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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » August 16, 2018, 9:31 pm

What a vindictive child....the noose must be tightening....



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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » August 16, 2018, 9:58 pm

I doubt that former government and inner cabinet members retaining security status after they have 'left the building' is unique to the US. It's part of maintaining something called national security. Unless DJT moves beyond this and similarly moves to revoke the security clearances of all former staffers, this will be seen for what it is, politicizing the security apparatus solely to give a stiff middle finger to Brennan, a very vocal critic of DJT. If he considers it as just another part of his post-Obama's house cleaning obsession, I trust he will heed the advice of his advisors against this. If they fail to dissuade him, I trust that revocations will extend to all former staffers including those that served previous Republican administrations.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by papafarang » August 17, 2018, 7:09 am

very good point Tamada, he's just shown himself to be a child spitting his dummy out. these former heads of departments are a resource. The biggest risk to security would be Trump with his private meetings, god knows what he boasts and blabbers about to kim, putin etc..
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 17, 2018, 11:23 am

I doubt that former government and inner cabinet members retaining security status after they have 'left the building' is unique to the US.
I don't have any idea, but it has no impact on the issues with Brennan, which he chose to create himself. Trump didn't just wake up one morning and decide to do this for no reason. The reasons for Brennan's revocation was very specific.
It's part of maintaining something called national security.
Those people on the list have not been of any help to the current administration, and there is specific evidence that they have undermined it, or in at least one case, was insubordinate.

The interest of national security only applies to those individuals who are still working to keep the country secure. Brennan's record is abysmal inside and out of government. Putin couldn't have asked for a better accomplice at sowing discord and creating doubt within the society. Brennan's hyperbole and insinuation regarding a Russia-Trump connection (with no evidence), and articulated by the former CIA Director, was not only irresponsible, but damaging to the country and to the credibility of the CIA (as some in government and the CIA have stated). He's entitled to an opinion as a citizen, but partisan propaganda shouldn't be coming from the former CIA Director -- who, like other federal agency employees, are supposed to be unbiased and rely only on facts.
Unless DJT moves beyond this and similarly moves to revoke the security clearances of all former staffers, this will be seen for what it is, politicizing the security apparatus solely to give a stiff middle finger to Brennan, a very vocal critic of DJT.
Brennan politicized his role and his stature with partisan propaganda -- which caused him to lose his clearance. To be in his position and to publicly dislike someone is fine. No problems. But to accuse someone of treason, insinuate that there is coordination between the administration and Russia, all with nothing more than a partisan goal of damaging someone goes far beyond personal dislike. Their past roles in government give them credibility with the public. CNN and MSNBC don't hire these former employees of the federal government because they look good on camera or because they like them. They hire them because of the positions that they held and the fact that they hate Trump. Their clearance gives credibility to their "hate Trump" message. Trump is reacting to their recklessness.

The eneMedia will spin it negatively no matter what. The odds are at least 90% that the eneMedia will spin anything about Trump in a negative way. Who should care at this point?
If he considers it as just another part of his post-Obama's house cleaning obsession, I trust he will heed the advice of his advisors against this. If they fail to dissuade him, I trust that revocations will extend to all former staffers including those that served previous Republican administrations.
I doubt that this was ever an issue or on any Trump checklist until Brennan's statements and the statements of others became publicly partisan and damaging to the country and the agencies they used to represent (for the reasons stated above). If it was a goal, why not just cut them all off? That hasn't happened and probably won't happen.

As to Trump's advisors, I'm not in those meetings. It could very well be the case that some or these individuals on the list are part of the leaks. There is proof that some of them leaked while in their positions (Comey and McCabe). Trump's advisors and Trump know much more about what is going on than tamada (or me). Trump could have very well been advised to cut Brennan loose and review the clearance of others. In fact, it was advisors and the IG who advised the administration on cutting loose Comey, McCabe, Strozk and Page. Those are 4 of the nine on the list.

Revocations will extend to those who are deemed to be making statements damaging to the country and to the agencies and the country they were sworn to serve. It is well within the powers of the POTUS and within the parameters of the Constitution to remove someone's clearance. Removing someone's clearance doesn't prevent them from speaking. It prevents them from being involved in government discussions that require clearance. It also removes the aura of credibility from their reckless statements, which is why they were hired by media companies.

I find it a bit rich that the guy who spied on the Senate and then lied to them about spying on them, was caught and had to apologize, is the one screaming about Trump's abuse of power. 55555 What Trump is doing is within his job description. Brennan's random actions against the Senate (and God knows what was done against other Americans) were NOT within his job description.

If you think that Trump revoking Brennan's clearance is a bad move, you're entitled to your opinion. Brennan's past is interesting reading, and you might be amazed that he even got a security clearance in the first place -- much less worked for the US Government.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 17, 2018, 11:26 am



Televised Cabinet Meeting

Larry Kudlow addresses the Cabinet at the 3:55 time of the video with economic numbers that continue to prove the naysayers wrong.

If you're going to watch the game and have an opinion, it's good to know the players and know what you're talking about.

For those whose arguments are solely "Hate Trump", it's time to move beyond that immature tactic -- or go ahead and continue to be immature. It's nothing more than a reflection of the eneMedia with their 90%+ negative reporting and Democrats with no policies or plans better than what Trump has proposed and executed.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » August 17, 2018, 11:43 am

This is not just about his economic grade....which is borrowing from future generations....to get the sugar high results now. As most educated teachers know, you are graded on many subjects!!!

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Post by Lone Star » August 17, 2018, 11:51 am

China is reversing course a bit. Their economy is sliding and capital investment by business has slowed and is uneasy.

The US has always wanted to talk if China was serious about free and fair trade, but China walked away earlier rather than offer any concessions to make the playing field level. It is unknown if China's willingness to meet has anything to do with change, but they are at least willing to meet.

Under Secretary of the Treasury for International Affairs, David Malpass will lead the US group in the talks. The meeting is scheduled to take place in August, but there are no details yet of any itinerary.

There has already been a reversal by China on crude oil imports from the US. With Brazil gouging on soybean prices, China may be rethinking the soybean trade also. The price for soybeans in China has increased by 20% plus since the tariffs went into place.

Due to the announcement by China to meet with the US on trade, soybeans were up over 25 cents today.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Udon Map » August 17, 2018, 1:00 pm

Lone Star wrote:
August 17, 2018, 11:26 am
For those whose arguments are solely "Hate Trump", it's time to move beyond that immature tactic -- or go ahead and continue to be immature. It's nothing more than a reflection of the eneMedia with their 90%+ negative reporting and Democrats with no policies or plans better than what Trump has proposed and executed.
No. It's entirely possible to hate Trump as a person, -- he's rude, boorish, classless, ignorant and more. He has no manners. But it's also possible to recognize simultaneously that some of the substantive things he has done as President have been good for the country.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 17, 2018, 1:27 pm

Key word: SOLELY.

My emphasis added.
For those whose arguments are solely "Hate Trump" . . .
I agree with your statement that someone can hate Trump and also acknowledge the good that has been done, but you may be the only one voicing that dual opinion in the form of any posts. To be very complimentary of you, you also appear to be intelligent and possess the ability to string more than two sentences together in a coherent manner and can debate a topic without trying to make it personal. Those who solely argue "Hate Trump" do not appear to have those abilities.

One need only go through the one-line or two-line responses and see all the posts that deal SOLELY with hate Trump.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » August 17, 2018, 2:27 pm

He has good taste in women, especially Ivanka. There I said it, a good thing.

And by the way some people only need one or two sentences to convey their point....also I am a very high IQ person(135).

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Drunk Monkey » August 17, 2018, 2:37 pm

Lone Star wrote:
August 17, 2018, 11:26 am


Televised Cabinet Meeting

Larry Kudlow addresses the Cabinet at the 3:55 time of the video with economic numbers that continue to prove the naysayers wrong.

If you're going to watch the game and have an opinion, it's good to know the players and know what you're talking about.

For those whose arguments are solely "Hate Trump", it's time to move beyond that immature tactic -- or go ahead and continue to be immature. It's nothing more than a reflection of the eneMedia with their 90%+ negative reporting and Democrats with no policies or plans better than what Trump has proposed and executed.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by trekkertony » August 18, 2018, 6:50 am

It must be a record to have so many hate Trump contributors to this forum who are are as pure as the driven snow. Thanks for the video LS, it is indeed refreshing to understand what is happening in the USA without it being filtered by those who are hellbent on engineering social and politicalbias.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » August 18, 2018, 9:27 am

newtovillagelife wrote:
August 17, 2018, 2:27 pm
He has good taste in women, especially Ivanka. ...
Fake boobs!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » August 18, 2018, 9:37 am

More impressive, winning figures here:-

What Truckers & Railroads Just Said about the US Economy

"The transportation sector is a reflection of the goods-based economy in the US. Demand has been blistering across all modes of transportation. Freight shipment volume (not pricing… we’ll get to pricing in a moment) by truck, rail, air, and barge, according to the Cass Freight Index jumped 10.6% in July compared to a year earlier. This pushed the index, which is not seasonally adjusted, to its highest level for July since 2007. ..."

https://wolfstreet.com/2018/08/16/truck ... ts-volume/

Don't forget to read the comments and opinions following the main article too.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » August 18, 2018, 12:34 pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
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Great vid keep em coming LS .
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 19, 2018, 1:19 pm

One of the largest demographics to suffer in the US due to the socialist minimum wage are teenage workers.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics showed another record for Trump's MAGAnomics policies. Youth unemployment in the US reached a 50 year low. The 9.2% unemployment rate is at its lowest level since 1966. This demographic grew by 2.6 million, which reflects a 12.7% increase.

The sectors hiring the most of this demographic were leisure and hospitality, retail trade, and education and health services.

Every age group is WINNING.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Udon Map » August 19, 2018, 1:35 pm

Lone Star wrote:
August 19, 2018, 1:19 pm
One of the largest demographics to suffer in the US due to the socialist minimum wage are teenage workers.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics showed another record for Trump's MAGAnomics policies. Youth unemployment in the US reached a 50 year low. The 9.2% unemployment rate is at its lowest level since 1966. This demographic grew by 2.6 million, which reflects a 12.7% increase.

The sectors hiring the most of this demographic were leisure and hospitality, retail trade, and education and health services.

Every age group is WINNING.
The numbers don't lie. As much as I can't stand him (and I really can't), unemployment is, and has been since Trump took office, lower than it ever was during the Obama years. OTOH, it peaked at 10% in October of Obama's first year in office and has been dropping steadily since then, -- through the remaining seven Obama years and all through the Trump era so far. I think that it would be hard to determine how much is due to the continued effect of Obama's economic policies and how much is due to Trump's economic policies.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 19, 2018, 1:43 pm

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I think that it would be hard to determine how much is due to the continued effect of Obama's economic policies and how much is due to Trump's economic policies.
It's not difficult for me. The fuse was lit when regulations were slashed and taxes were cut under Trump's watch. The continued repatriation of foreign profits of US companies will feed the booming economy for months. More regulations will be cut, and there is another tax bill coming soon (before the midterms) that has been touted as Tax Cuts 2.0.

Obama's regulations and Obama's erratic view of what he thought government should control kept businesses at bay and afraid to expand due to some new regulation or call for more taxes.

As Larry Kudlow has said (paraphrasing): The war on business, the war on achievement and the war on success is over.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Udon Map » August 19, 2018, 1:46 pm

Lone Star wrote:
August 19, 2018, 1:43 pm
Udon Map wrote:
August 19, 2018, 1:35 pm
... I think that it would be hard to determine how much is due to the continued effect of Obama's economic policies and how much is due to Trump's economic policies.
It's not difficult for me.
Of course not. You see it the way you see it. But from a reality/data-driven perspective, unemployment has been on a more or less straight line decline since October, 2009. Trump's taking office didn't change anything, at least as far as the unemployment rate goes.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » August 19, 2018, 2:07 pm

Udon Map wrote:
August 19, 2018, 1:46 pm
at least as far as the unemployment rate goes.
My reference was to the overall economy, not just unemployment.

I'll never figure out how Obama's DATA showed more people out of the workforce in the history of our country, less optimism among consumers, polls showing the country moving in the wrong direction (despite Obama's personal likability poll numbers) and more people on welfare -- yet unemployment numbers were going down.

As I'm sure you know, there are several acceptable equations for counting unemployment. Obama was counting part-time jobs and some other employment numbers. As a result, the reality is that the economy never took off under Obama. There was always a cloud of "What's he going to do next? What part of the private sector is he going to admonish for making too much profit or claim that they 'didn't build that'?"

Trump's taking office did change things. Consumer optimism shot up almost immediately. Trump is the one who slashed regulations and pushed for the tax cuts for all -- including those cuts that put US businesses on a good footing worldwide to compete.

It's data, not my imagination or biased view. It's there.
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