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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by jimjay » July 21, 2017, 10:17 pm

tamada wrote:
July 21, 2017, 10:26 am

Although you 'won' that encounter, there's always the very real possibility that you may encounter a driver who for some reason or other refuses to give way. Two days ago, mid-afternoon and headed west on Phon Phisai in a long tailback due to the traffic lights ahead, an empty tuk-tuk/skylab came flying down the outside, forcing motorbikes to swerve and oncoming cars to pull over and stop. He was leaving about 6" clear either side and NOT slowing down; simply flying. Just before the traffic lights, he shot across and angle parked outside a shop. The motorbike driver that had been forced in behind me was muttering away so if a local is upset, you KNOW it's bad! As I passed the parked tuk-tuk, the drivers head was thrown back, eyes closed either passed out or sleeping. I shouted and he never stirred. I wanted to get out, walk across and plant one on him... or at least remove the keys but sense prevailed.

But for a moment, consider the folly of assuming that this guy was going to give way when you had the legal right of way. That and the following.
Thanks for that Tamada, well said and all quite on point.

Riding the motorbike the last 12 years here and in other provinces I've lived, it's down to a million factors a minute, anything from from various road conditions / situations, or the split-second review of the directional intent of a given driver, I've even found myself reviewing on sight the disposition of various soi dogs at certain times / certain sois day or night, even combinations of soi dogs (not the stuck together ones), or whether their owner is nearby and they'll need to show off with a well-timed bite.

One night I even had to break right coming down our block after the rains as I could see a black scorpion in the road making ready to fight my front wheel from 30 feet away.

Oh and the time two large cattle came charging top speed out of an alley chased by two teenagers laughing it up. They almost flattened a mother/father / baby combo going slowly and carefully down the street. WTF.

Luckily, dealing with the humans here much easier by comparison. =D>

That said as I get older I consider the bike a statistic on two wheels, it's not down to "if", it's down to "when". Went past the barrier today and it looks like things have been reconfigured though I didn't give it time for an extended peek. I did have to weave past what appeared to be red plastic shards of broken tail lights.

p.s. I think I have encountered that tuk-tuk passed out driver you mention, -let me guess his name is somchai, and he lives by a temple that's near a 7-11 :D



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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » July 22, 2017, 11:38 am

jimjay, you know perfectly well that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY of those things ......

It's all to do with whether you have a garland of flowers or a buddha image attached to your bike :roll:

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by wazza » July 23, 2017, 12:11 pm

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These stats are scary and seem to be under reported .

I was talking to an Alien a few nights ago and we agreed that if there is a 50/50 chance on a traffic maneuver they will take it, probably more like 60% , expecting the innocent 3rd party that is threatened to take evasive action to avoid a collision.

And thats just in the city.

Overtaken by a pickup on Srichumchun Road yesterday as I was slowing down for the school pedestrian crossing at Udon Pitt, had any student commenced to start walking they would have all been killed.

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » July 24, 2017, 7:09 pm

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July 21, 2017, 5:21 pm
Just a thought, but now they have closed the old U turn how the hell are buses and trucks with trailers supposed to turn, as they have no chance of getting round the new tight (fast lane to fast lane) u turn

I presume they will have to go beyond the barriers and then do a U turn where there is room down past the petrol station :yikes:
Anyone now wanting to u turn North to South has to go to Tesco's lights or do a U before the start of the road works.

Perhaps someone should think about putting barriers all along the centre of the road or it will be total chaos ...... 'ang on TIT, they specialise in CHAOS :-&
Got my question answered today, and I was wrong ...... NO! .... NEVER!! ...... Yeah really.

Bus used the new U Turn to go from NK road to the bus station (South to North). As suspected it was a close thing with the driver taking it very very VERY slowly. He then had to reverse back (as there is not enough room for him to turn) before completing the manouvre. It was in the afternoon so not too busy, but still about 20 or so had to stop whilst he got round ..... going to be great when one does it in the rush hour :roll:

Also noted (in less than 30 seconds) 2 x pick up, one saloon car and one truck come from the side road, cross the Southbound carriageway,go BETWEEN the orange white posts and head off North (with the truck and a pick up at the same time between separate posts ](*,)

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » August 4, 2017, 4:30 pm

Just come back from School run and there are 4 or 5 pickups and a truck blocking the "U" turn and they appear to be picking the concrete barriers up and placing them on the truck for removal [-o< :lol:

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 5, 2017, 10:15 am

stattointhailand wrote:
August 4, 2017, 4:30 pm
Just come back from School run and there are 4 or 5 pickups and a truck blocking the "U" turn and they appear to be picking the concrete barriers up and placing them on the truck for removal [-o< :lol:
Bugger me statto... it's a bloody 4-way intersection. What barriers EXACTLY are getting shifted?

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » August 5, 2017, 12:42 pm

The ones that are in the pics on this thread, Route 2 (NK - Udon Rd) South of Tesco junction next to garden centre and near the new petrol station :roll:

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 8, 2017, 9:48 am

stattointhailand wrote:
August 5, 2017, 12:42 pm
The ones that are in the pics on this thread, Route 2 (NK - Udon Rd) South of Tesco junction next to garden centre and near the new petrol station :roll:
Went by today and noted that the u-turn at the pointy end had been removed and they reopened the one just north of it, blocking off the outside lane accordingly. I guess the PTT gas station and garden shop owners bought someone dinner!

Also noted today that they have extended the northbound 'fast' lane closure with blocks further towards the traffic lights in preparation of the tunneling team moving in their heavy plant. Looks like 2-lanes will be the order of the day for the next, oh, I don't know but based on the KK and Pattaya tunnels, maybe 3-4 years?

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 8, 2017, 3:32 pm

I can hardly wait...
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2020.... maybe

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » August 8, 2017, 5:39 pm

I don't know but based on the KK and Pattaya tunnels, maybe 3-4 years?

How long did the Big C flyover take ? and then ADD an underpass :shock:

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by parrot » August 8, 2017, 6:28 pm

Due to be complete on 1 September 2019. t.i.t. I'd expect workarounds to be changed on a regular basis to try and keep traffic flowing around the construction.

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » August 8, 2017, 6:54 pm

Just worked out a route through the potholes that will get me from Nong Khai road to come out near Global House lights for when the direct route gets undrivable. From there its via Nong Sim and into town (assuming its not DB school clusterf*** time)

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Post by macca46 » August 8, 2017, 7:09 pm

The other problem statts there will be 5000 + motorists thinking the same just another cluster ****

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by stattointhailand » August 8, 2017, 8:02 pm

Macca, with this route, it will only take one other (from opposite direction) to cause a C/F on these tracks :lol:

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by FrazeeDK » August 9, 2017, 8:51 am

so, with this large infrastructure project fouling up traffic, where is the "outer ring road" and the other east side bypass that have been in the plans for years?? Those routes would alleviate the problems encountered with this bridge/tunnel project.
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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 9, 2017, 11:53 am

FrazeeDK wrote:
August 9, 2017, 8:51 am
so, with this large infrastructure project fouling up traffic, where is the "outer ring road" and the other east side bypass that have been in the plans for years?? Those routes would alleviate the problems encountered with this bridge/tunnel project.
I know that had a stakeholders meeting last January or February at the Siamgrand hotel. Neighbors kid attended but I never followed up on what was said or planned.

Pretty much going to place Irish George on the southbound side if it comes through between the ring road and Nong Sai as planned.

There's plenty wasted space with these wide central medians on the east ring road. They could easily add a third lane each way. Otherwise there's just going to be longer tailbacks at the Sam Phrao, Nongsai and Sakhon Nakhon traffic lights.

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 12, 2017, 4:35 pm

tamada wrote:
August 8, 2017, 9:48 am
Also noted today that they have extended the northbound 'fast' lane closure with blocks further towards the traffic lights in preparation of the tunneling team moving in their heavy plant. Looks like 2-lanes will be the order of the day for the next, oh, I don't know but based on the KK and Pattaya tunnels, maybe 3-4 years?
North bound lane nearest the median now blocked north of the junction towards KK. Watch out when turning right towards KK from the east side ring road as suddenly 3 lanes become 2 and there's merging stuff flying in from the Tesco-Lotus side too. Of course today being Saturday and very busy, they have a huge back-hoe clearing the ditches on the south side of the ring road between the railroad crossing and the traffic lights... and leave it parked in the slow lane when they're finished.

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by rick » August 13, 2017, 4:43 pm

On Friday night it took me nearly 30 minutes to get from Global House to the Nong Khai road junction. I thought it was maybe because of the work ripping up the hard (and not so hard) shoulders on the ring road, as now happening on both sides. It didn't help, but the main part of the problem was a lane (and a half) blocked off immediately after the lights on the Nong Khai road, Result was bottleneck on all Nong Khai bound traffic (which makes up typically over half of the ring road traffic coming from Global house direction) let alone what comes from the other 2 ......

I think in future a detour through town will be preferable!

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Re: Serious Traffic Hazard

Post by tamada » August 19, 2017, 9:59 pm

Did a double-take today when I saw the red and white 'turn restrictors' had been totally removed from the u-turn just east of Tesco-Lotus on the north ring road. First they had them blocking off the 'fast lanes' which caused accidents, then they were moved to permit 3 lanes each way but stop the multiple vehicles turning at once which worked great. Now they're gone completely so back to a 3-way, 3-abreast free-for-all.

I reckon some business(es) down Phibun must have sprung for dinner or two for the city traffic planner.

Or looking at google earth, maybe they're going to use that as part of a bypass for the inevitable blockages at the traffic lights.

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