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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 16, 2018, 7:37 am

As of November, 2017, there were/(are?) 132 ranking people in the White House without permanent security clearances. 47 of those report directly to the Office of the POTUS and handle highly classified information. Ivanka, and Jared Kushner are among those who failed the FBI screening but continue to have access to the highest level secrets and information.

Historically, it is infrequent (but not uncommon) for a person to be issued a temporary clearance as the FBI investigates. There is often a backlog when a new administration comes in. The typical duration is 1-2 months. However, in past administrations, if someone did not pass the FBI investigation, that person was removed or terminated. Having a person (never mind 100++) continue in their position for over a year after an FBI disqualification is unprecedented.

The FBI concluded its investigation of Rob Porter in June/July 2017. They issued their final report regarding him prior to that. It would have been immediately known he had a disqualification after a simple name check performed in January/February 2017.

Trump hires crooked crooks, lying liars, and people who are security threats. Undereducated and/or stupid people are unable to comprehend the reality of Trump. If you voted Republican, then YOU are complicit and responsible for whatever they do. Own it.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » February 16, 2018, 8:07 am

Finally a president who supports the N R A at all costs!!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2018, 10:39 am

ytrewq wrote:
February 16, 2018, 7:37 am
As of November, 2017, there were/(are?) 132 ranking people in the White House without permanent security clearances. 47 of those report directly to the Office of the POTUS and handle highly classified information. Ivanka, and Jared Kushner are among those who failed the FBI screening but continue to have access to the highest level secrets and information.

Historically, it is infrequent (but not uncommon) for a person to be issued a temporary clearance as the FBI investigates. There is often a backlog when a new administration comes in. The typical duration is 1-2 months. However, in past administrations, if someone did not pass the FBI investigation, that person was removed or terminated. Having a person (never mind 100++) continue in their position for over a year after an FBI disqualification is unprecedented.

The FBI concluded its investigation of Rob Porter in June/July 2017. They issued their final report regarding him prior to that. It would have been immediately known he had a disqualification after a simple name check performed in January/February 2017.

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So? And what exactly do you propose happen as a result? :)

As Frazee DK said:
I'd like to hear how many political members of previous administrations held such high level "interim" clearances for over a year....
Is this part of your list of "a plethora of other malfeasance and criminal acts"? 55555
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » February 16, 2018, 6:37 pm

dragonz wrote:
February 14, 2018, 12:28 pm
tamada wrote:
February 13, 2018, 11:34 pm
dragonz wrote:
February 10, 2018, 4:11 pm
best post i have seen today . Waste of time with qwerty backwords as he is really the bottom of the barrel . I feel a little bit ashamed to be human with people like him the same species (i think) Hiding behind his anonomous silly name , calling every member of his fellow men obscene names in every one of his post just because they have different views from him .
Uneducated ?A person who has to call everyone of his fellow membrs on this forum obscene names just to get his point across does not strike me as educated . Just a thuggish , cowardly lout . Should be redacted
But the First Amendment says...
yeh what , can i call a black guy a niggar , can i call an italian a wop ,how about a queer ,a kike ,a dyke or any of these following names he has called me and every trump supporter and a lot of people on this forum
loonies
uneducated
undereducated
stupid american white people
anti-american
zenophobic
bigots
rascists
old white american males
white trash
people who masturbate each other
easily controlled
guillible
monkeys
alpha males
throw bananas
spank each other
should be brainwashed (politically educated)
Which of these is protected by the first amendment ? none of them would protect him if he said it to peoples faces which is why he spouts this hatred behind qwerty backwards .He is a coward. There is not such thing as free name calling so is suggest you re-read the first amendment
Nope. Even after that strange exercise in making a list, I still don't see any need for anything to be redacted.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 16, 2018, 6:52 pm

tamada wrote:
February 16, 2018, 6:37 pm

Nope. Even after that strange exercise in making a list, I still don't see any need for anything to be redacted.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jai yen yen » February 17, 2018, 12:06 am

ytrewq wrote:
February 15, 2018, 12:18 pm
So, in addition to colluding with Russia to steal the election, obstructing the FBI investigation into that and the subsequent cover-up, and a plethora of other malfeasance and criminal acts, the latest scandal is that Trump allowed someone (Rob Porter) who FAILED security clearance by the FBI to be the gatekeeper of America's most sensitive and secretive intelligence for almost an entire year. Porter's job was to accept classified documents and decide what gets to Trump's desk. For almost an ENTIRE YEAR (!!!).

Someone had to have waived his security clearance, but nobody seems to know who is directly responsible. Well, regardless who that might be, Trump is ultimately responsible for anything and everything that happens on his watch. Especially when the perp is literally in his presence frequently and daily.

Of course, the undereducated are unable to comprehend the gravity of what is happening. So let's just sum it up as :

Trump = bad, stupid man
Trump supporters = stupider than bad, stupid man
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I am a Trump supporter, maybe not very smart but I do know there is no such word as stupider.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » February 17, 2018, 1:22 am

jai yen yen wrote:
February 17, 2018, 12:06 am
I am a Trump supporter, maybe not very smart but I do know there is no such word as stupider.[/quote]

Now, now Jai, don't be too harsh, it could be that ytrewq is an uneducated simpleton.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 17, 2018, 3:09 am

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/stupid

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 17, 2018, 6:21 am

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27248/bo ... s-barrett?

Special Counsel Says No American Knowingly Involved In Russian Interference

No Evidence that any Russian meddling affected the outcome of the election.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 17, 2018, 8:11 am

...and Skippy is the textbook example of a rabid Trump supporter (and the word). Skippy doesn't understand legal tactics, but over-eager to copy/paste someone else's right-wing spin (I wanted to say "propaganda" but that's a big word). This round of indictments was all about the Russians involved. Several Americans have ALREADY been indicted including Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, and Paul Manafort.

If anyone encounters Skippy IRL, please give Skippy a hug. But most importantly, research how to effectively communicate before engaging:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow. ... on%3famp=1

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Doodoo » February 17, 2018, 8:20 am

Unfortunately gentlemen there is a word "Stupider". I myself was unaware until I looked it up on Dictionary.com
Also I am a Mustangs fan, for the University of Western Ontario (I know this has noting to do with the subject)

adjective, stupider, stupidest.
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless:
a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless:
a stupid party.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 17, 2018, 9:03 am

I prefer the Oxford definition (to which I linked above) as it also alludes to a lack of common sense - a characteristic of all Trump supporters. Especially zealots like Skippy.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 17, 2018, 9:22 am

Yes, and one of the things lost on many is that this Russian meddling began in 2014 -- long before Trump even declared his candidacy.
Mr Rosenstein said the conspiracy was designed to “promote discord in the United States and undermine public confidence in democracy”.

One way the accused did this was by simultaneously staging rallies for and against Mr Trump after he was elected.

“For example, the defendants organised one rally to support the president-elect and another to oppose him, both in New York on the same day,” he said.

Before Mr Trump was elected, some of the defendants, who were posing as Americans, communicated with “unwitting” members of the Trump campaign to “co-ordinate political activities”, the indictment alleges.

“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity,” Mr Rosenstein said.

“The nature of the scheme was that the defendants took extraordinary steps to make it appear that they were ordinary political activists.”

Mr Rosenstein added that there was no allegation in the indictment that the conspiracy altered the outcome of the election.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » February 17, 2018, 9:24 am

Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2018, 8:20 am
Also I am a Mustangs fan, for the University of Western Ontario (I know this has noting to do with the subject)

Great party school,,,great football and hockey teams.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 17, 2018, 10:12 am

Trump cuts refugee resettlement by 70% overall and 79% so far in 2018.

Every year, Americans have been forced to pay more than $860 million in costs to provide welfare to the mass amounts of foreign refugees who have been resettled across the country, costing taxpayers in total nearly $2 billion a year overall.

Taxpayers continue to enjoy WINNING.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 17, 2018, 10:52 am

So, I'm thinking to myself before a simply mah-velous breakfast: Nobody can be as dimwitted as Skippy. Not even Skippy.

So, what if he (defaulting here) isn't actually a dimwit? Well, that would mean he would have to be something else. Hmmmm...but what else? It is hard to imagine him as anything else.

What do we know about Skippy? Presumably, he resides in Udon Thani. He is an angry old American white male. Obviously (to anyone who is educated), he is undereducated. Unlikely that he has a local job and probably an otherwise run-of-the-mill destitute farang. He absolutely hovers over the political threads like it's his full-time job.

Hold on. Didn't I encounter something about that somewhere awhile ago? Oh, now I remember (kudos to Google):

http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-i ... ump-2016-7

One may presume these hired Russian trolls have a farm of various obscure opinion and fake or spun news sites to which they can link to "support" their propaganda objectives. That would allow them to share or even create their own articles. Perhaps they are compensated for hits to those sites? That would explain the frequent links.

The whole world (for the undereducated, that includes Russian propaganda specialists) knows Americans are generally politically lazy and stupid. The Bush years proved that. Most of all, they are arrogant. They are conditioned to believe they CANNOT be propagandized - after all, they are American! (ha!) That very arrogance makes them ripe and receptive targets. Especially the old angry white males who comprise the majority of the Trump zealots. They rarely subscribe to or check established credible (award-winning) sources, preferring instead to take the easy candy any propagandist offers up to them because it validates their established point of view, prejudices, and biases. Put another way: Remaining stupid and ignorant is both easy and comfortable.

Could it be the moderators aren't aware he could be a hired Russian troll? Would they care? They probably would have to investigate Skippy's posting habits, aliases, etc. Nah, too much effort. Udonmap does not advertise itself to be a Quora, so why care so long as the site gets hits. Nope. Does not matter.

So, what do I care anyway? I don't, ultimately. Skippy the Russian is my entertainment monkey. TIT and life in Thailand is good!

\:D/

Bananna, Skippy the Russian troll?

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » February 17, 2018, 10:56 am

Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2018, 8:20 am
Unfortunately gentlemen there is a word "Stupider". I myself was unaware until I looked it up on Dictionary.com
Boy, do I ever feel 'stupider'.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by trekkertony » February 17, 2018, 4:54 pm

Those of us who are Antipodean, from crass convict stock use the phrase 'more stupid' besides this intrusion into this amusing thread l feel sure Uncle Donald, if given the chance would say to Lone Star, Laan Yaa Mo and others who support his efforts in turning the USA economy and the status of the USA around," if you see a turd on the footpath, step around it It is time for the turd to be ignored.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by glalt » February 17, 2018, 7:27 pm

trekkertony wrote:
February 17, 2018, 4:54 pm
Those of us who are Antipodean, from crass convict stock use the phrase 'more stupid' besides this intrusion into this amusing thread l feel sure Uncle Donald, if given the chance would say to Lone Star, Laan Yaa Mo and others who support his efforts in turning the USA economy and the status of the USA around," if you see a turd on the footpath, step around it It is time for the turd to be ignored.
I like it. The Donald should have ignored the rabid democrats months ago. For a political party to have no agenda other than hating Trump is sad to say the least. If he stops trading insults with them, maybe there is a small chance that they will get bored with their obstructionist useless agenda and do the job they were elected to do. YES, I know that's not likely but you never know.

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