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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Giggle » July 7, 2018, 1:46 pm

McCain voted in favor of diverting money from injured servicemen in order to allow for sex reassignment surgeries. At that very moment he lost all my respect. He can't die soon enough.


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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 7, 2018, 3:00 pm

Jello wrote:
July 7, 2018, 9:59 am
Not making the grade on public opinion:
American voters disapprove 55 - 40 percent of the job President Trump is doing, compared to a 52 - 43 percent disapproval rating in a June 20 Quinnipiac University National Poll and reversing a trend which showed Trump's net approval inching up.

The president gets negative grades on most character traits:
58 - 38 percent say he is not honest;
55 - 43 percent say he does not have good leadership skills;
55 - 43 percent say he does not care about average Americans;
62 - 34 percent say he is not level-headed;
63 - 32 percent say he is a strong person;
57 - 39 say he is intelligent;
60 - 37 percent say he does not share their values;
62 - 36 percent say he does not provide the U.S. with moral leadership.

Voters approve 53 - 39 percent of Trump's meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin and approve 51 - 40 percent of the way the president is handling the nation's policy toward North Korea.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-de ... aseID=2554
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The most important part of ANY poll are the demographics. Just who the hell did they poll? So I selected that Quinnipiac University poll link that you provided and did a search for the demographics.

I took screenshots of the .pdf demographics. Posted below.

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And look what the hell I found. 55555

This poll is foolishness.

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Spanish? Questioned some of the respondents in Spanish if they were more comfortable responding that way? What the hell is that? 55555

24% of the poll was Republican respondents, and 76% were NOT Republican.

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Yeah, that's fair. That's a good poll. Give me a frickin' break.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 7, 2018, 3:14 pm

Jello wrote:
July 7, 2018, 9:59 am
Walk away truth or fiction?
There’s little actual evidence to suggest that #WalkAway represents a mass conversion of millions — or even thousands — of Democrats to the Trump Train since Straka’s video. Instead, the #WalkAway hashtag is going Conservative Internet viral on the same hope driving recent pro-Trump support of Kanye West: that the country is on the verge of a mass conversion to conservative thought, a Great Awakening of sorts. And the thing about anticipating an awakening is that it never actually has to happen for the idea of it to go viral.

The pro-Trump Internet is really good at convincing its audience that going viral signals popular opinion, that its movement is and always will be #winning. In this case, #WalkAway is the answer to the possibility of a Blue Wave in the 2018 midterms. It doesn’t need to be true to be effective. After all, the hashtag has now become an article in The Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... df8ed27481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ5GE0i ... ioxesWGfwg
And nothing in any of those sources have any evidence that the #WalkAway Movement is not happening.

Conservatives are the LAST group on the Internet who can get messages out. Their pages and accounts are routinely suspended for being conservative, while Leftist hate pages continue to grow and thrive. The latest of this nonsense was a Facebook page that was suspended for posting the Declaration of Independence because Facebook labeled it as "hate speech."

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/05/poli ... index.html

So the fact that the article in WaPo refers to "The pro-Trump Internet" as having any standing at all in cyberspace is BS from jump.

Anyone can join the #WalkAway Movement's Facebook page. Join and see for yourselves what it's all about.

We will certainly see in November. :)
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Jello » July 8, 2018, 1:19 am

Lone Star wrote:
July 7, 2018, 3:00 pm

This poll is foolishness.

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24% of the poll was Republican respondents, and 76% were NOT Republican.
Those numbers match up pretty close to the demographics of the US according to Gallup:

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As you can see, the Democrat numbers have been the same over the last 4 months which would suggest that the walkaway movment has not created any mass movement of Dems.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 8, 2018, 7:54 am

Jello wrote:
July 8, 2018, 1:19 am

Those numbers match up pretty close to the demographics of the US according to Gallup:

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So are we polling political affiliation, or are we polling what people think of Trump's characteristics? :)

In a political poll, there is already inherent bias in both Democrats and Republicans. It is rare for one to cross over in support of any issue or politician. To skew a political poll with more of either one of the party affiliations makes the poll irrelevant. If it was a poll showing preferences for automobile brands or a poll tracking the importance of exercise, political affiliation wouldn't be an issue. Since the survey is directly related to politics, balance is necessary for the poll to have any credibility.

Where Independents are concerned, there may be a large percentage who identify as "independent", but independent candidates don't get near the percentage of votes to correlate with independent voters. In short, independent voters are not true independents. They side with one party or the other when it comes down to voting (see the 2016 presidential election results below).

All of this points to one thing. In order for a political poll that rates a candidate's effectiveness or characteristics to be taken seriously and to have any integrity, there needs to be a balance in political party affiliation. Skewed in either direction makes the results skewed and pretty much inconsequential. Of course a poll with more Democrats is going to show a Republican unfavorably.

If skewed polls are cool with you, that's you. I doubt that results generated from skewed polls are beneficial to anyone trying to learn anything about political issues and candidates.

As for the Gallup Poll showing party affiliation, that is a poll in and of itself of a sampling of Americans. In what regions of the country was the poll taken? Which states? In what areas -- urban or rural? What age groups? Etc.

The best baromoter for classifying party affiliation in the US was the last presidential election. Trump got 45.9%, Hillary got 48.02%, Independent candidates received a little less than 6%. So while a huge percentage of Americans claim to be "independent", they don't vote that way. There is also evidence that suggests that MANY Republicans voted "independent" because they didn't want to vote for Trump.

In summary, polls about characteristics and likability are cool and all that, but they don't reflect the work being done that are mostly successes accomplished in the last 17 months.

So we've learned from that Quinnipiac Poll that there's people who don't like Trump. Yep. We knew that. We knew that LONG before the poll was taken. We also learned that there is a huge number of non-Republicans in that poll. Yep, anyone could have predicted the poll turning out that way with that imbalance. No one who would be interested in the results of that poll would need a skewed poll to tell them what they already surmised. 555

Liked or not -- in a skewed poll -- Trump is getting the job done.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 8, 2018, 7:59 am

Jello wrote:
July 8, 2018, 1:19 am
As you can see, the Democrat numbers have been the same over the last 4 months which would suggest that the walkaway movment has not created any mass movement of Dems.
The #WalkAway movement began on or about May 30, 2018. That was two days before the most current date of June 1, 2018 in your Gallup Poll graphic. There would be no significant fluctuation just two days after a video was posted that eventually went viral.

The only fact is that the movement exists and people are claiming to leave the Democrat Party. There is no way to efficiently measure the effectiveness of #WalkAway until the next election.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vincemunday » July 9, 2018, 8:48 am

There is a God after all...

Apparently there are very strong rumours that Hillary is going to run again in 2020 thus almost definitely ensuring a second term for Trump should he decide he's also running.

Let's pray that the rumours that she's out there looking for funding are true.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 9, 2018, 9:30 am

vincemunday wrote:
July 9, 2018, 8:48 am
There is a God after all...

Apparently there are very strong rumours that Hillary is going to run again in 2020 thus almost definitely ensuring a second term for Trump should he decide he's also running.

Let's pray that the rumours that she's out there looking for funding are true.
Another dagger through the heart of the Democrat party. I don't think that any of those considering running will back out and give her the floor again. Hillary is a multiple LOSER. Yes, all caps.

There will be other women running for the Dems this time, so she won't be able to secure that vote. 555 I'm not really sure that her health with hold out -- and maybe not even her freedom. Lots being uncovered about the bogus FBI investigation of her emails by biased agents -- and don't forget about that lovely foundation that had a hefty payroll and expenses to meet before any of the funds were disbursed to the needy.

And don't forget her main problem. Hillary has insulted just about everyone in the world and blamed them for her last loss -- Trump, the Democrat party, Obama, White Men, the Constitution, Stupid Women who listened to their husbands, Sexism, Discrimination, Russians blah blah blah. Think of all of the great political ads that can be made using her own words. 55555 The DNC won't fix the primary process for her this go-round.

I don't think she'll make it out of the primaries.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 9, 2018, 11:50 am

Trump's White House payroll alone saving $22 million, but there's more.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 1d57c14e4f

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While on the campaign trail, President Trump vowed to forego his paycheck. Article II of the U.S. Constitution, however, mandates a presidential salary. Trump has donated his quarterly portions of his $400,000 salary to the Department of Interior, Department of Transportation, Department of Education, Department of Health and Human Services, and most recently the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The rest of the Trump family is also leading by example by foregoing their salaries. First Daughter and Presidential Advisor Ivanka Trump and Son-in-Law Senior Advisor Jared Kushner both refused a salary.

Although the White House personnel budget is an infinitesimal part of the $3.9 trillion federal budget, it is an important forecasting indicator showing Trump’s deep commitment to cut the size, scope and power of the federal government and reign in waste.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vincemunday » July 9, 2018, 12:24 pm

You should read up about her futures trading through my old company Refco, she should be in prison for sure.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 9, 2018, 12:52 pm

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You should read up about her futures trading through my old company Refco, she should be in prison for sure.
I've seen it. There are a special set of laws for the Clintons.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » July 9, 2018, 3:47 pm

And Trump operates and believes he is above the law...whats the difference???

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Doodoo » July 9, 2018, 4:09 pm

Any Politician and I mean any, male, female, straight, gay, in any country is Lying as soon as their mouth opens, believe they are above the Law and will continue so making excuses to say why they are correct and didn't mean to get caught

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by domfromoz » July 9, 2018, 5:11 pm

Even infants are not safe from this @5$&(

Ecuador’s support for an international resolution backing breastfeeding has triggered US threats of punitive trade measures and the axing of military aid.

The Trump administration has forced the South American country to back down over its support for breastfeeding at the United Nations-affiliated World Health Assembly in May, The New York Times reports.

The move reflected the US government’s championing of the $US70 billion ($94 billion) baby formula industry – mainly based in the US and Europe.

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American officials only agreed to the resolution in Geneva when Russia threw its support behind the resolution.

Initial US hostility was triggered by a draft passage calling on governments to “protect, promote and support breast feeding”.

Other wording that called for policy makers to restrict the promotion of food products that could potentially harm children also irked American delegates.

The US directed its ire at Ecuador when the South American nation agreed to introduce the resolution.

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Threats to end vital US military aid and punishing trade measures forced the Ecuador delegates to drop out. But Russia rescued the resolution by stepping in and introducing it.

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“We feel that it is wrong when a big country tries to push around some very small countries, especially on an issue that is really important for the rest of the world,” a Russian delegate told The New York Times.

The US eventually relented and the resolution passed largely in its original form.

With more mothers in developed nations turning to breastfeeding, the Third World is regarded as a potential growth market for infant formula companies.

US President Donald Trump has previously expressed repugnance at the act of breastfeeding.


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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by skinner » July 9, 2018, 5:33 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/heal ... trump.html

USA = BIG BUSINESS . DISGUSTING. No morals , . They obviously do not care about the children of the world, but then that has been obvious for a long, long time. killing indiscriminately in Vietnam , Iraq, Afghanistan to name only a few places, And caring nothing for their own children being gunned down in schools in the name of FREEDOM ??? Strange people !!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vlad » July 9, 2018, 11:14 pm

He Trump is coming to the UK on Thursday let me tell you as i live in the UK is not wanted he knows he is ready to feel the back lash so much so he is refusing to meet anyone he knows will give him a hard time. Quick visit to May no visits back out of the back door see ya. Then he will slag us off on Twitter because he wont stand up in the House of Parliament. No back Bone.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vincemunday » July 9, 2018, 11:40 pm

It's looking increasingly likely Hillary is going to run in 2020, deep joy... Surely she's not that dumb?
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jimjay » July 10, 2018, 12:03 am

Giggle wrote:
July 9, 2018, 7:52 pm
MAGA. America has let too many ----- countries ride on its coattails for far too long.

Looking out for ourselves for a change.

World's Number One country will always have petty, angry, little critics whining about their lot in life.

Tough ****.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jimjay » July 10, 2018, 12:10 am

vincemunday wrote:
July 9, 2018, 11:40 pm
It's looking increasingly likely Hillary is going to run in 2020, deep joy... Surely she's not that dumb?
oh gads I hope not. hasn't that Sea Hag learned yet it's not enough to be allowed into office just because your husband got his jerk polished by an intern?

the clown show continues. sad. John Kerry a better option but no, we'll now have to elect a gay lesbian back transgender lacto ovo vegetarian safe space he-she with a disability and ivy league credentials.

let's just get it over with and let COMRADE XI run things as that's where we're headed.

we can replace the A-10 Warthog with a balsa wood glider.

Oh but wait maybe our SPACE FORCE will save us. More like SPACE FARCE.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » July 10, 2018, 6:55 am

Giggle wrote:
July 9, 2018, 7:52 pm
MAGA. America has let too many ----- countries ride on its coattails for far too long.

Looking out for ourselves for a change.

World's Number One country will always have petty, angry, little critics whining about their lot in life.

Tough ****.
Yep. Tough ****.

Need to call the waaaaaambulance for the crybabies who hate America, but are so concerned about America. That is hilarious.

To all of the hate-America, Obama-lovers out there, I'll remind you of Obama's words to Republicans:
"Elections have consequences, you lost, get over it."

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