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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by stattointhailand » December 24, 2018, 6:47 pm

If "Truth always wins" then Trump will be an ex president before New Year :lol:



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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by jai yen yen » December 24, 2018, 11:37 pm

Lone Star wrote:
December 24, 2018, 7:51 am
jai yen yen wrote:
December 24, 2018, 6:54 am
stattointhailand wrote:
December 23, 2018, 7:32 pm
Just watched the most recent episode of BBC's "Have I got news for you" in which Paul Merton summed up Trumps popularity .......


"His popularity amongst the American population is slowly sinking, even amongst the thickest ones, they're finally getting it"
Paul who?, His opinion, things look and feel differently in the U.S. and Canada from people I talk to.
Paul who? is correct. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Getting news from Paul Merton about the US is like getting news about the UK from Jimmy Kimmel or The Daily Show. BBC? I think that's the UK's version of CNN.

As for Canada, they're starting to call their leader Barack Trudeau.
Yes, I am ashamed to admit I am a Canadian these days. I am kind of hoping for some real warm weather to melt our snowflake P.M.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 25, 2018, 6:58 am

Hey MORON (POTUS) every time you blame the FED for the economy, the market dives. Don't you get it!! O ya you're a MORON.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 26, 2018, 12:20 pm

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Lügenpresse! And thievery!

Der Spiegel in headlines about fake news again!

Richard Grenell, the US Ambassador to Germany, is weighing in now on a fake news story that Relotius wrote about Fergus Falls, Wisconsin.
Spiegel literally fabricated stories saying people (Americans) were racist & xenophobic. They made up events, details, & lies — and no editor checked the stories.

One reporter was able to publish anti-American propaganda for years without an editor or fact-checker?! It’s absurd for them to pretend this is only about one reporter.


Der Spiegel has been exposed numerous times for anti-Trump bias and fake news. They have included depictions of Trump as a jihadi severing the head of the Statue of Liberty.

Lügenpresse!
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vlad » December 26, 2018, 1:23 pm

were on the fake news bandwagon now this will last weeks ffs.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by papafarang » December 26, 2018, 5:44 pm

Lone Star wrote:
December 26, 2018, 12:20 pm
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Lügenpresse! And thievery!

Der Spiegel in headlines about fake news again!

Richard Grenell, the US Ambassador to Germany, is weighing in now on a fake news story that Relotius wrote about Fergus Falls, Wisconsin.
Spiegel literally fabricated stories saying people (Americans) were racist & xenophobic. They made up events, details, & lies — and no editor checked the stories.

One reporter was able to publish anti-American propaganda for years without an editor or fact-checker?! It’s absurd for them to pretend this is only about one reporter.


Der Spiegel has been exposed numerous times for anti-Trump bias and fake news. They have included depictions of Trump as a jihadi severing the head of the Statue of Liberty.

Lügenpresse!
just wondering what exactly this has to do with trump? what no racist in Wisconsin ? "Der Spiegel has been exposed numerous times for anti-Trump bias and fake news". so fox news is un biased :lol: and being anti trump means what exactly... ooh I just been exposed as anti trump .. big deal, as It means anything . what a muppet post
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vlad » December 27, 2018, 1:42 am

Better used to it papa that's all were going to get now on here from the propaganda minister. lies b/s and fake news.

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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 9:36 am

First holiday reports from Mastercard indicate strong consumer spending and high optimism among consumers. So far, spending in the 2018 holiday season shows a 5.1% increase, which translates into $850 BILLION.

That is the strongest holiday increase in spending in six years. Oh wait. That't two years of Trump and Obama's entire second term. But I'm sure that Obama will take credit for this surge too.

And then ... biggest one-day gain in the stock market's history.

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Could there be volatility going forward? Sure, but this is more proof that there are market drivers that affect the stock market. On this day, Main Street and Wall Street were both winners.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 9:42 am

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Trump and Melania both visit the troops in Iraq.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vlad » December 27, 2018, 11:23 am

Cringefactor 10 Pass the sick bucket.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by skinner » December 27, 2018, 12:07 pm

Shame he didn't have the balls to wear a uniform himself.

Heal spurs my hairy ar*e

Steady nonsense.

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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Udon Map » December 27, 2018, 12:20 pm

Makes me start to wonder whether you're actually deceiving yourself, or just spinning everything to support your position.
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First holiday reports from Mastercard indicate strong consumer spending and high optimism among consumers. So far, spending in the 2018 holiday season shows a 5.1% increase, which translates into $850 BILLION.
But if the statistics are coming from MasterCard, this increase could just as easily translate into a huge increase in consumer debt, far from a positive indicator for the economy.
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December 27, 2018, 9:36 am
And then ... biggest one-day gain in the stock market's history.
Well, that, of course, is irrelevant. It's not the absolute point gain, it's the percentage. The higher the market goes, the higher the average daily move will be in points. That's just a function of the math. So, for example, in 1970, when the DJIA closed at 838.92 at the end of the year, obviously there wasn't going to be a thousand point rise in a single day. So stick with the statistic that has actual meaning, the percentage change for the day.

The DJIA (the average that was up more than 1,000 points), was up 4.98% for the day. Good, yes, but hardly the best one day rise in history. Here are just a few of the ones that better December 26, 2018 by more than double:

● October 13, 2008, up 11%
● October 28, 2008, up nearly 11%
● October 21, 1987, up 10.15%

and there are more.

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December 27, 2018, 9:36 am
Could there be volatility going forward? Sure, but this is more proof that there are market drivers that affect the stock market. On this day, Main Street and Wall Street were both winners.
On this day, yes, completely agree. But only time will tell if the roughly 15% decrease in the market in the last three months is merely a correction in a bull market, as you have suggested, or the beginning of a bear market.

And before you go dumping on Obama's performance in this regard, let's not forget that the market has been on a steady uptrend since 2009, a few months into Obama's first term. So performance under Trump was a continuation of a trend which started at the beginning of Obama's first term, that is until a few months ago.

The market has now wiped out all 2018 gains, and is back down to the same level it was at during the first week of October, 2017.

So while your enthusiasm is nice to see, let's stick with the facts as told by the numbers, and not spin things to suit your desired narrative.

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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 12:55 pm

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So while your enthusiasm is nice to see, let's stick with the facts as told by the numbers, and not spin things to suit your desired narrative.
I have reported facts of the day, and my enthusiasm is for that alone.

You have played "what if." As all Trump Haters do.
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 1:00 pm

Udon Map wrote:
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The DJIA (the average that was up more than 1,000 points), was up 4.98% for the day. Good, yes, but hardly the best one day rise in history. Here are just a few of the ones that better December 26, 2018 by more than double:

● October 13, 2008, up 11%
● October 28, 2008, up nearly 11%
● October 21, 1987, up 10.15%

and there are more.
I posted a NUMBER, not a percentage.

You're trying to win an argument I wasn't making ... like another Hater I see here often. What was the NUMERIC rise on those dates you posted? Let's compare numbers to numbers, which is what I posted.
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 1:07 pm

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But if the statistics are coming from MasterCard, this increase could just as easily translate into a huge increase in consumer debt, far from a positive indicator for the economy.
Consumers don't acquire debt during the holidays unless they are optimistic. Go back and look at the greatly reduced spending during the holidays when consumer sentiment was not high.
So while your enthusiasm is nice to see, let's stick with the facts as told by the numbers, and not spin things to suit your desired narrative.
And just exactly what the hell did you do?

1. Insinuated that I did not post facts.

2. Compared percentage increases to numeric increases.

3. Completely ignored the fact that consumers don't automatically spend during the holidays -- debt or not.

You're full of bullshiggity, UM. You're pulling "what ifs" out the air to suit your narrative. Yes, you are.
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 1:15 pm

Largest NUMERIC gains in the US stock market.

TOP FIVE
1 - 2018-12-26 - +1,086.25 FACT
2 - 2008-10-13 - +936.42
3 - 2008-10-28 - +889.35
4 - 2018-03-26 - +669.40
5 - 2015-08-26 - +619.07
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by sometimewoodworker » December 27, 2018, 1:56 pm

Lone Star wrote:
December 27, 2018, 1:15 pm
Largest NUMERIC gains in the US stock market.

TOP FIVE
1 - 2018-12-26 - +1,086.25 FACT
2 - 2008-10-13 - +936.42
3 - 2008-10-28 - +889.35
4 - 2018-03-26 - +669.40
5 - 2015-08-26 - +619.07
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While the number is a fact it isn't impressive as the market is still down 4,000 from October (-15%) and is only a +4% correction of the Trump crash
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 27, 2018, 2:53 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
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. . .

the market is still down 4,000 from October . . .
Duh.
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by newtovillagelife » December 27, 2018, 4:29 pm

If the moron(POTUS) would keep his mouth shut, things might improve.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 27, 2018, 4:33 pm

skinner wrote:
December 27, 2018, 12:07 pm
Shame he didn't have the balls to wear a uniform himself.

Heal spurs my hairy ar*e

Steady nonsense.
He sure had the balls to insult a war hero.What a cowardly loser.

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