Udon Thani Retirement Extension - what do they need?

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Re: Udon Thani Retirement Extension - what do they need?

Post by runrunshaw » February 2, 2019, 9:18 pm

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Dropped by Immigration around 4 PM last Monday and my extension was stamped and signed in my passport but it appears that the young lady entrusted with keeping it locked up in her desk for collection went off to Bangkok... with the key to her desk. All apologies and assurances it would be there on Tuesday which it was. The girl was also apologetic and red faced as she took a ribbing from some colleagues.
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Yikes! It's always something. Those kinds of stories are one of the reasons I'm getting a second passport.


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Post by the-monk » April 27, 2019, 5:31 pm

What are the latest Retirement Extension requirements ? Has anyone got the internet address ( link )[u][/u] to the Thai Immigration Department explaining these requirements in [size=150][/size]THAI language
Thanks in advance...

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Post by Wee Jimmy » April 27, 2019, 9:49 pm

This is the easiest extension to get....
800,000 in the bank for 3 month prior application or yearly a pension of equivalent.
If in doubt just pop into immigration and ask.
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Post by the-monk » April 27, 2019, 9:52 pm

Thanks a lot Wise man.

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Post by FrazeeDK » December 19, 2019, 3:59 pm

successfully renewed my O-A based retirement extension to stay (7th year) today 12/19/19.

What they used to process my permission to stay:

1. Copy of passport face page.
2. Copy of previous permission to stay out of passport
3. Copy of last Immigration arrival stamp out of passport
4. Copy of TM6 Arrival/Departure card (both sides)
5. Copy of Yellow Book.
6. TM 7 complete with photo.
7. Copy of required Health Insurance Certificate from approved provider on Long Stay TGIA website.
8. Original Certificate of Account Balance, stamped, signed and dated with today's date. (cost from K-Bank 100 Baht)
9. Original stamped detailed bank account transaction history from the last 90 days. (cost from K-Bank 100 Baht)
10. Map to House. I've printed a Google Map extract for the last 7 years and drawn in the route with a pen.
11. 3800 baht.

They did not require a copy of my original O-A visa which they've asked for in previous years. They returned the copy I gave them.
They did not ask for my "landlord" (my wife's) Tabian Ban (Blue Book).
They did NOT ask for a TM30
They did not ask for any other evidence of retirement income which was asked for by another expat who posted recently. I brought both a U.S. Social Security income letter as well as my Government pension payment slip just in case but not needed

Of course I had to show them my Passport, my Yellow Book and my Bank passbook.

What they used to process my multiple re-entry permit:

1. Copy of Passport face page.
2. Copy of previous permission to stay out of passport.
3. Copy of last Re-entry Permit out of poassport.
4. TM-8 application for re-entry permit with photo
5. 1900 Baht.

Time into Immigration 1300, Time out 1355. That also includes having to go over to K-Bank for 30 minutes just down the street to get the aforementioned Certificate of Account Balance, detailed account printout and passbook "updated." We'd gotten a certificate of account balance at Central K-Bank but they didn't provide the detailed printout nor the updated entry in the passbook.. I reckon all the banks near immigration know the drill 100%...

The health insurance boondoggle is another story.. the Long Stay TGIA site provides further links to "approved" providers. Expect a paperwork drill with asking for a quote after providing minimal info, getting a quote back along with an application for the policy to fill out. You'll also have to fill out their health exam paperwork and pay to get a pile of lab work, x-ray, and physician exam completed. (Bankgok Hospital charged close to 10K baht for the required tests). Then you scan everything; signed application, their completed health form signed and stamped by the hospital, and all lab slips. Expect to wait 5-7 days as the company's underwriters determine all your pre-existing conditions that you've claimed as well as any that might be indicated from your lab work.. Then they'll send you a lengthy policy rider that exempts ALL noted pre-existing conditions from coverage.. If you accept that, sign it, transfer the money to pay you'll get your policy certificate in a few days.... That's the form I provided to Immigration which the lady processing my packet looked bewildered about, asking me where I'd got it from... I told them through their mandatory website (the info page was hanging from her desk). Her supervisor looked at it and gave her the OK...
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Post by AlexO » December 19, 2019, 4:26 pm

the-monk wrote:
April 27, 2019, 9:52 pm
Thanks a lot Wise man.
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Post by the-monk » December 19, 2019, 4:42 pm

Thanks a lot. Great info. So it seems that all retirement extension renewals will require medical insurance. Did you have the choice where ( which hospital ) to pass the medical tests ? I just had most tests done at the military hospital a month ago and my renewal is in September. Thanks again.

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Post by Manxlad » December 19, 2019, 5:07 pm

the-monk wrote:
December 19, 2019, 4:42 pm
Thanks a lot. Great info. So it seems that all retirement extension renewals will require medical insurance. Did you have the choice where ( which hospital ) to pass the medical tests ? I just had most tests done at the military hospital a month ago and my renewal is in September. Thanks again.
Hi monk
Frazee info is excellent for his situation but he has applied for O-A extension.
So in reply to your comment..ALL retirement extension do not need medical insurance etc, only O -A
I’ve just done my annual renewal under Non Imm O and did not need any of the medical coverage only the required seasoned finances in my thai bank account
Hope this helps

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Post by FrazeeDK » December 19, 2019, 5:58 pm

Yes, my extension was based on my original O-A visa so required health insurance. Realistically I don't see how there will not be additional changes that include all other retirement categories at some point in the future. I honestly don't see the logic in applying the insurance requirement only to O-A visas. On the health exam the insurance company I used did not specify any particular hospital. They told me they'd reimburse me up to 10% of the cost.. I guess you could get the relevant tests done at any hospital or clinic so long as they filled the insurance company's form out with all the appropriate stamps and signatures along with the lab slips.. Now, mind you, this is what the insurance provider I ended up using asked for.. It could be different for other "approved" companies..
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Post by rickfarang » December 20, 2019, 4:55 am

Wow! 10%...well that actually good compared to what I had, and that is why I discontinued my insurance.

The situation here is hopeless.

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Post by gghh » December 20, 2019, 5:31 am


Manxlad wrote:
the-monk wrote:
December 19, 2019, 4:42 pm
Thanks a lot. Great info. So it seems that all retirement extension renewals will require medical insurance. Did you have the choice where ( which hospital ) to pass the medical tests ? I just had most tests done at the military hospital a month ago and my renewal is in September. Thanks again.
I’ve just done my annual renewal under Non Imm O and did not need any of the medical coverage only the required seasoned finances in my thai bank account
Hope this helps
Same for me on dec 04 in HuaHin.

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Post by the-monk » December 20, 2019, 9:45 am

Thanks everyone for your valuable input. Have a nice safe day.

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Post by Bread Man » December 20, 2019, 12:24 pm

Hello, this maybe a stupid question but I have a marriage visa renewable yearly like retirement.
Having lived here some 13 years do I need medical insurance at my nest renewal as it will be
virtually impossible for me to get. Thank you..

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Post by sometimewoodworker » December 20, 2019, 12:36 pm

Bread Man wrote:
December 20, 2019, 12:24 pm
Hello, this maybe a stupid question but I have a marriage visa renewable yearly like retirement.
Having lived here some 13 years do I need medical insurance at my nest renewal as it will be
virtually impossible for me to get. Thank you..
Few questions are stupid.

You don’t have a marriage Visa, the visa is long dead, but an extension of stay based on marriage, but the good news is that no you do not need insurance to extend your permission to stay.
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Post by Bread Man » December 21, 2019, 8:57 am

Understood, thank you.

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Post by pf-flyer » December 21, 2019, 10:54 am

I have posted this reply on another thread. I just wanted to share what My wife and I were told when we visited our local IO. Several weeks ago my wife and I went to our local Immigration at Udon Thani to ask about the required Health Insurance. I handed my passport to the immigration officer and she took a moment and looked through it. The supervisor that was sitting behind her asked her what kind of Visas I had and she told him “ O-A”. That was before she started to talk to us. She pointed to my current extension based on retirement and started explaining to my wife and I the procedure to apply for an extension based on marriage. She showed us an extension based on the marriage application that she just finished processing. She gave a handout as a reference for the list materials that we would need to apply for our next extension based on marriage. The supervisor that was sitting behind her listened in to our entire conversation and interacted with her from time to time the entire time she was talking to us.
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Post by FrazeeDK » December 21, 2019, 4:32 pm

PF Flyer, if you successfully change it to an extension based on marriage to a Thai national please let us know how it goes...
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Post by pf-flyer » December 22, 2019, 8:04 am

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PF Flyer, if you successfully change it to an extension based on marriage to a Thai national please let us know how it goes...
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I will.... I spent a lot of time fretting and worrying about this and I have decided to take it on one day at a time. My wife and I have decided to deal with whatever happens. My irony is that My wife and I currently have Health Insurance from Highmark Blue Cross Worldwide in the U.S. that does and has been reimbursing us for all of our medical expenses in Thailand. Highmark Insurance in the U.S. is not going to sign the Foreign Insurance form. I sent them an e-mail and they said so. I looked over the approved Health Insurance options. I have pre-existing conditions. I am not sure if I could get a policy. My Thai wife and I have been married for 46 years. We lived in the U.S. for 40 years. I love Thailand its culture and the Thai People. The people in the village where we live have made us feel as we are a part of the community. The thought of having to leave just makes us sad and sick.
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Post by Zidane » December 22, 2019, 2:39 pm

If you get a Non Immigrant O Visa based on marriage there is currently no need for health insurance.
It's only for the O-A visa this applies.
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Post by sometimewoodworker » December 22, 2019, 3:37 pm

Zidane wrote:
December 22, 2019, 2:39 pm
If you get a Non Immigrant O Visa based on marriage there is currently no need for health insurance.
It's only for the O-A visa this applies.
Any extension based on a Non-O has no insurance requirement.

An extension for retirement based on a Non-OA requires insurance.

An extension for other reasons based on a Non-OA in Udon will probably not need insurance.

So far there has been no report of anyone extending (in Udon) from a Non-OA for other reasons (wife, children, or other Thai family) so that is unclear at the moment.

Other immigration offices have said that all extensions based on a Non-OA must have insurance.

Best advice for anyone who is basing their extensions on a Non-OA, and not for retirement, is to go to renew 30 days before your current extension expires. Then if the situation has changed you have plenty of time to either get insurance if you want it or to arrange a visit another country so you can let your extension expire then get a Non-O
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