Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

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Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by semperfiguy » August 15, 2020, 8:01 am

This was on of the biggest stories of the decade, but after they were given a Royal Pardon on July 28th, there has been little mention of it. Just thought I would update the forum members.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... d#cxrecs_s


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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by Bandung_Dero » August 15, 2020, 8:11 am

IMHO they always appeared to be 'scapegoats' - if for nothing else the lazy, inept, corrupt and comical police investigations.
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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by Drunk Monkey » August 15, 2020, 8:24 am

Some justice at last .. tho lets not forget the real perp(s) are free and probably still on Koh Tao and could happen again.
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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by FrazeeDK » August 15, 2020, 9:07 am

sentences commuted to life in prison.. Chances are they weren't going to get put to death. The question is, did they apply for the Royal Pardon? If they did and it had been denied then by the rules they would have been put to death in a very short time frame.. This happened on 18 June 2018 when a 28 year old man, Theerasak Longji convicted of robbery with a death was executed after his application for a Royal Pardon was denied.
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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by chopperjoey » August 17, 2020, 12:56 pm

Bandung_Dero wrote:
August 15, 2020, 8:11 am
IMHO they always appeared to be 'scapegoats' - if for nothing else the lazy, inept, corrupt and comical police investigations.

An opinion carries little weight in such an important case. And i will not go into the usual cynical remarks calling police "corrupt and comical."

Dozens if not hunderds forum farang have voiced similar feelings. "poor immigrant workers used as scapegoats by the Thais." Rants and mere opinions of disgruntled farang. Where are the facts?

Facts are, there is dna evidence linking both persons to the crime. facts are, both families of the murdered victims, have seen all the evidence (in contrast to all the forum farang) and believe these convicted youngmen are the murderers. Facts are investigators from the uk have assisted the Thai police.

Yes, most likely these and other immigrant workers have been given a very rough treatment during the police investigation. I cant agree with that, but that doesnt make the two persons innocent.

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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by dragonz » August 18, 2020, 8:38 am

chopperjoey wrote:
August 17, 2020, 12:56 pm
Bandung_Dero wrote:
August 15, 2020, 8:11 am
IMHO they always appeared to be 'scapegoats' - if for nothing else the lazy, inept, corrupt and comical police investigations.

An opinion carries little weight in such an important case. And i will not go into the usual cynical remarks calling police "corrupt and comical."

Dozens if not hunderds forum farang have voiced similar feelings. "poor immigrant workers used as scapegoats by the Thais." Rants and mere opinions of disgruntled farang. Where are the facts?

Facts are, there is dna evidence linking both persons to the crime. facts are, both families of the murdered victims, have seen all the evidence (in contrast to all the forum farang) and believe these convicted youngmen are the murderers. Facts are investigators from the uk have assisted the Thai police.

Yes, most likely these and other immigrant workers have been given a very rough treatment during the police investigation. I cant agree with that, but that doesnt make the two persons innocent.
The DNA of the two accused, and now convicted, was never found on the presumed murder weapon.

The guilty verdict that resulted in the two men being sentenced to death relied heavily on the DNA evidence put forward by prosecutors who claimed a 100% match to the defendants. The DNA was said to be taken from inside the female victim. It is scientifically impossible that a mixed sample consisting of DNA from Hannah Witheridge, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo could be a 100% match to any one person.
Read this then give your opinion

http://ghre.org/2019/09/05/outcry-over- ... o-murders/

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Re: Death sentences in Koh Tao killings commuted

Post by AlexO » August 20, 2020, 7:38 am

dragonz wrote:
August 18, 2020, 8:38 am
chopperjoey wrote:
August 17, 2020, 12:56 pm
Bandung_Dero wrote:
August 15, 2020, 8:11 am
IMHO they always appeared to be 'scapegoats' - if for nothing else the lazy, inept, corrupt and comical police investigations.

An opinion carries little weight in such an important case. And i will not go into the usual cynical remarks calling police "corrupt and comical."

Dozens if not hunderds forum farang have voiced similar feelings. "poor immigrant workers used as scapegoats by the Thais." Rants and mere opinions of disgruntled farang. Where are the facts?

Facts are, there is dna evidence linking both persons to the crime. facts are, both families of the murdered victims, have seen all the evidence (in contrast to all the forum farang) and believe these convicted youngmen are the murderers. Facts are investigators from the uk have assisted the Thai police.

Yes, most likely these and other immigrant workers have been given a very rough treatment during the police investigation. I cant agree with that, but that doesnt make the two persons innocent.
The DNA of the two accused, and now convicted, was never found on the presumed murder weapon.

The guilty verdict that resulted in the two men being sentenced to death relied heavily on the DNA evidence put forward by prosecutors who claimed a 100% match to the defendants. The DNA was said to be taken from inside the female victim. It is scientifically impossible that a mixed sample consisting of DNA from Hannah Witheridge, Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo could be a 100% match to any one person.
Read this then give your opinion

http://ghre.org/2019/09/05/outcry-over- ... o-murders/
And I suppose 'chopperjoey' also believes the new witnesses that 'Boss' was only driving at 77kph and the cocaine in his system was from recent dental treatment. Oh well I suppose there is one born every minute. Must be a wall in a village somewhere missing its normal occupant. The Kho Tao investigation stunk from the word go and dragonz's copied article just shows how inept (deliberate or otherwise) the investigation and eventual outcome was.

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