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Post by pompui » March 30, 2014, 7:17 am

Looking forward to next month to finally moving from extension based on marriage to retirement after 8 years of hassle,sounds like a breeze =D>
And do the 90 day at the same time =D>



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Post by merchant seaman » March 30, 2014, 7:29 am

One of the benefits of getting old.
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Post by SanukJoe » March 30, 2014, 8:07 am

Ok gentlemen, thanks for reassuring, feel relaxed now.

Have to mention that the paper is from December 2008, so not new, and of course it's up to each IO to apply or not. Glad to hear that Udon is not bothering about it. I know Nongkhai does.

My embassy letter is in English, with official stamp. My pension comes in on my Thai bank account, so just a matter of looking at the amounts per month and they know all.

Thanks again! =D>

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Post by papaguido » March 30, 2014, 8:38 am

Khun Paul wrote:This i9s true, I also have used the English letter from the British Embassy, but never asked for a translation, I do however get a copy of the days exchange rate from an international exchange rate web=-site to make their life easier. In fact I have never had the letter translated, maybe it is just that after 10 years of renewing they know that UK pensions rise and as the figure goes up so must the amount.
They were some IO's that were a tad awkward in dealing with this matter, but generally now i feel that they are all on the same page.
Translation not required...
"Evidence of income in English or Thai language, other language must be translated and verified."

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Post by SanukJoe » March 30, 2014, 10:50 am

Don't know how the issue of Embassy letter to be translated into Thai turned up, I did not mention it, just that the Embassy STAMP had to be verified by MFA in Bangkok. But obviously Udon Immigration does not bother about it.

I know from a Dutch guy who applies in Nongkhai that all letters have to be translated, by a lawyer, into Thai, Embassy stamp verified by MFA, so it is depending on the IO whether or not you pass the "sabaai" route or the complicated one :)

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Post by davecryan » March 30, 2014, 11:24 am

SanukJoe wrote:Don't know how the issue of Embassy letter to be translated into Thai turned up, I did not mention it, just that the Embassy STAMP had to be verified by MFA in Bangkok. But obviously Udon Immigration does not bother about it.

I know from a Dutch guy who applies in Nongkhai that all letters have to be translated, by a lawyer, into Thai, Embassy stamp verified by MFA, so it is depending on the IO whether or not you pass the "sabaai" route or the complicated one :)
I have made my Retirement extension in Nong Khai for the last 5 years on Pension value. Have supplied a letter from the British Embassy ( in English ) and a printout of my UK Bank Account for the previous 12 months. Have had no problems and have NEVER been asked for a translation or verification.

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Post by parrot » March 30, 2014, 11:40 am

SanukJoe, one of the things I've learned about immigration rules is: listen to what the majority of people say rather than what one says. If someone says something substantially different than what you've heard (income letter must be translated into Thai), best to ask the question on this forum and see what some of the veterans say. There's lots of misinformation floating out there....but the reality is that the rules rarely change....and when they do, it quickly becomes common knowledge among the veterans who go through the process on a regular basis.
Time accounts, income letters translating into Thai, increases in bank deposit requirements, tea money requirements......among a long list of things that people say have changed.....when in reality, few things over the years have changed.
Do the rest of the forum members a favor and report your results after you go. Thanks!

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Post by SanukJoe » March 30, 2014, 12:21 pm

Parrot, to start with the last: surely I will report after application, and I am sure that it will be no hassle, as like you say I believe the majority of veterans here on UM and they have given me right advise and I have no reason to worry whatsoever.

Still there are always points of discussion or questions. Like on the Udon IO paper it clearly says the embassy stamp has to be verified by MFA. I am comfortable with the knowledge that Udon IO does not implement that rule, but it could be implemented at other IO's.

My system always is: hear people, talk to more people, ask on a forum (other than ThaiVisa) and make up your mind. UM has always been a source of reliable info for me and I stick to that, on top Udon is what we talk about and UM has mainly (if not all) members who reside in and around Udon, so "the place to be".

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Post by SanukJoe » May 6, 2014, 8:39 pm

As requested and promised, here my report of today, 6 May 2014, re extension based on 65K per month minimum income:

It was a smooth operation, had to wait 15 minutes and extension done in the next 15 minutes, thanks to the "smooth female operator" (officer). It included change of passport (costs 500 baht).

Important is what I had to show and what I apparently took with me for nothing (just to be sure).

Needed:

1. Application form with photo
2. Passport
3. Copies of passport pages that relate to earlier extensions, and the photo page
4. Copy of entry card
5. Copy of yellow housebook
6. Income letter of Embassy
7. Routing map from Udon to your house (Google Earth)
8. 2000 baht

Not needed:

1a. Bankbook (I also had made copies of my on line banking of this year, per month printed)
2a. Blue housebook
3a. Pension confirmation by Pension fund
4a. Photo of the house

I was surprised that the Embassy letter was sufficient, as the income stated on it is given by the applicant, you could in theory fill out any amount, the officer then calculated how much baht per month and said it's ok.
It is therefor that I took my bank info with me plus the confirmations of the two pensions. Not necessary :)

So all in one a smooth and easy application, my former extension ends 14 May and correctly the new extension starts at 14 May and lasts until 14 May next year. Correct and friendly staff, that works with a smile. Hat off!

BTW I saw now for the first time the coffee shop in front of Immigration. Very handy, either for a coffee whilst waiting, or after finishing the application.

Thanks again to those UM members who helped me this first time on income, they took away many misunderstandings, caused by wrong info plus the fact that other offices sometimes work differently.

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Post by FrazeeDK » May 7, 2014, 6:57 am

no request for contributions to the "coffee fund" or "tips" or perhaps a misquoted total cost resulting in the officer keeping the difference?
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Post by socksy » May 7, 2014, 7:06 am

FrazeeDK wrote:no request for contributions to the "coffee fund" or "tips" or perhaps a misquoted total cost resulting in the officer keeping the difference?
100 baht for the officer?
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Post by tutone » May 7, 2014, 7:30 am

I did my 1 year renewal last week. In and out in less than 30 minutes. Gave them 2000 Baht and received 100 Baht change with no request for tip or coffee fund. Although not officially required, I always take my bankbook in addition to embassy affidavit, because one year I was asked to show it. Not sure why, but occasionally they throw in something new. Went there with my wife a couple of years ago and they wanted to see her blue house book and my yellow book. I think they can ask for whatever suits them at the moment. But all in all have never had any problems and is always a fast painless experience.

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Post by SanukJoe » May 7, 2014, 8:35 am

FrazeeDK wrote:no request for contributions to the "coffee fund" or "tips" or perhaps a misquoted total cost resulting in the officer keeping the difference?
I took 2000 baht out of my wallet, gave it to the officer and put away my wallet. That is a silent sign of: it's ok, you can keep the change ;)

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Post by SanukJoe » May 7, 2014, 8:42 am

I think better go alone, direct communication with the officer, no misunderstandings.

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Post by kopkei » May 7, 2014, 9:35 am

the 500 baht for transferring the visa to the new passport was also all ready coffee fund money ...
as they did this with me too and no receipt ....the visa transfer is supposed to be free....TIT... ;)

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Post by FrazeeDK » May 7, 2014, 7:04 pm

and of course, most of us just shake our heads and walk away after somebody's gotten their beak wet... There's always that thought that if you raise a stink that it'll come back on you no matter how right it is to oppose any corruption be it done with a smile or whatever..
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Post by SanukJoe » May 9, 2014, 1:53 pm

kopkei wrote:the 500 baht for transferring the visa to the new passport was also all ready coffee fund money ...
as they did this with me too and no receipt ....the visa transfer is supposed to be free....TIT... ;)
You got this a bit wrong. It's not about transferring the visa to a new passport. It's about transferring the old passport dates to the new passport, i.e. stamping, writing info about the previous extensions, officially declaring the new passport for valid.
I remember last time new passport, in Nongkhai, they wanted me to go to the office, let me wait a while, then transferred necessary info to the new passport, paid also 500 baht.

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Post by mortiboy » May 9, 2014, 2:48 pm

My Passport has only two pages left. When I go UK I need renew.
What do they do with the existing Visa?
Do I get old passport back with the new one?(Expires June '17)
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Post by kopkei » May 9, 2014, 4:58 pm

It's about transferring the old passport dates to the new passport, i.e. stamping, writing info about the previous extensions, officially declaring the new passport for valid. this is all rubbish joe , so did you get a receipt for paying the 500 baht or did it disappear quickly in the draw? :-k , all this is normally free of charge ... ;)

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Post by phen » May 9, 2014, 6:53 pm

Offcourse we all think this is normal????
At least we accept it as normal. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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