How about give the little bastards back to their parents and stop being a whipping boy?

I have got rid of the thoms . A bucket of water over the three of them in bed and a lot of shouting did the trick but my wife is not happy . Glat you are right i will be looking for an apartment for a month with the kids , perhaps ruy suk 2 or bb resort with swimming pool , then look for something relatively cheap near christian school . Can do as i get my visa on 28 april and dont have to keep the money in the bank just would be a lot easier if got even a few thousand baht a month from their parents .
I know i made a rod for my own back but it sort of crept up on me bit more every month but the fact is i have 2 lovely little boys who do not want to go with anyone else who i love very much and now have no choice but to look after them come what may
. Hoopoe , "post for all to see "was when i posted after i threw the thoms out (i did not know they were not coming back then ) they took the boys out in the car , my wife went after them and i was alone in the house feeling pretty low so i wrote the post thinking a problem shared etc

saint wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 6:33 am

dragonz wrote: ↑

April 18, 2019, 4:19 pm

saint wrote: ↑

April 16, 2019, 1:24 pm

You reap what you sow . just saying . However im curious why you gave a guy trying to sell his MU7 not so long ago, such a hard time , then telling him you wanted a pick up , if you dont have a pot to piss in ?
But i now understand why you are such a bitter little man .

you are the backside of a donkey . i was giving the guy a hard time as his post was and is a load of bull . I never said i do not have a pot to piss in just my pension does not go far enough to rent a place in the city and pay for 2 little boys whio i love dearly

In your opinion it was bull . We all have opinions . In my opinion it was genuine , see opinions .
And yes i may well be the backside of a donkey (another opinion ) but you are not going to pin your tail on me !!!!!
Out of interest , you being the good samaritan and all .
You paid an old woman 10, 000 baht for a baby , was any of this legal , even in Thailand . Just curious .

A guywas selling a pickup done 137,000 kms but the photos were of a brand new engine and a locked unopened pick up parked in a car park of a tesco lotus in bangkok which i worked out when he i blew up the photos . He never said it was in bbk until i queried it. Said a thai never drove it but the seat was so far forward could only be for thai , could not see it as it was in his workshop putting NEW underseal on in a country which does not have or need underseal so could not view it . heh so you want to believe it up to you i was just pointing out to udon map members be careful thats all which i think is a good thing.
Actually it was my wife who paid the women 10,000 baht of my money , i had been here for a year then and knew little of the underlying thai evil that permeates this society. All i know it took a lot of work and money to keep him alive the first few years and if he had stayed there he would have died . Are you curious about that or is the money all important to you

glalt wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 12:17 pm

I think school is out so you could take the boys on a holiday. Money shouldn't be a problem since the family could not leech off you. Rent a decent place for a month or so and see if there is an attitude change at home.

As long as they didnt try and make a complaint over that if OP is not the legal guardian of the kids, or maybe it wouldnt bother them but you never know how twisted folk can be in these situations.

I think he could cover himself by leaving a note saying that him and the boys were taking a holiday and leaving a phone number for any emergencies. In any case, I'd take a chance.

saint wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 6:33 am

dragonz wrote: ↑

April 18, 2019, 4:19 pm

saint wrote: ↑

April 16, 2019, 1:24 pm

You reap what you sow . just saying . However im curious why you gave a guy trying to sell his MU7 not so long ago, such a hard time , then telling him you wanted a pick up , if you dont have a pot to piss in ?
But i now understand why you are such a bitter little man .

you are the backside of a donkey . i was giving the guy a hard time as his post was and is a load of bull . I never said i do not have a pot to piss in just my pension does not go far enough to rent a place in the city and pay for 2 little boys whio i love dearly

In your opinion it was bull . We all have opinions . In my opinion it was genuine , see opinions .
And yes i may well be the backside of a donkey (another opinion ) but you are not going to pin your tail on me !!!!!
Out of interest , you being the good samaritan and all .
You paid an old woman 10, 000 baht for a baby , was any of this legal , even in Thailand . Just curious .

Contemptible.

Hoopoe wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 11:02 am

An old friend of mine Major John,(rip) once quoted if you show Kindness most of the time it will be taken as a sign of weakness , IF YOU DON"T TAKE CONTROL , they will abuse your kindness AGAIN & AGAIN , thereby creating a rod for your own back .
If your family shows no support (eg Wife )remove any and all funds , don't forget if you have a pension that she will get a % of when you kick the bucket you can also remove that showing her, if you still get no support ,i'm afraid it's time to leave.
IN my opinion the OP( because of his kindness ) has made a huge rod for his back , but other than "post for all to see" is not doing anything about it ,SOM NOM NAH

You were doing well up until that last sentence. Contemptible.

You and your dead friend.

I don't agree that most of the time kindness is taken advantage of.

It takes courage to be kind because you are taking a risk that you will be taken advantage of.
I see being kind as a risky but necessary part of living a full human life. Of course you may get screwed sometimes, but a wise person doesn't let it happen twice. Give kindness where kindness is deserved.

“Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me.”
― Al Capone

In my opinion the OP has done a very kind thing and probably wrote the post in exasberation hoping there was somw aid somewhere but unfortunatley has been given scorn by many.
Also not sure why a man who has been dead 4 years is being given the treatment of Hoopoe who I cant see knew John well at all John was and agile sharp caring guy till illness took over the last years of his life allways taking his daughter and her friends out big parties for her Bdays certainly not a guy who would be day and night every day yes he liked a drink and a chat and enjoyed his walks everyday his friends still show there respects with help to his widow and family I doubt this would happen to man who showed no kindness

Sorry if I spoke ill of the man. . I did not know the man or who he was. Sounds like he was a good man.

tamada wrote: ↑

April 20, 2019, 8:08 am

saint wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 6:33 am

dragonz wrote: ↑

April 18, 2019, 4:19 pm

saint wrote: ↑

April 16, 2019, 1:24 pm

You reap what you sow . just saying . However im curious why you gave a guy trying to sell his MU7 not so long ago, such a hard time , then telling him you wanted a pick up , if you dont have a pot to piss in ?
But i now understand why you are such a bitter little man .

you are the backside of a donkey . i was giving the guy a hard time as his post was and is a load of bull . I never said i do not have a pot to piss in just my pension does not go far enough to rent a place in the city and pay for 2 little boys whio i love dearly

In your opinion it was bull . We all have opinions . In my opinion it was genuine , see opinions .
And yes i may well be the backside of a donkey (another opinion ) but you are not going to pin your tail on me !!!!!
Out of interest , you being the good samaritan and all .
You paid an old woman 10, 000 baht for a baby , was any of this legal , even in Thailand . Just curious .

Contemptible.

Yep i agree . Coming from an expert , ill take it as a compliment .
Theres two sides to this story , we are only hearing one side . Just like bar talk !!!!!

MusicalBars wrote: ↑

April 20, 2019, 10:37 am

In my opinion the OP has done a very kind thing and probably wrote the post in exasberation hoping there was somw aid somewhere but unfortunatley has been given scorn by many.
Also not sure why a man who has been dead 4 years is being given the treatment of Hoopoe who I cant see knew John well at all John was and agile sharp caring guy till illness took over the last years of his life allways taking his daughter and her friends out big parties for her Bdays certainly not a guy who would be day and night every day yes he liked a drink and a chat and enjoyed his walks everyday his friends still show there respects with help to his widow and family I doubt this would happen to man who showed no kindness

Thank you for your comments defending Major John's reputation.
Its nice to see that his memory is still in peoples minds.
He was my very good friend & his wife has just left my house 20 mins ago after a visit for a couple of drinks & food with other friends.

yes pal52 I have to admit some of the comments had my blood boiling I knew John nothing like as much as yourself and although I am sure he may have said for people to be cautious he was a very kind man and was awful to see how quickly his illness came on I know you are still in contact with his family and are another gent

Holiday ..... I just took my daughter on her first holiday last month at age 7. One week cost 20,000 baht. Unfortunately the practical necessities often consume 100% of my pension, holidays are a luxury. Mortgage, fuel bills, loans and insurance, food and school fees come first, and there are always house repairs waiting for sufficient cash to be fixed. Like DragonZ, I spent 7 years waiting for my state pension and meanwhile had to continually top up my monthly spend from savings, wondering if they would run out ..... I made it to the pension, but need to rebuild my savings, so brakes are still on.

Although i do not think i would have had the resolve to deal with Dragon's family issues, and fortunately do not suffer that, I fully understand the financial strait jacket he has experienced.

Some might say if you do not have sufficient money, you shouldn't be here. Exchange rates, health issues, other family issues back in home country, can all make substantial dents in your expectations.

Musical bars , The passing on of wise words from someone is treatment by your standards ,i think you'll find words like this are written everywhere you look, as for not knowing the Gent try 15 years , so with that here's another bunch , " stay on amber be prepared to leave at short notice " I know why he used this set of words ,Many won't ,

JEllO , you didn't say anything wrong you only gave your views ,opinion on KINDNESS which is respected by most on here , and yes he was a fine Gentleman always dressed and polished ,

TAM , nowt better than CONTEMPTIBLE , CONTEMPTIBLE ,

SAINT , yes this is just like bar talk , there are 2 sides to every story , more to this than is being told , possibility , the free health cover has kept him quiet for so long , but now it's beyond responsibility , he posted i assume looking for peoples views and not just to be lavished with praise , it would seem that only some views are acceptable ,
Twould appear ( i thought impossible ) snowflakes have arrived ,

dragonz wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 3:27 pm

I have got rid of the thoms . A bucket of water over the three of them in bed and a lot of shouting did the trick but my wife is not happy . Glat you are right i will be looking for an apartment for a month with the kids , perhaps ruy suk 2 or bb resort with swimming pool , then look for something relatively cheap near christian school . Can do as i get my visa on 28 april and dont have to keep the money in the bank just would be a lot easier if got even a few thousand baht a month from their parents .
I know i made a rod for my own back but it sort of crept up on me bit more every month but the fact is i have 2 lovely little boys who do not want to go with anyone else who i love very much and now have no choice but to look after them come what may
. Hoopoe , "post for all to see "was when i posted after i threw the thoms out (i did not know they were not coming back then ) they took the boys out in the car , my wife went after them and i was alone in the house feeling pretty low so i wrote the post thinking a problem shared etc

Dragonz ,
well isnt this a turn up for the books , I have only just seen this, something fishy has gone on with the dates of the post's ,
Congratulations , no one could be more pleased than i , anything i posted was as i see things in reality ,i do not dress things up,some like me for it some hate me for it ,
I also have brought up 2 boy's ,but wasn't in the enviable position of you ( sounds bad don't it ,wait ) you have had them from being babies , therefore (enviable position ) taught right from wrong , politeness , i don't need to go on and on , i on the other hand became the step father at the age your 2 boys are now ,the eldest was great ,(ish he had ways of extracting money from his mother) no other problems , BUT the youngest was wild as hell ,he finally after many many problems left school at 11 , his mother (still my wife happily married all this time ) undermined anything i said to him or did ,So i gave her the reign's with the words get on with it , when you can't sort the problem out then ask me ( but get out of the way )by this time there were drugs underage sex etc etc, the amount of times i've spent in the police station's (note plural) unreal ,( by the by just as a note for all to see , the under age sex ,she was 16 he was 17 , into the police station again (udon this time )the family (her ) agreed on 10,000 bht and they wont press charges, ha ha beggers belief , good job i stayed in the truck (they hadn't seen me ) it would have been at least double ,
So wife comes to me ,now i take charge ,i closed every bolt hole he had ,i went round to every house (familys inlaws out laws the lot ) they at last listened , so now nowhere to go he comes home ,high as a kite ,, i wait till all is good ,then wait for the lies ,and physically booted him down the street ,Theres a lot more than this but i'll stop here ,
by the way it gets more costly as you put them through uni ,
Wishing you well for the future , i think the misses may change now

Hoopoe wrote: ↑

April 21, 2019, 11:03 pm

dragonz wrote: ↑

April 19, 2019, 3:27 pm

I have got rid of the thoms . A bucket of water over the three of them in bed and a lot of shouting did the trick but my wife is not happy . Glat you are right i will be looking for an apartment for a month with the kids , perhaps ruy suk 2 or bb resort with swimming pool , then look for something relatively cheap near christian school . Can do as i get my visa on 28 april and dont have to keep the money in the bank just would be a lot easier if got even a few thousand baht a month from their parents .
I know i made a rod for my own back but it sort of crept up on me bit more every month but the fact is i have 2 lovely little boys who do not want to go with anyone else who i love very much and now have no choice but to look after them come what may
. Hoopoe , "post for all to see "was when i posted after i threw the thoms out (i did not know they were not coming back then ) they took the boys out in the car , my wife went after them and i was alone in the house feeling pretty low so i wrote the post thinking a problem shared etc

Dragonz ,
well isnt this a turn up for the books , I have only just seen this, something fishy has gone on with the dates of the post's ,
Congratulations , no one could be more pleased than i , anything i posted was as i see things in reality ,i do not dress things up,some like me for it some hate me for it ,
I also have brought up 2 boy's ,but wasn't in the enviable position of you ( sounds bad don't it ,wait ) you have had them from being babies , therefore (enviable position ) taught right from wrong , politeness , i don't need to go on and on , i on the other hand became the step father at the age your 2 boys are now ,the eldest was great ,(ish he had ways of extracting money from his mother) no other problems , BUT the youngest was wild as hell ,he finally after many many problems left school at 11 , his mother (still my wife happily married all this time ) undermined anything i said to him or did ,So i gave her the reign's with the words get on with it , when you can't sort the problem out then ask me ( but get out of the way )by this time there were drugs underage sex etc etc, the amount of times i've spent in the police station's (note plural) unreal ,( by the by just as a note for all to see , the under age sex ,she was 16 he was 17 , into the police station again (udon this time )the family (her ) agreed on 10,000 bht and they wont press charges, ha ha beggers belief , good job i stayed in the truck (they hadn't seen me ) it would have been at least double ,
So wife comes to me ,now i take charge ,i closed every bolt hole he had ,i went round to every house (familys inlaws out laws the lot ) they at last listened , so now nowhere to go he comes home ,high as a kite ,, i wait till all is good ,then wait for the lies ,and physically booted him down the street ,Theres a lot more than this but i'll stop here ,
by the way it gets more costly as you put them through uni ,
Wishing you well for the future , i think the misses may change now

Yes i have brought my boys up and they are good as gold , excellent behaved , polite never cry never hurt animals not even spiders . Never hit another child ever but my wifes still says i am wrong in everything i do . Her one daughter is the thom i have mentioned , her son is even worse . PAID 40,000 baht for him to join the border patrol in nong khai after 10 yrs of not working , good job decent money , free keep and 15,000 baht a month . He married a nice girl from sakhon nakhon , had 2 kids , built a house with a noodle shop attached , gave him 4 tv`s and play stations from my old cafe . 1 yr later left her came home with young mia noi who stayed for 6 weeks then left . He wanted to go back home wife said no so he went on the whisky and drugs instead . Could not get a girl so started bringing men home same as his sister . Was screwing men 10 metres from me . used to make me sick ,4 yrs of ---- fighting with his drunk friends coming to my house in the middle of the night , beat him a few times even though a lot bigger than me fought like a girl . He went to taiwan a few months ago then his sister took over . They came back today and she look really rough and sick . Dont know waht she is doing but hiv looks likely as i know she has been selling herself but everytime i correct or scold my boys my wife is angry but i just point out what her kids are like.
A bit late reading this as just spent a night at nakha buri resort . Very cheap at the moment at 600 baht on agoda instead of 900 . cost 200 baht a day to swim so swim for 2 days have a room and free breakfast for 600 very god . booked again next weekend . Just me and the boys , no wife

PM sent ,

I predict you will be divorced in the not too distant future...you behavior is far too confrontational with all your in-law family. End of the day they are not "your boys" as you put it....you have no rights.

Pooclover wrote: ↑

April 24, 2019, 3:29 pm

I predict you will be divorced in the not too distant future...you behavior is far too confrontational with all your in-law family. End of the day they are not "your boys" as you put it....you have no rights.

Completely wrong . they are not in laws they are son and daughter . I am not confrontational . Her son is an acloholic drug addict who has crashed 2 motorbikes while drunk and last year hit a car in nakha with a pickup when he was on the lao kow hurt some people and drove off . never got caught
The last time we had a go was when i was in the house alone with the boys and i went to the toilet . When i came out the then 2 yr old was nowhere to be seen . this was at night and 10 mins before a drunk guy came to the house asking for money for whisky . I was panicking , could not find him ,wife never answer the phone , went to the local police but nobody there after about 25 mins her son drove into the house on his bike with the little boy . He was very drunk and falling over . I shouted at him and he laughed so i hit him . 10 mins later he came at me with a machette so i pepper sprayed him .What would you have done ???drunk on whisky driving around at night with a 2 yr old . SOME COUNTRIES THAT WOULD BE JAIL TIME !!!! My wife and family were angry with me because i sprayed him but not angry with him as he did not have an accident .
The end of the day it is night . stupid saying
They are not my boys , what rights do i need ? youagain you are a little dense on understanding . I WANT THEIR PARENTS TO LOOK AFTER THEM !!! They do not want them and the boys do not want to go with them . When their father was here and came home from work he would walk right passed them never say hello no hugs or smiles and very rarely talked to them .
I look after them as i am all they have . I f there was another relative nearby who was good and clean they could look after them . They have 2 choices . live with me or back up with the hill tribes in sukothai .
Their mother came home a few days ago after being away for 5 days . Little boy went to see her , 20 mins back with me . She took him to sleep with her and was knocking on my widow at 11 pm as the boy was crying for me .
might be a bit complicated for you but all i want is for the parents to properly look after the boys or pay some money monthly for me to look after