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Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by Fatone » October 14, 2017, 6:15 pm

On aged pension from australia. In Oz if you marry you lose half your pension, if your wife is too young or not a resident. My question is if I marry my girl in Thailand and register the marriage will the Oz govt find out? Any clues? My initial idea was just have Buddhist ceremony but dont tell Thai Govt



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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by wazza » October 14, 2017, 6:33 pm

If you register your Thai marriage with the local Tessa Baan, you need to obtain a letter / stat Dec from Australian Embassy in BKK, saying you are free to marry , also if you were married and then divorced , you need to have those included in the letter , and it all needs to be translated etc, then you finally present and get a letter from Thai Ministry , to approve you to marry in Thailand. Embassy still wont know if you actually proceed with a registered marriage, they are only a part of the admin process to allow you to.

Your marriage doesnt need to be registered with Oz Embassy in BKK, if registered locally it is automatically recognised by the Oz Govt. Not sure if Wife to be is allowed to have a widows pension , ???

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Post by Fatone » October 14, 2017, 7:23 pm

Sounds like I would run a very high risk f losing half my pension

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Post by wazza » October 14, 2017, 7:25 pm

have you got a link that confirms this, as I have never heard of this before, ( BUT I dont and cant get a pension and not married )

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Post by macca46 » October 14, 2017, 7:31 pm

You can ring C/L on their toll free number tell them you are asking a hypothetical question not hard, then you will know for sure.

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Post by Fatone » October 14, 2017, 7:57 pm

thanks macca I might try that one day when I have 5 or 6 hours to listen to on hold muzak

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Post by wazza » October 14, 2017, 8:12 pm

I might start applying for a pension soon. Got 7 years to sort it.

Sounds like i need it ...

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Post by macca46 » October 14, 2017, 8:12 pm

You will be very surprised how quick you will get through as it is toll free they are paying I have so I know give it try nothing to loose.

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Post by Fatone » October 14, 2017, 8:13 pm

I will try but note I am still in oz

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Post by macca46 » October 14, 2017, 8:17 pm

Ok that is bit different when you ring from Thailand close to instantaneous.

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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by dudscar46 » October 14, 2017, 8:19 pm

The chances are Centerlink won’t know, but if somewhere down the track they do find out, you would have a heck of an amount of money to pay back.


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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by tamada » October 14, 2017, 8:37 pm

Fatone wrote:
October 14, 2017, 6:15 pm
On aged pension from australia. In Oz if you marry you lose half your pension, if your wife is too young or not a resident. My question is if I marry my girl in Thailand and register the marriage will the Oz govt find out? Any clues? My initial idea was just have Buddhist ceremony but dont tell Thai Govt
Probably the Buddhist ceremony is all the girl really needs anyway. If she insists on the whole folderol, then maybe she's been reading up a bit and already has an eye on the pension.

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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by Rocketmanbkk » October 14, 2017, 8:39 pm

Fatone, why does the oz pension go down when you marry? Or does it just go down if you marry & live out of oz?

If you married & last bed in oz with your thai bird would the pension rise? i.e you get a married allowance?


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Post by Fatone » October 14, 2017, 8:48 pm

only goes down if your wife under pension age in Oz or overseas, if wife pension age you both get pension but each get less than single pension

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Post by macca46 » October 14, 2017, 8:56 pm

I you are on Australian pension now and come to live in Thailand you only receive one payment a month and it is also the bare minimum you will not get the add on's I think about $160.00 a month less.

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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by Rocketmanbkk » October 14, 2017, 9:42 pm

Interesting post

I’m English & pension at 65 or when I retire 67 is either single person or married. Plus the fact you need to pay enough years of NI to get full pension. Very interesting. Thx


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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by Fatone » October 15, 2017, 7:34 am

I have lived and worked in Oz all my life so am due pension as long as I pass assett and income tests. But lose a lot if I marry and they find out

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Re: Can Australia centrelink find out if you marry in thailand

Post by wazza » October 15, 2017, 11:46 am

Fatone wrote:
October 15, 2017, 7:34 am
I have lived and worked in Oz all my life so am due pension as long as I pass assett and income tests. But lose a lot if I marry and they find out
Fatone

Sort of a no brainer then really, Perhaps a well planned local ceremony which your bride to be would like is the way forward.

However look into what pension is paid, if you reside overseas, I heard its reduced but could be very wrong also

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