vlad wrote: ↑

February 2, 2019, 10:03 pm

And I told you I am British Sateeb if you bothered to look most post just use the open page I do not look for the correct page as to me it was a thread to all members of it bothers you Sateeb do not read it or post on it unless you have a reason to be object maybe. also do I have to be American to post about American subjects or is it a closed book only to Americans.

You post in General Udon Thani section. It was moved. Not everyone on here is either British or American so have no real interest. You shouldn't need admin moving things for you. Before you type a word, putting it in the wrong place doesn't give much weight to whatever debate you want to create. The topic is America Today suggesting you are there now but just to be clear. You are posting on a Thai forum about a country you aren't in based on a documentary on TV tonight?

Glad we cleared that up.

vlad wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 4:29 am

Idiotic country full of nut casea

Which country are you describing, Vlad? If you mean Canada, well, it's the weather, that makes us crazy.

I hate to be picky, but what do you mean by the word, 'casea'?

Nut casea, Latin and opposite of compos mentis meaning nutty as a fruitcake?

what do you mean by the word, 'casea'?

It's the red mist descending. Earlier he claimed, "This means wat!"

Laan Yaa Mo wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 7:31 pm

vlad wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 4:29 am

Idiotic country full of nut casea

Which country are you describing, Vlad? If you mean Canada, well, it's the weather, that makes us crazy.

I hate to be picky, but what do you mean by the word, 'casea'?

He meant cases, can you not figure that out, and he was talking about the US. Someone is suffering from severe brain freeze.

newtovillagelife wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 8:21 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 7:31 pm

vlad wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 4:29 am

Idiotic country full of nut casea

Which country are you describing, Vlad? If you mean Canada, well, it's the weather, that makes us crazy.

I hate to be picky, but what do you mean by the word, 'casea'?

He meant cases, can you not figure that out, and he was talking about the US. Someone is suffering from severe brain freeze.

How do you know? Can you see into Vlad's brain? This is an obvious case of delusions of grandeur. Sad to say but you can't measure up to Vlad's standards, NTVL.

Laan Yaa Mo wrote: ↑

February 5, 2019, 9:55 am

newtovillagelife wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 8:21 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 7:31 pm

vlad wrote: ↑

February 4, 2019, 4:29 am

Idiotic country full of nut casea

Which country are you describing, Vlad? If you mean Canada, well, it's the weather, that makes us crazy.

I hate to be picky, but what do you mean by the word, 'casea'?

He meant cases, can you not figure that out, and he was talking about the US. Someone is suffering from severe brain freeze.

How do you know? Can you see into Vlad's brain? This is an obvious case of delusions of grandeur. Sad to say but you can't measure up to Vlad's standards, NTVL.

Maybe read the thread first LYM, before making comments that show your ignorance..Eh!!

Oi! Oi! The Village, you sure you ain't a Millwall fan?

Astana wrote: ↑

February 5, 2019, 11:53 am

. . .

Hitler killed Jews in the millions -- citizens or not -- to eradicate them from the face of the earth. It also had nothing to do with immigration.

Trump wants illegal immigrants to use the ports of entry and follow the law. Trump also isn't ordering the slaughter of any race or culture.

You're entitled to your opinion, but it's an extremely inaccurate comparison.

NTVL, for someone who is rumoured to have a good sense of humour, your act has become tired and stale. Keep trying.

As for the topic and its OP, what can you say, what can you expect, it has all been said and done by him before, don't ya think?

If you don't like what your reading don't read, it move along I'm sure you will run off telling tales as usual.

Lone Star wrote: ↑

February 5, 2019, 12:12 pm

Trump wants illegal immigrants to use the ports of entry and follow the law. Trump also isn't ordering the slaughter of any race or culture.

You're entitled to your opinion, but it's an extremely inaccurate comparison.

This is one where I agree with LS. As Obama famously said on video, we're a nation of immigrants, but we're also a nation of laws. Both major parties have, at one time or another during the past couple of decades, had control of all three, -- House, Senate and White House. Yet neither party changed the immigration laws. They are what they are and should be enforced. If the Dems want the immigration laws to be more liberal, they will have to change them. Same if the Republicans want them to be more restrictive, they will have to change them.

Udon Map wrote: ↑

February 6, 2019, 10:12 am

They are what they are and should be enforced.

Completely agree.

If the Dems want the immigration laws to be more liberal, they will have to change them. Same if the Republicans want them to be more restrictive, they will have to change them.

How about just enforcing the current laws? We are a nation of laws, remember? If either party doesn't like the current laws, the answer is NOT to ignore the laws until the will to change them has been achieved. Nobody on this forum need to be reminded that being in a country illegally IS A CRIME.

The morons in America who want to give jobs, driver's licenses, protection, college tuition, voting rights etc to CRIMINALS should be held accountable. The enemy is within -- and they are liberal lunatics.

Other than the EU, border jumpers in many countries are severely punished. What good are the laws if they are ignored? There are many different estimates of how much illegals are costing taxpayers. The latest estimate I have found puts the cost at 158 billion dollars a year. That money would go a long ways to upgrade the crumbling infrastructure. People who attempt to deal with this problem are labeled racists and other stupid names. Those bleeding heart people have not considered how much this failed way of dealing with illegals hurts those who are trying to enter legally. The anchor baby rule should also be repealed. I'm quite sure that the founding fathers never meant it to work this way.

glalt wrote: ↑

February 6, 2019, 12:43 pm

Other than the EU, border jumpers in many countries are severely punished. What good are the laws if they are ignored? There are many different estimates of how much illegals are costing taxpayers. The latest estimate I have found puts the cost at 158 billion dollars a year. That money would go a long ways to upgrade the crumbling infrastructure. People who attempt to deal with this problem are labeled racists and other stupid names. Those bleeding heart people have not considered how much this failed way of dealing with illegals hurts those who are trying to enter legally. The anchor baby rule should also be repealed. I'm quite sure that the founding fathers never meant it to work this way.

Well said, glalt.

And the anchor baby idea arose out of the 14th Amendment -- granting citizenship to freed slaves. Its intention was never beyond that action, and there are numerous historical documents on file from debates in Congress that outline this very idea.

The birthright clause of the 14th Amd. needs to be replaced. Almost no other country does this nonsense.

https://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-mate ... sts-777643

... 40,000 children every year were born to women who are in the U.S. on a travel visa.

In 2001, Yaser Esam Hamdi was a 21-year-old Saudi Arabian citizen captured in Afghanistan fighting against American and Northern Alliance forces. Considered an illegal enemy combatant, he was transferred to the Guantanamo Detention Facility in Cuba, where officials discovered something quite surprising. Hamdi was American. Born in Baton Rouge, La., to Saudi parents on short work permits, he was granted American citizenship through the birthright clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. As an infant, Hamdi moved back to Saudi Arabia never to return to U.S. shores -- but he remained American, even as he fought U.S. troops in Afghanistan. The intended purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to grant U.S. citizenship to former slaves in America. In 1868, the author of the amendment, Michigan Senator John Howard, wrote that citizenship would be conferred to those born in, and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Howard clarified the intent of the clause claiming it would not include foreigners, aliens, or families of ambassadors. How did Yaser Hamdi, born to foreign parents temporarily in the U.S. in 1980, become a citizen? The interpretive twists and turns of the birthright clause, through legal cases and policy application, have distorted the original intent from current protocol. The birthright citizenship clause of the Fourteenth Amendment should be replaced.

Giggle wrote: ↑

February 6, 2019, 1:30 pm

and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Howard clarified the intent of the clause claiming it would not include foreigners, aliens, or families of ambassadors.

I've read this document before, and that statement reflects that the Amendment was never intended for anyone other than freed slaves.

Nailed it.

Hiring illegal immigrants is against the law. Part of the Immigration Nationality Act, the Immigration Reform and Control Act, or IRCA, makes it illegal to hire a worker who does not have citizenship or the authorization as a legal immigrant to work in the United States.

So how are these illegal immigrants supporting themselves. Is this not one of the roots of the problem. Why would a patriotic American commit this crime, and if they do why are they not arrested and put in jail. Problem solved.