the thread: http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/v ... 27#p477827

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Re: American Arrested

Post by jai yen yen » February 6, 2017, 9:24 am

BigRick808 wrote:Very interesting, among other things, that so many Brits, are so very eager to make comments on a thread about a Korean America man taking nude photos and having *** in Thailand, but when it comes to a thread about British Muslim men having intercourse with well over 1400 little English girls(as young as 10 years old), and impregnating some and pimping out the others right in their own nation for over a decade( That's one case. There are many more) they don't even say one word. So sad. Sad people = sad behavior :-" [-o<

Here's the thread: http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/v ... 27#p477827
Kind of boggles the mind dosen't it?

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Re: American Arrested

Post by newtovillagelife » February 6, 2017, 10:23 am

Maybe it's because this story is closer to home. Although, here in Thailand I am sure the number of girls being exploited is far greater.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by jai yen yen » February 6, 2017, 11:37 am

newtovillagelife wrote:Maybe it's because this story is closer to home. Although, here in Thailand I am sure the number of girls being exploited is far greater.
I don't know if exploited is the right term in regards to the young Thai girls selling their goods. They know full well what they are doing and seem to value the cash more than their offerings. Thailand seems to have a cash value on everything. I told my Thai wife about this story and she said those girls know exactly what they are doing, Thai culture I guess.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by trubrit » February 6, 2017, 11:52 am

BigRick808 wrote:Very interesting, among other things, that so many Brits, are so very eager to make comments on a thread about a Korean America man taking nude photos and having *** in Thailand, but when it comes to a thread about British Muslim men having intercourse with well over 1400 little English girls(as young as 10 years old), and impregnating some and pimping out the others right in their own nation for over a decade( That's one case. There are many more) they don't even say one word. So sad. Sad people = sad behavior :-" [-o<

Here's the thread: http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/v ... 827#p47782
Well as one of those Brits let me put you straight. Firstly my interest was raised because this is the Udon topic on a Udon forum, it so happens that the perpetrator was said to be in the topic title American, later on in the subject matter clarified as being of Korean descent, neither of these were deciding factors in my reading and subsequently posting on the subject .My interest was solely on the type of incident and because it happened locally, also as it turned out, someone known to us as a member.For you to try and turn this into an example of what you perceive to be American bashing session is the only sad thing I can see .None of us had any control over where we were born any more than we decided the colour of our own skin. We are what our parents made us. Get used to it, accept it and get on with your life, stop looking for insults, be proud of who you are whether thats a yank or a Brit or anything else .
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Re: American Arrested

Post by Udon Map » February 6, 2017, 11:59 am

Gents, let's get back to the topic of the thread, shall we? The American who was arrested for having sex with underage girls and who apparently died shortly after his release from prison.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by felixcat » February 6, 2017, 12:17 pm

It appears he was the guy who bought my accident motorbike. Seemed like a nice guy, said he was from Hawaii.
Enjoyed alot of good conversation, pretty smart guy. Said he was helping the girls get out of their debt problems. And....they helped him out alot. Never said anything about age, but I did suspect it. I'm sure many of you knew him.
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Re: American Arrested

Post by skinner » February 6, 2017, 1:33 pm

BigRick808 wrote:Very interesting, among other things, that so many Brits, are so very eager to make comments on a thread about a Korean America man taking nude photos and having *** in Thailand, but when it comes to a thread about British Muslim men having intercourse with well over 1400 little English girls(as young as 10 years old), and impregnating some and pimping out the others right in their own nation for over a decade( That's one case. There are many more) they don't even say one word. So sad. Sad people = sad behavior :-" [-o<

Here's the thread: http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/v ... 27#p477827

I thought this was an UDON forum , and has news about things going on in UDON. This American was living in UDON, and was arrested by UDON police, should British people not comment on this because it might upset some Septics ?
About the muslim gangs that were arrested in Britain, this is old news, has been going on for years, most of the girls were tearaways looking for alcohol sex and drugs. I don't condone what happened to them in any way and hope the perpetrators suffer, just as I hope the American suffers( or suffered)
Perhaps the Brits on this forum are all too aware about this old news and as it has nothing to do with UDON , or even Thailand, see no point in commenting. Its not very fair to label British people on the forum as sad because they didn't comment on something you wanted them to comment on.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by Jello » February 6, 2017, 2:51 pm

trubrit wrote:Do you believe everything you read? I still say based on the hard evidence, until further is proved, a court would not have given him a death sentence which a lot on here seem to be gloating about.
One thing I find strange about Thailand crime articles is how the criminal is often admitting guilt to the police as soon as their arrested.

The article states "He said ... in his spare time like to invite girls under 18 to have sex and make videos".

Really, he said that? Most Americans know that its a bad idea to say anything to the police once arrested other than I want to speak to my lawyer.

The article also states that he has been here 3 years. TingTong's been posting on UM since 2006.

Perhaps the translation isn't exact. :-k
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Re: American Arrested

Post by newtovillagelife » February 6, 2017, 3:05 pm

Strange have you watched the news, they make criminals reenact crimes while cameras follow.

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Re: American Arrested

Post by skinner » February 6, 2017, 3:57 pm

Jello wrote:
trubrit wrote:Do you believe everything you read? I still say based on the hard evidence, until further is proved, a court would not have given him a death sentence which a lot on here seem to be gloating about.
One thing I find strange about Thailand crime articles is how the criminal is often admitting guilt to the police as soon as their arrested.

The article states "He said ... in his spare time like to invite girls under 18 to have *** and make videos".

Really, he said that? Most Americans know that its a bad idea to say anything to the police once arrested other than I want to speak to my lawyer.

The article also states that he has been here 3 years. TingTong's been posting on UM since 2006.

Perhaps the translation isn't exact. :-k
Could it be he had been here 3 years since his last entry ?

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Re: American Arrested

Post by papafarang » February 6, 2017, 4:24 pm

trubrit wrote:
papafarang wrote:so I suppose that fact he was filming his activities, maybe for his own titillation, maybe to share around 'special group', maybe he was selling on videos and pictures. the report is he tried to destroy his hard drive suggest that material that incriminated him. ok she was 17, but how many other young girls did he get his hands on ? and you don't have to be that bright to figure out that a predator that actually seeks out a 17 year old was probably using her groom her younger friends. using any excuse that 'well its legal in our country so its alright" seems to miss the point, it's legal to marry an 11 year old in some countries. so it's ok then ? your in Thailand, accept it's their laws, not how we think their laws should be.
Quite a lot of maybe and probably's, even a few say so's, to say nothing of assumptions. Do you believe everything you read? I still say based on the hard evidence, until further is proved, a court would not have given him a dealith sentence which a lot on here seem to be gloating about.
Naivety can be boundless on this forum, are you suggesting he was giving motorbike repair lessons to naked 17 year old girls ? the amount of scandals surroundings children in the uk is shocking, childrens care homes, sports clubs you name it, where ever children go sickos follow. society in the uk has not protected it's vulnerable children,.
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Re: American Arrested

Post by trubrit » February 6, 2017, 5:23 pm

Delete my posts if you want but do not edit them it changes the context completely.
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Re: American Arrested

Post by papafarang » February 6, 2017, 5:56 pm

In my many years of institutions and boarding schools I will tell you one thing, volunteers were some of the worst offenders. but don't get me wrong ,i'm only putting my point across from a victims point. I've never managed to get my head around the offenders point of view. so please everyone get a grip. she's a victim , he's an offender. and if he is dead then the fact he can't be prosecuted don't make him innocent
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