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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by glalt » June 20, 2019, 5:25 pm

My wife's nephew goes to a Christian school. Same uniform every day. He is also a boy scout and that also has a uniform. If he had different uniforms daily, I'm sure he would be changing schools and the same with the scouts.



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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by semperfiguy » June 20, 2019, 5:47 pm

newtovillagelife wrote:
June 19, 2019, 5:33 pm
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Teach them early that appearance is much more important than intellectual development.
Evidently the appearance thing doesn't register with Thais. They are some of the sloppiest dressers I have ever seen. Never seen an older one with an ironed shirt or pants and never seen a shoe that has been polished. Also have never seen one that had the length of his trousers tailored. Just like everything else in Thailand, aestetic appearance is not in the vocabulary. As long as something is functional that's all that matters....to heck with what it looks like!
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by johanthomsen » June 20, 2019, 6:55 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
June 20, 2019, 5:47 pm
newtovillagelife wrote:
June 19, 2019, 5:33 pm
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Teach them early that appearance is much more important than intellectual development.
Evidently the appearance thing doesn't register with Thais. They are some of the sloppiest dressers I have ever seen. Never seen an older one with an ironed shirt or pants and never seen a shoe that has been polished. Also have never seen one that had the length of his trousers tailored. Just like everything else in Thailand, aestetic appearance is not in the vocabulary. As long as something is functional that's all that matters....to heck with what it looks like!
That is not the impression I have of Thai´s... I have seen many of them put themselves into bottomless debt because of their desire to have some artificial apperance...
I think they have a much bigger problem of economy which is almost as bad as most of their driving manners :-#

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by RLTrader » June 20, 2019, 7:10 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
June 20, 2019, 5:47 pm
newtovillagelife wrote:
June 19, 2019, 5:33 pm
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Teach them early that appearance is much more important than intellectual development.
Evidently the appearance thing doesn't register with Thais. They are some of the sloppiest dressers I have ever seen. Never seen an older one with an ironed shirt or pants and never seen a shoe that has been polished. Also have never seen one that had the length of his trousers tailored. Just like everything else in Thailand, aestetic appearance is not in the vocabulary. As long as something is functional that's all that matters....to heck with what it looks like!
You really need to get out more often, semperfiguy. :D

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by lahgon29 » June 20, 2019, 8:09 pm

Got my daughter an Oz passport at 1yo.she will always be able to go there after uni/school and earn good money if she's a grafter.

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Raoul Duke » June 20, 2019, 8:14 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
June 20, 2019, 5:47 pm
Evidently the appearance thing doesn't register with Thais. They are some of the sloppiest dressers I have ever seen. Never seen an older one with an ironed shirt or pants and never seen a shoe that has been polished. Also have never seen one that had the length of his trousers tailored. Just like everything else in Thailand, aestetic appearance is not in the vocabulary. As long as something is functional that's all that matters....to heck with what it looks like!
I think the Thai people dress rather sharply.
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by stattointhailand » June 20, 2019, 8:17 pm

lahgon29 wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:09 pm
Got my daughter an Oz passport at 1yo.she will always be able to go there after uni/school and earn good money if she's a grafter.
Until they change the rules :-$

My daughter has British passport for mostly the same reasons, but all it takes is for some loony to get into power (like Farage/Boris/Trump/Hitler) and everything can change =;

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by jackspratt » June 20, 2019, 8:32 pm

Not all of the locals feel the need to dress like a US Marine - thank god. But you see more than enough proliferation of the local crisp formal white dress uniforms to put a lie to sfg's usual anti-Thai rant.

As for the rest, they seem to dress appropriately for the occasion - thank Buddha. =D>

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 20, 2019, 8:52 pm

The Toronto District School Board has introduced a new dress code for students. Basically, there is none. Girls will be permitted to have bare midriffs, display cleavage, wear halter tops and boys can wear wife beaters, gang colours (so as not to upset black students), baseball caps and any other sort of head covering in class. Bans on clothing promoting alcohol and drug use, racist images and slogans, and 'sexist, homophobic, and anti-Islamic messages, remain prohibited since this comes under the safe school policy rules.
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by the-monk » June 20, 2019, 10:08 pm

From the TDSB web site.., Mr LYM your bias is showing....

<<TDSB SITE ….Student Dress Policy P042 Page 5 of 11

<< Not promote offensive, lewd, vulgar, or obscene images or language,
including profanity, hate and pornography;

 Not promote, nor, could not be construed as or include content that is
discriminatory (e.g., racist, anti-Black, anti-Indigenous, anti-Semitic,
Islamophobic, sexist, transphobic, homophobic, classist, ableist, sizist,
etc.), or that reasonably could be construed as defamatory,
threatening, harassing or promoting bias, prejudice or hate;

 Not symbolize, suggest, display or reference: tobacco, cannabis,
alcohol, drugs or related paraphernalia, promotion or incitement of
violence or any illegal conduct or criminal activities;

 Not interfere with the safe operation of the school, limit or restrict the
rights of others, or create a reasonably foreseeable risk of such
interference or invasion of rights; (e.g., except for creed
accommodations and safety requirements, no head wear may obscure
the face, all other head wear may be worn);

 Conform with any established standard school uniform.

>> >>

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 20, 2019, 11:13 pm

In what way, pray tell?
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Giggle » June 21, 2019, 10:43 am

stattointhailand wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:17 pm
lahgon29 wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:09 pm
Got my daughter an Oz passport at 1yo.she will always be able to go there after uni/school and earn good money if she's a grafter.
Until they change the rules :-$

My daughter has British passport for mostly the same reasons, but all it takes is for some loony to get into power (like Farage/Boris/Trump/Hitler) and everything can change =;
Farage/Boris/Trump and Hitler tell the grafters to get up off their lazy asses and get jobs? They have my vote.

School uniforms for students (and especially for teachers) are ridiculous unless for sports teams to tell the squads apart.

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by dragonz » June 21, 2019, 2:03 pm

A lot of points missed here really . It is not just about buying the uniform its my boys wardrobe is 80% full of school clothes . Some of which were purchased and worn for 1 event on 1 special day like the expensive chinese uniform he bought for chinese new year last year nearly 600 bahts.Hope he can wear it this year He is constantly texting his friends at night all asking each other what they have to wear the next day , sometime putting a couple of uniforms in his school bag just in case .
As pointed out sometimes comes home at night to tell me has to wear the same clothes the next day which i then have to wash dry and iron by the morning

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by stattointhailand » June 22, 2019, 8:25 pm

Its OK if you have loads of kids as one years uniform can be passed down to the next in line (no chance of them ever getting worn out as they only get worn once a week )..... and that's only when they re not on holiday or on Buddha day or a teacher training day or mothers day or fathers day etc etc. Bad luck if you have a boy & a girl .... double whammy.
I now leave 20 mins earlier than I need to, so as there's enough time to return home and change (3 times already this year)

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Armyvet » June 27, 2019, 11:46 am

I believe the idea of uniforms was to level the social playing field making each one look the same with out fashion, fads or what could set students apart by dress or family status. I totally agree with that concept if adhered to and not make uniform requirements a burden on families with less money. I recall my high school days when Levi brand set the standard and if you wore Lee's or Foremost (JC Penny store brand) or other you weren't ****. Utter nonsense but that was the way it was and frankly I didn't give a damn then so to a degree I was outside the in crowd.

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by BillaRickaDickay » June 27, 2019, 12:38 pm

There's a simple answer to this uniform problem in Thailand, Don't have kids. Think of the positive spin offs from this radical decision, less personal stress, financially better off, no vultures hanging around for their inheritance, a positive contribution to Earth,s survival.
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by GT93 » June 27, 2019, 12:58 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
June 22, 2019, 8:25 pm
... I now leave 20 mins earlier than I need to, so as there's enough time to return home and change (3 times already this year)
I suspect your young passengers in the wrong uniforms might be enjoying an advanced swearing class when you're making this extra run. I hope it isn't so colourful that even 747man would blush.

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by Lone Star » June 27, 2019, 1:37 pm

Armyvet wrote:
June 27, 2019, 11:46 am
I believe the idea of uniforms was to level the social playing field making each one look the same with out fashion, fads or what could set students apart by dress or family status. I totally agree with that concept if adhered to and not make uniform requirements a burden on families with less money. I recall my high school days when Levi brand set the standard and if you wore Lee's or Foremost (JC Penny store brand) or other you weren't ****. Utter nonsense but that was the way it was and frankly I didn't give a damn then so to a degree I was outside the in crowd.
Pretty much how I see it.

After having taught in inner city schools and rural schools -- all with enrollments over 2,000 students and high percentages of minorities -- we had uniforms for the reasons that you stated. In addition, it helps to identify lazy invaders who show up on campus in street clothes.
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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by stattointhailand » June 27, 2019, 1:54 pm

GT93 wrote:
June 27, 2019, 12:58 pm
stattointhailand wrote:
June 22, 2019, 8:25 pm
... I now leave 20 mins earlier than I need to, so as there's enough time to return home and change (3 times already this year)
I suspect your young passengers in the wrong uniforms might be enjoying an advanced swearing class when you're making this extra run. I hope it isn't so colourful that even 747man would blush.
Only after the phrase *oh yeah, I think they said sumfink about that yesterday" gets uttered :-$

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Re: schools obsessed with uniforms

Post by newtovillagelife » June 27, 2019, 3:03 pm

Lone Star wrote:
June 27, 2019, 1:37 pm
Armyvet wrote:
June 27, 2019, 11:46 am
I believe the idea of uniforms was to level the social playing field making each one look the same with out fashion, fads or what could set students apart by dress or family status. I totally agree with that concept if adhered to and not make uniform requirements a burden on families with less money. I recall my high school days when Levi brand set the standard and if you wore Lee's or Foremost (JC Penny store brand) or other you weren't ****. Utter nonsense but that was the way it was and frankly I didn't give a damn then so to a degree I was outside the in crowd.
Pretty much how I see it.

After having taught in inner city schools and rural schools -- all with enrollments over 2,000 students and high percentages of minorities -- we had uniforms for the reasons that you stated. In addition, it helps to identify lazy invaders who show up on campus in street clothes.
'High percentages of minorities'.....'lazy invaders'....you give yourself away with your prose......that explains your love of Trump...say no more.

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