I see your statement is not from personal experience only hearsay, the roads in India are so much worse hence there is no cred in Thai roads being No 1 for danger, just another crock of sh-t...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 9:13 amMy point was they are too poor to afford wheels,I know the driving and roads are horrendous in India but statistics show Thailand is number one.stick the Thais back on to ox and cart or bicycle and you would see Thailand lose its place at the top.like I've already said I blame the banks and finance companies for arming the Thais with a set of wheels.i think if it wasn't for poverty you would see china,India and Russia all in the top spots.you don't have to visit a country to know what the roads are like,you can read or watch videos.try watching liveleaks.com...or crazyshit.com Thailand hardly pops up.anyway I used to get peed off with Thai driving but I take it with a pinch of salt nowadays,I treat everyone as an idiot on the road and try to stay clear of them.i sold my big bike this year because of these roads and I'm driving to krabi at the end of the month and taking 4 days not 2 to get there and deffo not driving in the dark.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 5:23 amSeems like you haven't been there by that statement...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 9:52 pmProbably because 90% of India are on foot and most don't even see roads and traffic.where Thais are 90% tooled up and love racing.fatbob wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 2:33 pmPersonally I cant see how Thailand has the number one spot, I think there are a lot of country's not in the poll, I have spent time working in India and Indonesia, those two country's are heaps worse just to name two, sorry but I don't believe Thailand has the real number 1 spot.
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Fat I would suggest you go argue with the World Health Organization. Actually the W.H.O have identified Thailand as #2 in the world when it comes to road fatalities.
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OK ALL, here's the file on every single country from 2015, -so you can see for yourselves what the numbers really are.
This is from World Health Organization.
http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prev ... 2.pdf?ua=1
2015 NUMBERS which are the basis of the 2017 report?
CAN ANYONE LOCATE A 2017 REPORT THAT SUPERSEDES THIS? Odd that the papers all write about it but none have given the up to date link.
LOOK AT THE SHARP RISE THAILAND HAS HAD.
INDIA:
Reported road traffic fatalities (2013) 137,572b (85% M, 15% F)
WHO estimated road traffic fatalities 207,551
WHO estimated rate per 100 000 population 16.6
Estimated GDP lost due to road traffic crashes 3.0%
LOOK AT HOW INDIA'S TREND IS COMPARATIVELY "STABLE" and HALF THAT OF THAILAND (if such a word could be used)
If you have another organization, make note of it. But don't just say the organization's name and then not provide some useful document.
It's not supposed to be a p1$$ing contest between India or Thailand.
Easy to agree they both are HELL to drive in right?
This is from World Health Organization.
http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prev ... 2.pdf?ua=1
2015 NUMBERS which are the basis of the 2017 report?
CAN ANYONE LOCATE A 2017 REPORT THAT SUPERSEDES THIS? Odd that the papers all write about it but none have given the up to date link.
THAILAND:
Reported road traffic fatalities (2012) 14,059c (79% M, 21% F)
WHO estimated road traffic fatalities 24,237
WHO estimated rate per 100,000 population 36.2
Estimated GDP lost due to road traffic crashes 3.0%
INDIA:
Reported road traffic fatalities (2013) 137,572b (85% M, 15% F)
WHO estimated road traffic fatalities 207,551
WHO estimated rate per 100 000 population 16.6
Estimated GDP lost due to road traffic crashes 3.0%
If you have another organization, make note of it. But don't just say the organization's name and then not provide some useful document.
It's not supposed to be a p1$$ing contest between India or Thailand.
Easy to agree they both are HELL to drive in right?
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F me, having been on both sets of roads I know where my life felt threatened the most, so some NGO organisation is not going to tell me what I discovered first hand through experience, work it out for yourself, I have...
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That's fine. But you're speaking for yourself. Which is quite fair.
But there's a difference between your very welcome opinion on the matter and especially your legitimate and very real experience of danger vs. the sheer numbers of dead (per capita).
Two totally different things. Can we all at least agree on that? Maybe what we're all on about is still spot on.
One might appreciate that "some NGO you refer to at least tried to cover every single country in the world in this regard and even provide in depth charts as to who has what laws, and even measurements as to levels of enforcement for EACH area of concern, right down to BAC limits and if Local law enforcement can modify the limits.
I'd say such an effort should be appreciated even congratulated, if not respected..
THAILAND has 26% DUE TO ALCOHOL WHEN INDIA HAS 5%.
AND LOOK HOW POOR INDIA IS YET THEY MANAGE TO BE SAFER
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Well let me see
1) you died in India
2) you died in Thailand
As I have stated the stats don't really mater , but just incase you didn't hear YOU ARE DEAD
1) you died in India
2) you died in Thailand
As I have stated the stats don't really mater , but just incase you didn't hear YOU ARE DEAD
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Can someone please direct me to the "motorway" in Thailand which they say has a speed limit of 120kph 
Can't ever remember seeing a 120kph speed limit sign anywhere
Can't ever remember seeing a 120kph speed limit sign anywhere
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It'll probably be the little stretch of road up to a brow of a hill with a U Turn directly after to make it as safe as possible for all concernedstattointhailand wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 10:04 pmCan someone please direct me to the "motorway" in Thailand which they say has a speed limit of 120kph
Can't ever remember seeing a 120kph speed limit sign anywhere
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The motorway which goes from the Number 1 highway to Chonburi and which passes Suvannabhum Airport has numerous signs of 120 kph.stattointhailand wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 10:04 pmCan someone please direct me to the "motorway" in Thailand which they say has a speed limit of 120kph
Can't ever remember seeing a 120kph speed limit sign anywhere
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Ok all these statistics from WHO and other organisations I read about are just hearsay and you know better because you've driven on a road in India.i won't bother reading anymore statistics as they seem to be a crock of sh..t.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 6:37 pmI see your statement is not from personal experience only hearsay, the roads in India are so much worse hence there is no cred in Thai roads being No 1 for danger, just another crock of sh-t...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 9:13 amMy point was they are too poor to afford wheels,I know the driving and roads are horrendous in India but statistics show Thailand is number one.stick the Thais back on to ox and cart or bicycle and you would see Thailand lose its place at the top.like I've already said I blame the banks and finance companies for arming the Thais with a set of wheels.i think if it wasn't for poverty you would see china,India and Russia all in the top spots.you don't have to visit a country to know what the roads are like,you can read or watch videos.try watching liveleaks.com...or crazyshit.com Thailand hardly pops up.anyway I used to get peed off with Thai driving but I take it with a pinch of salt nowadays,I treat everyone as an idiot on the road and try to stay clear of them.i sold my big bike this year because of these roads and I'm driving to krabi at the end of the month and taking 4 days not 2 to get there and deffo not driving in the dark.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 5:23 amSeems like you haven't been there by that statement...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 9:52 pmProbably because 90% of India are on foot and most don't even see roads and traffic.where Thais are 90% tooled up and love racing.fatbob wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 2:33 pmPersonally I cant see how Thailand has the number one spot, I think there are a lot of country's not in the poll, I have spent time working in India and Indonesia, those two country's are heaps worse just to name two, sorry but I don't believe Thailand has the real number 1 spot.
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Highway 7pal52 wrote: ↑December 19, 2017, 7:06 amThe motorway which goes from the Number 1 highway to Chonburi and which passes Suvannabhum Airport has numerous signs of 120 kph.stattointhailand wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 10:04 pmCan someone please direct me to the "motorway" in Thailand which they say has a speed limit of 120kph
Can't ever remember seeing a 120kph speed limit sign anywhere
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Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 19, 2017, 8:28 amOk all these statistics from WHO and other organisations I read about are just hearsay and you know better because you've driven on a road in India.i won't bother reading anymore statistics as they seem to be a crock of sh..t.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 6:37 pmI see your statement is not from personal experience only hearsay, the roads in India are so much worse hence there is no cred in Thai roads being No 1 for danger, just another crock of sh-t...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 9:13 amMy point was they are too poor to afford wheels,I know the driving and roads are horrendous in India but statistics show Thailand is number one.stick the Thais back on to ox and cart or bicycle and you would see Thailand lose its place at the top.like I've already said I blame the banks and finance companies for arming the Thais with a set of wheels.i think if it wasn't for poverty you would see china,India and Russia all in the top spots.you don't have to visit a country to know what the roads are like,you can read or watch videos.try watching liveleaks.com...or crazyshit.com Thailand hardly pops up.anyway I used to get peed off with Thai driving but I take it with a pinch of salt nowadays,I treat everyone as an idiot on the road and try to stay clear of them.i sold my big bike this year because of these roads and I'm driving to krabi at the end of the month and taking 4 days not 2 to get there and deffo not driving in the dark.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 5:23 amDead right, first hand experience for me every time, ######...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 9:52 pmProbably because 90% of India are on foot and most don't even see roads and traffic.where Thais are 90% tooled up and love racing.fatbob wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 2:33 pmPersonally I cant see how Thailand has the number one spot, I think there are a lot of country's not in the poll, I have spent time working in India and Indonesia, those two country's are heaps worse just to name two, sorry but I don't believe Thailand has the real number 1 spot.
Seems like you haven't been there by that statement...
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If any one trys to tell me Thailand has roads more dangerous than India or Indonesia as well as parts of Africa then they need experience, not just a newspaper....fatbob wrote: ↑December 20, 2017, 6:30 pmMarcosteffano wrote: ↑December 19, 2017, 8:28 amOk all these statistics from WHO and other organisations I read about are just hearsay and you know better because you've driven on a road in India.i won't bother reading anymore statistics as they seem to be a crock of sh..t.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 6:37 pmI see your statement is not from personal experience only hearsay, the roads in India are so much worse hence there is no cred in Thai roads being No 1 for danger, just another crock of sh-t...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 9:13 amMy point was they are too poor to afford wheels,I know the driving and roads are horrendous in India but statistics show Thailand is number one.stick the Thais back on to ox and cart or bicycle and you would see Thailand lose its place at the top.like I've already said I blame the banks and finance companies for arming the Thais with a set of wheels.i think if it wasn't for poverty you would see china,India and Russia all in the top spots.you don't have to visit a country to know what the roads are like,you can read or watch videos.try watching liveleaks.com...or crazyshit.com Thailand hardly pops up.anyway I used to get peed off with Thai driving but I take it with a pinch of salt nowadays,I treat everyone as an idiot on the road and try to stay clear of them.i sold my big bike this year because of these roads and I'm driving to krabi at the end of the month and taking 4 days not 2 to get there and deffo not driving in the dark.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 5:23 amDead right, first hand experience for me every time, ######...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 9:52 pmProbably because 90% of India are on foot and most don't even see roads and traffic.where Thais are 90% tooled up and love racing.fatbob wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 2:33 pmPersonally I cant see how Thailand has the number one spot, I think there are a lot of country's not in the poll, I have spent time working in India and Indonesia, those two country's are heaps worse just to name two, sorry but I don't believe Thailand has the real number 1 spot.
Seems like you haven't been there by that statement...
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Thanks Pal/Tam, that explains why I've never seen it, as I always go via Pak Thong Chai & Kabinburi when visiting that corner of Thailand
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fatbob wrote: ↑December 20, 2017, 6:41 pmIf any one trys to tell me Thailand has roads more dangerous than India or Indonesia as well as parts of Africa then they need experience, not just a newspaper....fatbob wrote: ↑December 20, 2017, 6:30 pmMarcosteffano wrote: ↑December 19, 2017, 8:28 amOk all these statistics from WHO and other organisations I read about are just hearsay and you know better because you've driven on a road in India.i won't bother reading anymore statistics as they seem to be a crock of sh..t.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 6:37 pmI see your statement is not from personal experience only hearsay, the roads in India are so much worse hence there is no cred in Thai roads being No 1 for danger, just another crock of sh-t...Marcosteffano wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 9:13 amMy point was they are too poor to afford wheels,I know the driving and roads are horrendous in India but statistics show Thailand is number one.stick the Thais back on to ox and cart or bicycle and you would see Thailand lose its place at the top.like I've already said I blame the banks and finance companies for arming the Thais with a set of wheels.i think if it wasn't for poverty you would see china,India and Russia all in the top spots.you don't have to visit a country to know what the roads are like,you can read or watch videos.try watching liveleaks.com...or crazyshit.com Thailand hardly pops up.anyway I used to get peed off with Thai driving but I take it with a pinch of salt nowadays,I treat everyone as an idiot on the road and try to stay clear of them.i sold my big bike this year because of these roads and I'm driving to krabi at the end of the month and taking 4 days not 2 to get there and deffo not driving in the dark.fatbob wrote: ↑December 18, 2017, 5:23 amI think you don't understand the meaning of the post, #1 on road deaths. More people dying on Thailand roads per capita. Maybe the roads in India or Africa are worse but they have less deaths per capita. This could be because of fewer drivers and a different mind set.In Thailand you have people who don't even bother to look where they are goingMarcosteffano wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 9:52 pmProbably because 90% of India are on foot and most don't even see roads and traffic.where Thais are 90% tooled up and love racing.fatbob wrote: ↑December 17, 2017, 2:33 pmPersonally I cant see how Thailand has the number one spot, I think there are a lot of country's not in the poll, I have spent time working in India and Indonesia, those two country's are heaps worse just to name two, sorry but I don't believe Thailand has the real number 1 spot.
either from arrogant self entitlement,i.e. Thai males or blind stupidity. I have not been to Africa or India but I have been to South American countries as well as most South East asian countries and have never seen the stupidity on the roads like Thailand has.
Dead right, first hand experience for me every time, ######...
Seems like you haven't been there by that statement...
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Maybe start an India is more dangerous for driving thread.
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Fat bob knows best,he's been there,done it and got the tshirt.as most of us know India,African countries are on the WHO list is road statistics but for some reason some think the books are cooked and they know better.