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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by rjj04 » October 25, 2017, 2:23 pm

WD Purple are CCTV and Red are NAS (more robust) drives. Although, if I'm not mistaken, Toshiba has a decent reputation for drives.
http://www.lazada.co.th/western-wd-purp ... 3G0uZ&ff=1
http://www.lazada.co.th/wd-1-tb-red-nas ... 7NpFD&ff=1



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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by rjj04 » October 25, 2017, 2:30 pm

s/w to connect a harddisk? I'd imagine that the NVR will detect and mount the drive automatically... but as I said.. never owned an NVR :)

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by glalt » October 25, 2017, 5:24 pm

I know nothing about these systems other than we had a four camera system installed last week. The name of the system is AST by Astun Tech. The recorder is H 264 digital video recorder. I am especially impressed with the range of the IR camera lights. The cost of the entire system and installation was 14,000 baht. I had to provide the monitor. The installer is a local guy and the system has a one year warranty. He is local and he will maintain the system after the warranty expires. He did a nice job. The cameras can be monitored with a cell phone. I should add that the installation was not easy.

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Post by kopkei » October 26, 2017, 6:26 am

what the sw of the hard drive is concerned , i did change once the hard drive of my dvd recorder and without
pre-configered software the machine was not working , had to send it to bkk firm to upload the needed driver...,
so i was thinking it would be the same with the nvr ?, anyway next month our son in law is visiting and he has better knowledge about these things as me ,
thanks again for the extra info on this guy's .. ;)

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by RLTrader » October 26, 2017, 6:00 pm

WTF is an NVR? Guess I need to duckduckgo it.

https://www.securitycameraking.com/secu ... ifference/

As far as I know when looking at DVR's none came with a HD, always was an extra. When I changed DVR's I pulled the HD from the old (1TB) and put into the new. Booted up and No problemo.

Would think the same for a NVR

god this post did get to busy/deep to read it all

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by RLTrader » October 26, 2017, 6:17 pm

RLTrader wrote:
October 26, 2017, 6:00 pm
WTF is an NVR? Guess I need to duckduckgo it.

https://www.securitycameraking.com/secu ... ifference/

As far as I know when looking at DVR's none came with a HD, always was an extra. When I changed DVR's I pulled the HD from the old (1TB) and put into the new. Booted up and No problemo.

Would think the same for a NVR

god this post did get to busy/deep to read it all
oh, sometime maybe tomorrow I plan on reading the above link, but in the meantime, just wondering if I put my DVR on the Network (which it is) does that make it a NVR? :D

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by rjj04 » October 26, 2017, 9:07 pm

RLTrader wrote:
October 26, 2017, 6:00 pm
WTF is an NVR? Guess I need to duckduckgo it.

https://www.securitycameraking.com/secu ... ifference/

As far as I know when looking at DVR's none came with a HD, always was an extra. When I changed DVR's I pulled the HD from the old (1TB) and put into the new. Booted up and No problemo.

Would think the same for a NVR

god this post did get to busy/deep to read it all
wikipedia is your friend...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_video_recorder

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by DoctorFix » November 2, 2017, 8:54 pm

rjj04 wrote:
October 20, 2017, 1:54 pm
Analog cameras can just as well be connected via UTP (Cat 5/6) cable. I have more than a dozen that were done that way and it works perfectly well. You just need to buy a BNC to terminal or BNC to RJ45 converter/balun... very cheap. Remember, if you use Coax you will need to have another separate 12V supply line to the cameras. With Cat5/6 POE you can use one cable for power and signal/data, and use one central 12V supply for many cameras. Balun example...
Very interesting.... House we are in now once had a significant analog setup with cable run all over the place, cameras gone and cable remained, but I didn't know you could convert from BNC to RJ45. I gather you'd still need to keep the power supplies connected and not able to use the POE of the Cat cable?

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Post by rjj04 » November 3, 2017, 7:04 am

DoctorFix wrote:
November 2, 2017, 8:54 pm
rjj04 wrote:
October 20, 2017, 1:54 pm
Analog cameras can just as well be connected via UTP (Cat 5/6) cable. I have more than a dozen that were done that way and it works perfectly well. You just need to buy a BNC to terminal or BNC to RJ45 converter/balun... very cheap. Remember, if you use Coax you will need to have another separate 12V supply line to the cameras. With Cat5/6 POE you can use one cable for power and signal/data, and use one central 12V supply for many cameras. Balun example...
Very interesting.... House we are in now once had a significant analog setup with cable run all over the place, cameras gone and cable remained, but I didn't know you could convert from BNC to RJ45. I gather you'd still need to keep the power supplies connected and not able to use the POE of the Cat cable?
Sorry, I'm a bit confused, your house has coaxial cable installed?

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Post by rjj04 » November 3, 2017, 7:58 am

In the early days of Ethernet it used coaxial cable, but after switched Ethernet came along it moved to Cat X cable.

If you have some coax cable installed for CCTV cameras, and you don't want to change it out and put in Cat 5/6 cable, but you want to install IP Cameras, then there is an option to buy something like these EoC (Ethernet over Coaxial) adapters
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/EoC-Eth ... 308948ca27

At $32 for one (and you would need two for each link) it is quite expensive.

If your coax also has a power line (or power is coming from a source local to the camera) then you are set, if it doesn't then you can buy something like this to also deliver power
EoC (Ethernet over Coaxial) and PoC (Power over Coaxial) devices....
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Slave-P ... 308948ca27

Note, I have zero hands on experience with this sort of equipment... so do your due diligence :)

Apparently there is a new standard called MOCA (multimedia over Coax) that will allow standard TV, HDMI, and Ethernet to share a single coax cable. I just learned this, so I guess Coax isn't so out of date as I had once thought.

Of course there is always "wireless" IP cameras (which still need a power wire of course).

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Post by bigsnake » November 7, 2017, 10:32 am

Had mine for years love it. Have connect to my Ipad/mobile can monitor the place whenever I travel, no need to line the pockets of the 191 folks, nuff said! Many dealers can be found around major shopping area, Big C, Tesco Lotus, extra, etc

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by DoctorFix » November 10, 2017, 5:07 pm

rjj04 wrote:
November 3, 2017, 7:04 am
DoctorFix wrote:
November 2, 2017, 8:54 pm
rjj04 wrote:
October 20, 2017, 1:54 pm
Analog cameras can just as well be connected via UTP (Cat 5/6) cable. I have more than a dozen that were done that way and it works perfectly well. You just need to buy a BNC to terminal or BNC to RJ45 converter/balun... very cheap. Remember, if you use Coax you will need to have another separate 12V supply line to the cameras. With Cat5/6 POE you can use one cable for power and signal/data, and use one central 12V supply for many cameras. Balun example...
Very interesting.... House we are in now once had a significant analog setup with cable run all over the place, cameras gone and cable remained, but I didn't know you could convert from BNC to RJ45. I gather you'd still need to keep the power supplies connected and not able to use the POE of the Cat cable?
Sorry, I'm a bit confused, your house has coaxial cable installed?
Yes, it does have coax running all over the place but based on your mentioning the cost fact for the coax to ethernet converters it doesn't make sense to convert. Better to invest in a newer setup with matching cameras as this nightmare appears to have used multiple different cameras but I did find a watashi box packed away along with another German system and with the five or six cameras that were left behind I guess I could kludge something together.

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by rjj04 » November 11, 2017, 1:50 am

Another option is, if you want to use wireless IP cameras, but you think the distance is too far to be reliable, you can use an old wireless router to extend your houses wireless range. I've done this before. It seems, every time you change a service here (TOT, 3BB, etc) they throw in a new wireless router, so I'm sure a lot of people have old ones sitting around. They are great for getting a good signal out tens of meters more. I think most new-ish wireless routers have a menu item to allow you to easily set it into wireless repeater mode. Just another option to think about if you hadn't already.

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Re: residential CCTV security system

Post by DoctorFix » November 11, 2017, 1:43 pm

Depends on the router, yeah. There are quite a few orphaned routers lying around but they don't all appear to be easily configurable as either a repeater or access point. Another one of my projects I guess

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Post by Ray.Charles » November 13, 2017, 9:05 pm

My wife owns a rental building monitored by 14 cameras (wireless). Until recently, it was possible to monitor activities through a smartphone with access to internet; now that can not be done. Everything else, local monitoring, recording, can still be done. The original installer can not be contacted. Can you recommend a technician to fix the system to allow remote monitoring. The building is in NongSamRong.
Thanks in advance.

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Post by LingKyle » November 13, 2017, 9:08 pm

Is this still the case? I could maybe take a look :)

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Post by Ray.Charles » November 14, 2017, 7:50 am

Thanks for your prompt response.
Please connect with me by e-mail: [email protected] or call 089 843 7158.
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Post by Ray.Charles » November 21, 2017, 8:44 am

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Post by glalt » November 21, 2017, 10:28 am

I have a confession to make. I bought a D-Link kit with a single WiFi camera. I bought D-Link because they said that if everything is D-Link, the system is very simple to install. I paid about 7,400 baht for the system. Apparently I am not smart enough to get the system working. I was able to get the camera to work and can see the camera on my computer and cell phone. The problem is with the modem and the NVR. I cannot record. Apparently the software is out of date and I am not able to update from the Internet. I get a message from my computer that something is corrupted. I thought it was my computer but I tried it on my wife's computer and still get the same message. D-Link was absolutely no help. Never will I buy anything D-Link again. I should mention the the camera also sucks. The picture is not good at all.

After wasting a LOT of time I bought a four camera system including installation from a local guy for 14,000 baht. It works great. I had to furnish the monitor. The only problem is that I cannot add more cameras. The system can only handle four. If I had it to do over again, I'd buy a larger system. My wife has several tons of rice stored and I am using the piece of crap D-Link WiFi camera to monitor the rice. Probably mostly useless because of no recording capability.

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