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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jimjay » December 20, 2017, 10:09 pm

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Democrats lost over 1,000 elected offices nationwide during Obama's 8 years. They must like losing.
That's true. They were very stupid to choose that sea hag Shillary Clinton. I still can't figure out why she got promoted to such high positions, just because her husband got his cock smoked by the secretary. Is the establishment so old school they figured this was gonna turn out good for them?

Republicans just bowed to their puppet master, they're actually starting to realize just follow the guy, even though they can't stand him. They seem completely scared to get "tweeted at". It's actually entertaining to watch them cower, but not as the country is driven into the ground.

Maybe all the psycho stuff is just a front to keep the opposition on the back heel. He's thrown complete hacks into just about every major position. Only thing that's saved him so far is John F. Kelly.

Think Russia and China will fight us if we attack North Korea?



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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » December 21, 2017, 7:40 am

The "Destruction of America Show" is being brought to you by America's propogandized and ignorant White people, courtesy of Putin's decade long initiative to do exactly that.

Enjoy! :)

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

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ytrewq wrote:
December 21, 2017, 7:40 am
The "Destruction of America Show" is being brought to you by America's propogandized and ignorant White people, courtesy of Putin's decade long initiative to do exactly that.

Enjoy! :)
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Sport » December 21, 2017, 11:38 am

The President of the United States of America, Mr Donald Trump, wishes everybody in Udon Thani a MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and prosperous New Year.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by pipoz4444 » December 21, 2017, 11:48 am

Tall Poppy Syndrome: The tall poppy syndrome describes aspects of a culture of some, where people of high status are resented, attacked, cut down and or criticized, simply because they have been classified as or achieved a position, superior to their peers. This is similar to begrudgery - the resentment or envy of any person who has achieved success or wealth.

Zero-sum Prestige: This zero-sum pattern can be found in groups characterized by fixed hierarchies and where there is little movement in or out of the group. Examples, include Snow Flake communities. A related concept is that of a crab mentality in which successful members of a disadvantaged community (i.e. Snow Flakes) undermine the standing of other Community Members. The image is drawn from the observation that a crab clawing its way out of a bucket (or barrel) is pulled back down by its fellows. (I have added a few words into the definition \:D/ :lol: )

I wonder how many of the Trump critics, are simply driven by the envy of what he has achieved in life and what they themselves have not been able to achieve. :-"

Either way, "History" has a way of looking back, as it will undoubtedly do in this case, to determine whether what he (Trump) has done during his time in the Oval Office has been best for America as a whole and best for the majority of the people. It will not focus on one single event or mistake, as many of the Critics and Snowflakes do, but rather, History will take a balanced view.

I will make my call in three years time \:D/

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by fdimike » December 21, 2017, 1:12 pm

:-" :-&
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Jello » December 21, 2017, 10:22 pm

AP FACT CHECK: Trump's 'middle-class miracle' favors wealthy
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimates the biggest benefit of the new law will go to households making $308,000 to $733,000. Households making over that should get a tax cut worth 3.4 percent of their after-tax income. For the richest 0.1 percent (making over $3.4 million), the tax cut should be worth 2.7 percent of their after-tax income. For middle-income earners: 1.6 percent, the center estimates.
Moreover, only high-income people would get a meaningful tax cut after 2025, when nearly all of the plan's individual income tax provisions are due to expire.
Republicans argue that the middle class will also see benefits from the business tax cuts, in the form of more jobs and higher wages.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factchec ... spartanntp
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » December 21, 2017, 10:56 pm

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December 20, 2017, 9:11 pm
Tax Cut Package passes the Senate. On to the House for a vote and to Trump's desk for signing.

Not one Democrat voted for employed Americans to keep more of what they earn. Democrats lost over 1,000 elected offices nationwide during Obama's 8 years. They must like losing.

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The GOP tax plan diverges wildly from the promises President Trump and top advisers said they would deliver for the middle class — an evolution that shows how traditional Republican orthodoxy swamped Trump’s distinctive brand of economic populism as it moved through Washington.

What has just been approved is a massive corporate tax cut with uneven benefits for the middle class that could end up increasing taxes for many working families.

A review of more than 40 public statements that stretch back to the 2016 campaign and interviews with key officials in the White House and Congress shows how Trump and his top advisers have continuously prioritized corporate cuts.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 21, 2017, 11:02 pm

On this topic....

https://youtu.be/hH-wCe5oAv8


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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 22, 2017, 6:29 am

What a schoolyard bully the US is, threatening to withdraw aid from those UN members not voting with them on Jerusalem. What happened to democracy...how pathetic!!!!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 22, 2017, 6:33 am

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What a schoolyard bully the US is, threatening to withdraw aid from those UN members not voting with them on Jerusalem. What happened to democracy...how pathetic!!!!
1. The funds the US government uses for anything comes from taxpayers.

2. The US is not a democracy -- and neither is the UN. The US can put their embassies wherever they wish -- just as any other country can also do.

3. Do you give money to people with whom you don't agree?

If it were up to me -- and many Americans -- the US would withdraw from the UN and kick their a55es out of the US.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 22, 2017, 6:42 am

tamada wrote:
December 21, 2017, 10:56 pm
The GOP tax plan diverges wildly from the promises President Trump and top advisers said they would deliver for the middle class — an evolution that shows how traditional Republican orthodoxy swamped Trump’s distinctive brand of economic populism as it moved through Washington.

What has just been approved is a massive corporate tax cut with uneven benefits for the middle class that could end up increasing taxes for many working families.

A review of more than 40 public statements that stretch back to the 2016 campaign and interviews with key officials in the White House and Congress shows how Trump and his top advisers have continuously prioritized corporate cuts.
And not one damn word from the legislation to back up anything you claim. You're getting to be just like some others on here who just throw rocks at passing cars.
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Go read the legislation and provide your evidence. Not some media hack's take on it because they lie -- and they lied about what was in this law. The legislation. It's public now.

As for corporate tax cuts, I agree completely with the cuts. The US has not been business-friendly for years. Highest corporate tax rate in the world. Double taxation on profits generated from overseas. Regulations that stifled growth and expansion. All of those corporations have employees. When they make more money, they not only contribute more to the economy, but they contribute more to the tax coffers. Go look at all the news headlines from the past 48 hours about employee bonuses from major corporations that were triggered by this tax cut package.

Give everyone MORE of what they earn.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jai yen yen » December 22, 2017, 6:54 am

Lone Star wrote:
December 22, 2017, 6:42 am
tamada wrote:
December 21, 2017, 10:56 pm
The GOP tax plan diverges wildly from the promises President Trump and top advisers said they would deliver for the middle class — an evolution that shows how traditional Republican orthodoxy swamped Trump’s distinctive brand of economic populism as it moved through Washington.

What has just been approved is a massive corporate tax cut with uneven benefits for the middle class that could end up increasing taxes for many working families.

A review of more than 40 public statements that stretch back to the 2016 campaign and interviews with key officials in the White House and Congress shows how Trump and his top advisers have continuously prioritized corporate cuts.
And not one damn word from the legislation to back up anything you claim. You're getting to be just like some others on here who just throw rocks at passing cars.
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Go read the legislation and provide your evidence. Not some media hack's take on it because they lie -- and they lied about what was in this law. The legislation. It's public now.

As for corporate tax cuts, I agree completely with the cuts. The US has not been business-friendly for years. Highest corporate tax rate in the world. Double taxation on profits generated from overseas. Regulations that stifled growth and expansion. All of those corporations have employees. When they make more money, they not only contribute more to the economy, but they contribute more to the tax coffers. Go look at all the news headlines from the past 48 hours about employee bonuses from major corporations that were triggered by this tax cut package.

Give everyone MORE of what they earn.

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You are right again but you are just wasting your time trying to explain the facts to many on this forum.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 22, 2017, 7:08 am

jai yen yen wrote:
December 22, 2017, 6:54 am
You are right again but you are just wasting your time trying to explain the facts to many on this forum.
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Oh, I know. 555 I had some time to waste this morning during coffee time. :D
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by FrazeeDK » December 22, 2017, 11:36 am

the basic front side of the tax plan pretty much decreases taxes for about 83% of all tax payers.. Tax rates for most go down. I'll end up paying about $1200 a year less.. Those who'll get hit are those more well to do folks from higher taxing States who will only be able to deduct ten thousand dollars off their Fed taxes and those with very high priced homes with significantly large interest payments who won't be able to deduct nearly as much.

The unknown side of this legislation are those "details" hidden inside it.. Much like ACA needed to be "passed before we read it (Pelosi) this bill got lots of tweaks and deals done before it was rammed through Congress with minimal debate.

the vitriol spewing from the Dem side of how this tax bill is a "give away to the rich" and will "rob future generations" is of course hyperbole. These same Dems have never been fiscal hawks and certainly didn't seem to mind the 10 trillion in additional debt absorbed by the U.S. during the Obama administration.

Neither side is brave enough to tackle non-discretionary spending seriously nor confront the gaping maw of Defense which hoovers up hundreds of billions of dollars with plenty wasted.. The debt time-bomb ticks away..
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 22, 2017, 1:50 pm

National Debt is not a rich person problem..so who cares...con the WT masses....

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by fdimike » December 22, 2017, 7:12 pm

LS
1. So why do we have a national debt of nearly $20Trillion and more on the way courtesy of Trump and co.? In actuality the US National Debt is rather complex because the government continues to borrow money from just about any place they can get their hands on it. Social Security funds, US pension funds, Military Retirement funds, Medicare Trust funds, foreign countries like China ($1.2trillion) etc etc etc. That's only the very tip of the iceberg.
2. If the US is not a democracy then what is it? Please enlighten us. Same for the UN.
2a. Normally an embassy is located in the capital of a country. However, consulates can be just about anywhere there is a need. ie there is a US Consulate in Chiang Mai
3. The US has for many years given foreign aid money to countries run by dictators, and other unsavory leaders. ie S Vietnam, Iran, Israel, to name just a few
The United States is part of the world community and as such is a member of the only functioning world body today. Membership in the UN is not like a kids game of play by my rules or I'm taking my ball and going home. The UN is run on the principles of diplomacy something that Trump would have a hard time spelling much less know its meaning.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tigerryan » December 22, 2017, 8:52 pm

FD
1. Social security and Medicare are not the tip of the iceberg they are the iceberg. Reduce then eliminate the programs or continue with the massive unfunded liabilities.
2. The United States is not a Democracy its a Federalist Republic understand this or enjoy being deranged like Rosie Odonell or Michael Moore
3. The US is not "part" of a "community" the US is a pillar of dominance and power fighting to stay on the top of the heap. There is nothing co equal with say China and Laos or the US and Oman. The UN has reduced itself to a childish debate society it no longer serves a purpose. Shut It Down!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 22, 2017, 10:33 pm

fdimike wrote:
December 22, 2017, 7:12 pm
LS
1. So why do we have a national debt of nearly $20Trillion and more on the way courtesy of Trump and co.? In actuality the US National Debt is rather complex because the government continues to borrow money from just about any place they can get their hands on it. Social Security funds, US pension funds, Military Retirement funds, Medicare Trust funds, foreign countries like China ($1.2trillion) etc etc etc. That's only the very tip of the iceberg.
2. If the US is not a democracy then what is it? Please enlighten us. Same for the UN.
2a. Normally an embassy is located in the capital of a country. However, consulates can be just about anywhere there is a need. ie there is a US Consulate in Chiang Mai
3. The US has for many years given foreign aid money to countries run by dictators, and other unsavory leaders. ie S Vietnam, Iran, Israel, to name just a few
The United States is part of the world community and as such is a member of the only functioning world body today. Membership in the UN is not like a kids game of play by my rules or I'm taking my ball and going home. The UN is run on the principles of diplomacy something that Trump would have a hard time spelling much less know its meaning.
1. The budget for 2017 was done by the previous Congress in 2016. Please list what's "on the way" courtesy of Trump. Have you studied the budget for 2018? Obama created more debt than all 43 previous presidents combined. Ask him about $20 Trillion in debt and borrowing money from China and other places.

2. The US is a federal republic, which is based on the rule of law and not on what the majority wants to happen -- as is done in a democracy. The Founders and Framers absolutely did NOT want a democracy. Read up.

You also might be interested in reading about the Security Council of the UN. There are five permanent members -- any one of which can veto any resolution agreed upon by the 14 other members. Does that sound like a democracy to you? :)

2a. Countries can determine where they want their embassies as long as the host country agrees. I wonder how many foreign countries have their embassies in New York City and not in Washington DC? :)

3. All of what you listed is what occurred under previous administrations -- not Trump. Welcome to 2017 and beyond. :)

The UN is a huge trash can. The US needs to get out and then push them out.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 22, 2017, 10:57 pm

LS, hopefully when America is great again you can return. \:D/

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