Power cuts coming to Udon ?

[glalt]

Get a Kwai Thong.



Mine is 2000 W and you start it by turning a key. Fill it with gasoline in the top and you have lektrik for 10 hours or so. Keep the gas can out in the shed with the lawn stuff. Keep the generator in the laundry room on a rolling dolly to wheel outside when the fai daps. Turn the key and it goes. How is this more difficult than solar cells and batteries and wires and cloudy days and ...?

What makes it difficult is that the grid goes down for a minute or two often several times a day. That brief outage is enough force you to reset whatever needs reset.

[Giggle]

It's not ideal, for sure, but it beats having no electric.

It must be run outdoors, as it's a gas-powered combustion engine. Put it in a carport or any overhang near the house and it will be fine. It's a little bit noisy and a little bit smelly, but it provides enough juice to power tv, computer, multiple fans, refrigerator, etc. I've never tried to use an air conditioner with it. I use a workman's extension into the center of the house and then individual cords to where I need them.



Remember, this is only a temporary setup, and usually only required a few months a year. They're doing road construction near my house and had a couple full-day, planned outages this winter. This setup worked perfectly.

It's often difficult to tell how long the power will be down and I only drag the generator out if it's unbearably scorching, or it's been longer than 2 hours. Such is the price we pay for living in paradise.

[Natas]

If you do not have facts. Do not post hearsay. Seriously posting this..

that could be why he put a question mark after the title to stop a smart arse like you making a stupid commant...ha ha !
sean

To bait ignorant types such as yourself.

[tamada]

To bait ignorant types such as yourself.

pot...

kettle...

[SJP17]

Why do you think certain individuals urged self-sufficiency so often?
If you have to rely on the competence and professionalism of others, you will likely be quite often disappointed here.

Buy a generator and avoid the uncomfortable stretches at 40+ degrees when the pros at PEA are unravelling their handiwork.

I am considering buying a Honda 2200i portable generator. I have seen many short videos on how to operate and store long term. What I have not seen and I did an extensive search, is what extension cord to use and how to use it.. I read a post here to purchase a weather proof one from tool pro. Also, I want to run the generator outside but it says not to operate outdoors in wet weather which is when most outages occur.

How do you connect various items to the generator if they are located in different areas of the house. I can see a multi-pronged extension cord but how do I plug in items such as a tv or fan if located in different rooms.I realize I can connect if I limit all hookups to one room which is rather limiting especially if I want to plug in items in both the kitchen and bedroom. And I know I am limited by wattage as to what I can plug into the generator. Can anyone advise?

You need to install a change over switch so that you can run your house safely on generator power as it will isolate the mains power.

Anyone running a gennie and plugging straight into the ring main is taking a risk of frying someone or thier self.

Cable reels across the floor arent the best either and would'nt be required with a proper change over switch set up.

[SJP17]

You want the best system then get a generator set up with an automatic change over switch and use a diesel generator.

http://www.generatorsolutions.org/

These guys will provide the full package.

[glalt]

I have a 5,000 watt generator at the farm that runs a 1 HP submersible pump for irrigation. Ii runs fine but the generator quit working. No voltage. It has to be taken to the shop to see what the problem is.

I have a 3,500 watt at the house that will run the submersible pump but the starting surge is very hard on it. Now it sprung a gasoline leak at the tank shut off valve and will not start anyways. I'll take my solar power anytime over a generator regardless of the cost.

[Giggle]

so that you can run your house safely on generator power.

Some of us don't want to run the entire house on generator power. The electric will be back on in a few hours. Maybe a day in the worst case. Why over-engineer a temporary and relatively (in most cases) infrequent problem?

Anyone running a gennie and plugging straight into the ring main is taking a risk of frying someone or thier self.

Don't think anyone's suggested that. I don't even know what a ring main is. Is it a relative of the ring piece?

Cable reels across the floor arent the best either and would'nt be required with a proper change over switch set up.

Probably true. But so to would be relocating to Siberia. Some of us just want a fan and a computer for 12 hours a year without ISO shipping container out in the back yard back running diesel generators that could power the village.

I've managed well for many years with my Kwai Thong on wheels and extension cord. Perhaps I'll look into some "Tripping Hazard" signs in case the inspectors swing by.

I also have batteries in my flashlight that require special care and attention. Perhaps I'll start a new thread.

[SJP17]

so that you can run your house safely on generator power.

Some of us don't want to run the entire house on generator power. The electric will be back on in a few hours. Maybe a day in the worst case. Why over-engineer a temporary and relatively (in most cases) infrequent problem?

Anyone running a gennie and plugging straight into the ring main is taking a risk of frying someone or thier self.

Don't think anyone's suggested that. I don't even know what a ring main is. Is it a relative of the ring piece?

Cable reels across the floor arent the best either and would'nt be required with a proper change over switch set up.

Probably true. But so to would be relocating to Siberia. Some of us just want a fan and a computer for 12 hours a year without ISO shipping container out in the back yard back running diesel generators that could power the village.

I've managed well for many years with my Kwai Thong on wheels and extension cord. Perhaps I'll look into some "Tripping Hazard" signs in case the inspectors swing by.

I also have batteries in my flashlight that require special care and attention. Perhaps I'll start a new thread.

You could by a manual change over switch for about 120 dollars and use your Kwai Thong with no extension cord lying on the floor, have a bit of gumption giggle.

[vincemunday]

I'm no expert when it comes to electricity and I have a question. My generator is connected to my loop for lights and to the home fridge. All of my lighting is LED an thus really low wattage, the fridge freezer is quite big but probably no more than 1200 watts on start up. My generator is 2.8 kw and after checking it would seem my Samsung air con in the bedroom is only 850w on start up.

After reading some of the above, it would seem that as long as I stagger the fridge freezer and air con start up my generator should be fine to run both? Is this a fair assumption?

[glalt]

A safe way to use your generator. I isolated a ten amp breaker that runs essential things. I installed a double throw switch. Down position is grid connected and up position is the generator. No way can the grid and generator be connected at the same time.

[minimiglia]

I'm no expert when it comes to electricity and I have a question. My generator is connected to my loop for lights and to the home fridge. All of my lighting is LED an thus really low wattage, the fridge freezer is quite big but probably no more than 1200 watts on start up. My generator is 2.8 kw and after checking it would seem my Samsung air con in the bedroom is only 850w on start up.

After reading some of the above, it would seem that as long as I stagger the fridge freezer and air con start up my generator should be fine to run both? Is this a fair assumption?

yes will be fine, so much better than a solar system, a good solar system to do the same will cost hundreds of thousands, no contest

[747man]

Had an Hour's Power cut last night in Nongers 7.15pm to 8.15 pm...

[tamada]

A safe way to use your generator. I isolated a ten amp breaker that runs essential things. I installed a double throw switch. Down position is grid connected and up position is the generator. No way can the grid and generator be connected at the same time.

Switch.jpg

Frankly, even considering the picture orientation not matching the description, that looks quite scary. An open knife-switch style mains switch mounted on a wooden window frame.

Is the (disconnected) phone line for emergencies? Like when some poor bugger gets zapped?

Is there a large, dry, wooden stick nearby?

[glalt]

If you click on the photo, it will magnify and orient itself correctly. That small line is an outdoor sensor for a thermometer, not a phone line. I consider the simple setup safer than a double ended plug.

You sound like my wife complaining about my wire jungle. Here's another photo for you to criticize,

[glalt]

I happen to know what every wire is for and when I add or take something off, it is in the open and simple. Yes, I could spend a couple days re-routing wires and putting everything in a nice cabinet, but why should I. I have offered to put up a wall so my wife doesn't have to look at the jungle, but she just walks away. She doesn't complain when the grid is down and she has Internet, TV, lights and a fan.

[minimiglia]

Well said Gary all we do is turn main isolator off and plug in generator and start it up so easy, and just reverse when power come back

[tamada]

If you click on the photo, it will magnify and orient itself correctly. That small line is an outdoor sensor for a thermometer, not a phone line. I consider the simple setup safer than a double ended plug.

You sound like my wife complaining about my wire jungle. Here's another photo for you to criticize,

Wires.jpg

All manifestations of the double-ended (male-to-male) plug are evil, dangerous and to be avoided.

Your lash-up comes a close second though. I gather you and your good wife have adequate insurance coverages in place, personal and property.

[tamada]

Well said Gary all we do is turn main isolator off and plug in generator and start it up so easy, and just reverse when power come back

Yes, an intrinsically safe changeover option where something is always off (totally isolated) before it's ever plugged in (connected).

Can you post a snapshot of your rats nest?

[glalt]

If you click on the photo, it will magnify and orient itself correctly. That small line is an outdoor sensor for a thermometer, not a phone line. I consider the simple setup safer than a double ended plug.

You sound like my wife complaining about my wire jungle. Here's another photo for you to criticize,

Wires.jpg

All manifestations of the double-ended (male-to-male) plug are evil, dangerous and to be avoided.

Your lash-up comes a close second though. I gather you and your good wife have adequate insurance coverages in place, personal and property.

I have absolutely no insurance. I don't remember ever seeing a house fire or injuries caused by a 12 volt battery powered solar system. I'm willing to take my chances.