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Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 11, 2016, 7:43 pm

About a year ago a cell tower was erected less than 100 meters from my home, and ever since then my wife and I have been experiencing an assortment of health issues which are commonly identified in several sites on the internet if one lives within 300 meters of such towers. They are: “fatigue, sleep disturbances, headaches, difficulty concentrating, depression, memory loss, visual disruptions, irritability, hearing disruptions, skin problems, cardiovascular disorder and dizziness.

Of course all the governmental agencies and cell phone companies around the world have debunked these independent studies, and at least one of my friends who is very knowledgeable in such matters insists that I would get more exposure from putting a cell phone to my ear than I would be getting from a nearby cell tower. I can walk to my back porch facing the tower and my eardrums start vibrating. I just have to believe there is something going on that is not normal.

What I’d really like to be able to do is have some private individual or someone from a government agency or utility company come out with an appropriate meter and do a test. I realize that I cannot do anything now about the tower, but if I’m living in an unsafe environment I can always sell my house and move. I would appreciate any comments, experiences or suggestions on where to go for help.


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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by parrot » October 11, 2016, 8:28 pm

I'll bite.......I'm a fan of Better Call Saul, a netflix show in which one of the actors 'suffers' from electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS).
I'd guess that if the antenna near your home causes any sort of reaction, you'd get similar reactions throughout the city with the plethora of cell towers and mobile antennas mounted on building tops.
As for escaping cell towers.....I live 18km outside the city and until earlier this year lived in a cell phone dead zone (one bar if we were lucky). Recently AIS installed a tower about 500m away from our home. Now we have 4 bars in our house and consider ourselves fortunate. There aren't many places left in the world where you can escape cell phone towers and the impact they might have on you, if any.
Hope things work out for you.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by Jello » October 11, 2016, 9:18 pm

semperfiguy wrote: What I’d really like to be able to do is have some private individual or someone from a government agency or utility company come out with an appropriate meter and do a test. I realize that I cannot do anything now about the tower, but if I’m living in an unsafe environment I can always sell my house and move. I would appreciate any comments, experiences or suggestions on where to go for help.
EMF meters are available on Lazada -
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by grievous » October 11, 2016, 10:02 pm

Years ago I worked with a company who serviced phone towers. I can tell you that there were some buildings in Melbourne covered with telecommunication gear on the roof that if you spent any period of time working in that area would give you a headache. Theses particular places we were told by management to minimize exposure.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by Airportwo » October 11, 2016, 11:39 pm

I suspect that the article on wikileaks was written by a "phone company" specialist! "they" off course will be in denial until such time.............? typical of a lot on wiki, they wouldn't lie to us would they! =;
Exactly what these cell phone towers are transmitting besides what they admit too would be interesting to know? 8-[

To me it makes sense that these transmissions can effect some people, after all brain signals are all electric "signals" not difficult to be disrupted........ :shock:
Hope you are able to resolve things, in the meantime it may be worth looking into getting some natural crystals that can adsorb and "clean" google "emf and natural crystals" if you are interested.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 12, 2016, 6:41 am

Thanks for all the answers thus far. Parrot, I appreciate the Wikipedia article that you attached, but I have to agree with Airportwo that the article had to have been written by a paid lobbyist for the phone industry. It was so one sided and in total denial that it has to be a fraud. My next door neighbor has already complained to me about the same symptoms as me and my wife, and I'm sure that if I polled the other neighbors I wouldn't get the same response.

Jello, I had already seen that page on Lazada.co.th, but I have no idea which one of those devices is capable of giving a proper reading off a cell tower. I really need a professional to come out and do a reading for me, but have no idea who to contact. Any further comments would be much appreciated.
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by Khun Paul » October 12, 2016, 8:34 am

Pardon me for my obvious lack of knowledge, I thought that this was common knowledge, if my memory serves me correctly, years ago in the UK this was made public, cellphone towers caused all manner of problems to those susceptible including over use of cell phones themselves especially amongst the young. This was obviously debunked by the Phone companies themselves but as we all know throw enough mud some will stick.
Cell phone towers are Omni-directional aerials and even in my youth in HM Forces we had radios that could light up a fluorescent bulb if it was touching the aerial, when sending signals . years ago living near Electricity Pylons was also considered bad for some depending on your health issues. Unlike Microwave Aerials which are directional and cause little if any problems.,
So it is not surprising that those who have a tendency to be affected by minor disturbance in the normal electricity and radio waves generally emitted by the earth to be affected by concentrated emission by a radio /cellphone tower if sited too near.
The problem is proving it and also getting the powers that be to do something, the seemingly cavalier attitude of Telephone companies here to erecting towers to increase their coverage is startling , with in many cases complete disregard to not only the environment but also the very people for whom they are allegedly servicing. I wish you luck in your endeavours SF, luckily I have two near me both about 6-700 metres away both by different phone companies, why they need two when one would have been quite sufficient, shows lack of co-ordinated action by these companies.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by rick » October 12, 2016, 5:03 pm

Although i am skeptical about whether cellphone radiation is really dangerous, I could suggest 2 things. First, it might be that the towers are producing high/very low frequency sound waves as a side effect of their operation - so could try sound proofing/ear plugs. The other would be to use the principle of the Faraday cage - it can block or attenuate some electro-magnetic signals. it may not work for all cellphone frequencies. But such a solution would'n't be simple to implement and may still not work.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by Jello » October 12, 2016, 6:01 pm

The Ministry of Public Health
Department of Medical Sciences
The Division of Radiation and Medical Devices (DRMD) of the Department of Medical Sciences is responsible for monitoring radiological equipment used and radiation emitting products for consumer protection. The DRMD should be contacted for information on microwave ovens, mobile phones for personal communication, electrical appliances for cooking, computer monitor, living near power lines and base stations.
Contact name
Mrs. Nisakorn Manatrakul and Mr. Surasak Parisanyakul
Organization/address
Division of Radiation and Medical Devices
Department of Medical Sciences
Ministry of Public Health
Tiwanon Road
Nonthaburi 11000
Thailand
Tel +66 2 951 1027
Fax +66 2 951 1028
Email [email protected], [email protected]
Website http://www.dmsc.moph.go.th
Source: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/mapn ... d/en/#info
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 12, 2016, 6:48 pm

Jello wrote:
The Ministry of Public Health
Department of Medical Sciences
The Division of Radiation and Medical Devices (DRMD) of the Department of Medical Sciences is responsible for monitoring radiological equipment used and radiation emitting products for consumer protection. The DRMD should be contacted for information on microwave ovens, mobile phones for personal communication, electrical appliances for cooking, computer monitor, living near power lines and base stations.
Contact name
Mrs. Nisakorn Manatrakul and Mr. Surasak Parisanyakul
Organization/address
Division of Radiation and Medical Devices
Department of Medical Sciences
Ministry of Public Health
Tiwanon Road
Nonthaburi 11000
Thailand
Tel +66 2 951 1027
Fax +66 2 951 1028
Email [email protected], [email protected]
Website http://www.dmsc.moph.go.th
Source: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/mapn ... d/en/#info
Jello, thanks a million for this information. I have already sent an email to both of these directors above, and my wife will be following up with them by phone tomorrow. I will let everyone know how it turns out.
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by bumper » October 13, 2016, 11:16 am

Paul is right, this has come up before. It's almost like people have forgotten how to a face to face conversation. Just about anywhere you go that creates a waiting period everyone has their noses buried in the phone. So exposure simply has to be higher then it was when investigation report was released years ago.

I don't know about the towers but it seems logical that they would produce more then a single cell phone.
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 15, 2016, 6:09 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
Jello wrote:
The Ministry of Public Health
Department of Medical Sciences
The Division of Radiation and Medical Devices (DRMD) of the Department of Medical Sciences is responsible for monitoring radiological equipment used and radiation emitting products for consumer protection. The DRMD should be contacted for information on microwave ovens, mobile phones for personal communication, electrical appliances for cooking, computer monitor, living near power lines and base stations.
Contact name
Mrs. Nisakorn Manatrakul and Mr. Surasak Parisanyakul
Organization/address
Division of Radiation and Medical Devices
Department of Medical Sciences
Ministry of Public Health
Tiwanon Road
Nonthaburi 11000
Thailand
Tel +66 2 951 1027
Fax +66 2 951 1028
Email [email protected], [email protected]
Website http://www.dmsc.moph.go.th
Source: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/project/mapn ... d/en/#info
Jello, thanks a million for this information. I have already sent an email to both of these directors above, and my wife will be following up with them by phone tomorrow. I will let everyone know how it turns out.
Well, I've just about given up with trying to reach these two directors who are listed above. First off, the website for the ministry has an English version, but when I click on it there's no such link. I have emailed both directors twice, and both times the emails were returned "undeliverable". In light of the recent death of an individual, my wife is reluctant to try to reach these two people by phone, so I can't say when or if I will ever get to the bottom of this.
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by jimjay » October 16, 2016, 2:27 am

He might be picky but who are you to tell anyone where they should live regardless of their opinions of daily life here?

As to the radiation SFG, if your eardrums start vibrating, that's all the test I would need. There are probably some who can test it out, but they'd think twice if they knew there was a possibility their findings might be used by you in some future litigation.

The tower's equipment may not be set to normal settings, or it may be a repeater, e.g. line of sight, transmitting signal to other towers.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 16, 2016, 9:26 am

jimjay wrote:He might be picky but who are you to tell anyone where they should live regardless of their opinions of daily life here?

As to the radiation SFG, if your eardrums start vibrating, that's all the test I would need. There are probably some who can test it out, but they'd think twice if they knew there was a possibility their findings might be used by you in some future litigation.

The tower's equipment may not be set to normal settings, or it may be a repeater, e.g. line of sight, transmitting signal to other towers.
Jimjay, I appreciate your coming to my defense. You have a very valid point in that it may be hard to find someone who is willing to take readings for fear of some retaliation in the event I pursued legal action. Actually, I have no interest in doing that. I just want to find out if I am living in an unsafe environment, and if so, I will sell my home and move. At this point I will just order a meter online and see what the readings are inside my home. Someone has even suggested that I contact the electrical engineering department at Rajabhat University and see if anyone would like to make a project out of this.

One of my neighbors has gone online and researched the use of Orgonite to place around his home as well as inside in the room where he stays during his time at home. These pieces come in all shapes and sizes, and in his case he has purchased a pyramid made from resin that has all sorts of metal shavings and crystals inside. Supposedly, this orgonite will absorb the EMF's, bad energy, and turn it into good energy. He swears by it, but I'm not convinced by the research to the point that I would spend money to give it a try. It's a bit too "New Age" for me.
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by FrazeeDK » October 16, 2016, 10:10 am

Frankly, the level of electromagnetic radiation coming off a cellphone tower is quite low. The further you get from it, it grows exponentially lower. My personal opinion is that it is not in general a health hazard. Could some people be hypersensitive to various forms of electromagnetic radiation?? I'd say yes. If you feel that you might be one of those people then definitely take whatever proactive measures you deem proper for your own health. For most of my adult life I've been around all sorts of different EMF in the HF, VHF, UHF, EHF and X Bands.. Did it affect me?? Not that I can see but who can say what might physical symptoms might come out as I grow older that could possibly be attributed to it.. For me, if anything got started over my nearly 40 years doing RF communications work, its too late to do anything about it now..

Now I'll qualify my statements above.. Ya never know.. 20 years from now it might come out that all this RF energy bouncing around with cell phones and all sorts of WI-FI devices have caused all sorts of physical and mental problems.. Perhaps that's why a lot of younger folks are such sensitive snowflakes these days..
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by 12345 » October 16, 2016, 10:38 am

semperfiguy wrote: I just want to find out if I am living in an unsafe environment, and if so, I will sell my home and move. At this point I will just order a meter online and see what the readings are inside my home.
Apparently, whether real or in your head (pun intended), you seem to be sensitive to something. Not sure how the meter will help, unless proving or disproving either.

If the meter does show high levels of whatever, it's a start, and maybe moving is the only option, whether simply away from towers or out of Thailand for your overall happiness..........well......UP2U as they say.

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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by maaka » October 16, 2016, 1:28 pm

does your ears vibrate Semi when around other cell tower?
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by Airportwo » October 16, 2016, 2:29 pm

I bet there were even more skeptics when people first started questioning if smoking was really so not healthy! ;)
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by semperfiguy » October 16, 2016, 5:18 pm

The 12,000 BTU air-conditioner inside unit was installed in my master bedroom directly over my bed's headboard, and the outside unit is directly behind my headboard. Last night we slept with the A/C turned off since it was fairly cool inside the house. This morning I felt rested and didn't wake up with the usual aches and pains. I just discovered this comment online:

3. Don't locate sleeping beds and working stations on the other side of the wall where an Electromagnetic Radiation source (electric motors, refrigerators, air condition compressors, microwave wave ovens ...) is located.

Now I'm wondering if this is not the culprit that is causing all my ailments. Anybody else have this experience?
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Re: Radiation from Cell Towers

Post by 12345 » October 16, 2016, 5:52 pm

Easy fix for a tester, move the bed to the opposite side for a week, and see / feel the results.

Although you said tower up for about a year, so would easily been cool season last year............did you notice anything ???

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