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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Doodoo » December 3, 2019, 8:40 am

"75 brands to stop providing plastic bags from January 1"

Time for change!!!

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/113679 ... paign=news



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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Doodoo » December 3, 2019, 8:42 am

Tesco Lotus to stop giving out plastic straws

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/113677 ... paign=news

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by glalt » December 3, 2019, 9:41 am

Basically there is nothing wrong with plastic bags. The problem lies with people. We must educate people how to dispose of their trash. Every day I see people drop their trash wherever they happen to be. In our small village, every house has a refuse container. How difficult would it be to drop the trash into one of those containers. Boats and ships cause the most damage to marine creatures. All the trash is thrown over the side. Law enforcement could quickly help with this problem by prosecuting violators. Laws are in place but people pay no attention to them.

It's kind of like guns. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by jackspratt » December 3, 2019, 9:59 am

glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 9:41 am

It's kind of like guns. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
No, plastic bags aren't anything like guns.

Plastic bags were designed to carry, wrap and store things.

Guns were designed solely to kill living things - including people.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Doodoo » December 3, 2019, 10:31 am

Pls lets not get into the Gun thing again Not here anyway
We are talking the reduction of using plastic bags
Which I am all for
The earth has only so much materials to offer the human race for consumption and I can well imagine over the last few decades we are consuming at an alarming pace.
"Two-thirds of world's resources 'used up'
The human race is living beyond its means. A report backed by 1,360 scientists from 95 countries - some of them world leaders in their fields - today warns that the almost two-thirds of the natural machinery that supports life on Earth is being degraded by human pressure."
An interesting article https://www.theguardian.com/science/200 ... t.research

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by saint » December 3, 2019, 10:41 am

glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 9:41 am
Basically there is nothing wrong with plastic bags. The problem lies with people. We must educate people how to dispose of their trash. Every day I see people drop their trash wherever they happen to be. In our small village, every house has a refuse container. How difficult would it be to drop the trash into one of those containers. Boats and ships cause the most damage to marine creatures. All the trash is thrown over the side. Law enforcement could quickly help with this problem by prosecuting violators. Laws are in place but people pay no attention to them.

It's kind of like guns. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
When i was on the high seas , many moons ago , the only stuff that got dumped over the side was bio degradable , namely waste foods .
I admit you might lose the odd polypropalene rope , and fishermen do lose the odd net , but to say tthat boats and ships cause the most damage to marine life , is just plain wrong .
There are several countries in this part of the world , as well as other poorer parts that just dispose rubbish into their rivers , which discharge into the ocean .
The currents pick up mostly plastics , because it floats , and take it into deep ocean , where it slowly breaks down into microscopic pieces , and then kills marine life.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by glalt » December 3, 2019, 11:06 am

I don't know if it is still happening, BUT, some time back I could see barges loaded with garbage heading out to open waters from Pattaya. It's not an educated guess that the purpose was to dump that trash.

No doubt that there are ships that take care of their trash responsibly, but obviously not all of them. The bottom line is that people poison the seas.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by newtovillagelife » December 3, 2019, 12:07 pm

Doodoo wrote:
December 3, 2019, 8:42 am
Tesco Lotus to stop giving out plastic straws

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/113677 ... paign=news
About time they ban plastic bags at the local markets also.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Bonanza » December 3, 2019, 1:11 pm

One of the fastest growing chain of shops in the UK is the fashion chain 'Primark'. Since it's introduction to the UK it has used brown paper bags in various sizes - which I understand are bio-degradable. :D

I have no idea about the 'green/eco-friendly' aspects of paper bags: but at least they aren't plastic. :D

So, what about paper bags?

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by tamada » December 3, 2019, 1:18 pm

glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 11:06 am
I don't know if it is still happening, BUT, some time back I could see barges loaded with garbage heading out to open waters from Pattaya. It's not an educated guess that the purpose was to dump that trash.

No doubt that there are ships that take care of their trash responsibly, but obviously not all of them. The bottom line is that people poison the seas.
Pattaya's major landfill is on Koh Larn.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/108706 ... or-mulled/

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by tamada » December 3, 2019, 1:21 pm

Point of note, Big C's Phosri's 10-item/cash-only check-out lines no longer dispense single use bags.

Since baggage trolleys can't be used on these checkouts, better start using them ugly cargo pants properly guys!

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by stattointhailand » December 3, 2019, 1:48 pm

tamada wrote:
December 3, 2019, 1:18 pm
glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 11:06 am
I don't know if it is still happening, BUT, some time back I could see barges loaded with garbage heading out to open waters from Pattaya. It's not an educated guess that the purpose was to dump that trash.

No doubt that there are ships that take care of their trash responsibly, but obviously not all of them. The bottom line is that people poison the seas.
Pattaya's major landfill is on Koh Larn.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/108706 ... or-mulled/
And there was me thinking the local rubbish tip was the area from the "beach" to Sukhumvit Road :confused:

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by glalt » December 3, 2019, 6:04 pm

tamada wrote:
December 3, 2019, 1:18 pm
glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 11:06 am
I don't know if it is still happening, BUT, some time back I could see barges loaded with garbage heading out to open waters from Pattaya. It's not an educated guess that the purpose was to dump that trash.

No doubt that there are ships that take care of their trash responsibly, but obviously not all of them. The bottom line is that people poison the seas.
Pattaya's major landfill is on Koh Larn.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/108706 ... or-mulled/
I thought it was the island shipping garbage to Pattaya.

From your link;

PATTAYA:--With new regulations blocking Pattaya from hauling Koh Larn’s garbage to the mainland, city hall is expanding the island’s landfill and is considering building an incinerator.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Doodoo » December 3, 2019, 7:31 pm

Building an incinerator is not the be all end all solution With an incinerator brings additional concerns.

* The highly toxic fly ash must be safely disposed of. This usually involves additional waste miles and the need for specialist toxic waste landfill elsewhere. If not done properly, it may cause concerns for local residents
* Incinerators emit varying levels of heavy metals such as vanadium, manganese, chromium, nickel, arsenic, mercury, lead and cadmium, which can be toxic at very minute levels.
The list goes on BUT the safest, cheapest, most politically correct solution is Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by stattointhailand » December 3, 2019, 9:23 pm

" the safest, cheapest, most politically correct solution is Reduce, Reuse, Recycle"

You kiddin' or what ???? There's no profit in that [-X

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by neeemu » December 3, 2019, 10:53 pm

Bonanza wrote:
December 3, 2019, 1:11 pm
One of the fastest growing chain of shops in the UK is the fashion chain 'Primark'. Since it's introduction to the UK it has used brown paper bags in various sizes - which I understand are bio-degradable. :D

I have no idea about the 'green/eco-friendly' aspects of paper bags: but at least they aren't plastic. :D

So, what about paper bags?
Can't wait to see the wife's face when her local som tam vendor ties an elastic band around her paper bag full of papaya salad with fish sauce dripping out.

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Stantheman » December 4, 2019, 1:17 am

Bonanza wrote:
December 3, 2019, 1:11 pm
One of the fastest growing chain of shops in the UK is the fashion chain 'Primark'. Since it's introduction to the UK it has used brown paper bags in various sizes - which I understand are bio-degradable. :D

I have no idea about the 'green/eco-friendly' aspects of paper bags: but at least they aren't plastic. :D

So, what about paper bags?
Nope, paper bags come from trees and the enviro people will be screaming about killing all those trees just for paper bags, coming next disposable cotton bags. (Tongue in cheek response)

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by stattointhailand » December 4, 2019, 7:04 am

Sorry Stan no cotton ....... sent all the slaves home and Alabama is still in "lockdown" waiting for Hurricane Dorian :-$

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by tamada » December 4, 2019, 9:53 am

glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 6:04 pm
tamada wrote:
December 3, 2019, 1:18 pm
glalt wrote:
December 3, 2019, 11:06 am
I don't know if it is still happening, BUT, some time back I could see barges loaded with garbage heading out to open waters from Pattaya. It's not an educated guess that the purpose was to dump that trash.

No doubt that there are ships that take care of their trash responsibly, but obviously not all of them. The bottom line is that people poison the seas.
Pattaya's major landfill is on Koh Larn.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/108706 ... or-mulled/
I thought it was the island shipping garbage to Pattaya.

From your link;

PATTAYA:--With new regulations blocking Pattaya from hauling Koh Larn’s garbage to the mainland, city hall is expanding the island’s landfill and is considering building an incinerator.
The Nimby's in Khao Mai Kaeo have stalled efforts to have an incinerator installed at a 'disused' mainland landfill about 12 km inland from Pattaya, hence the plan to increase the Koh larn landfill and build the incinerator out there.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... under-fire

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Re: Plastic Bags

Post by Doodoo » December 5, 2019, 9:10 am

"People support No Plastic campaign"

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/113718 ... paign=news

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