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Post by newtovillagelife » August 24, 2019, 11:51 am

“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

Is this statement coming from a socialist(communist) or capitalist???????



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Post by Doodoo » August 24, 2019, 12:07 pm

"Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

Is this statement coming from a socialist(communist) or capitalist???????"


OH I sense a movie coming out soon!!!! will it be in the theme of Quentin Tarantino, Walt Disney(Animated) or my favourite Mel Brooks (It coud be called Donald Trump Men in Tights)

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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 12:48 pm

newtovillagelife wrote:
August 24, 2019, 11:51 am
“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

Is this statement coming from a socialist(communist) or capitalist???????
It's not an enforceable order. It's a warning that China is not a good place to do business with tariffs eliminating the savings they enjoy from less expensive labor.

Businesses have seen escalating trade tensions for at least 18 months. Some have already left China, and others are in various stages of doing so. They should already have a Plan B after 18 months of a deteriorating situation. If not, they stand a good chance of being negatively impacted with risks that they knew existed after choosing to set up shop in a communist country.

Frankly, I'm surprised that all of those LIBs who demonize "greed" so much aren't cheering that these companies are experiencing karma for exploiting cheap labor at the expense of US workers. That's what they always claim. But they're silent now. BECAUSE TRUMP. GET TRUMP.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

So the LIB Thug Mob will forego their assault on corporate America enlisting slave labor (their terms) to focus instead on Trump.
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Post by newtovillagelife » August 24, 2019, 1:20 pm

Lone Star wrote:
August 24, 2019, 12:48 pm
newtovillagelife wrote:
August 24, 2019, 11:51 am
“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

Is this statement coming from a socialist(communist) or capitalist???????
It's not an enforceable order. It's a warning that China is not a good place to do business with tariffs eliminating the savings they enjoy from less expensive labor.

Businesses have seen escalating trade tensions for at least 18 months. Some have already left China, and others are in various stages of doing so. They should already have a Plan B after 18 months of a deteriorating situation. If not, they stand a good chance of being negatively impacted with risks that they knew existed after choosing to set up shop in a communist country.

Frankly, I'm surprised that all of those LIBs who demonize "greed" so much aren't cheering that these companies are experiencing karma for exploiting cheap labor at the expense of US workers. That's what they always claim. But they're silent now. BECAUSE TRUMP. GET TRUMP.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

So the LIB Thug Mob will forego their assault on corporate America enlisting slave labor (their terms) to focus instead on Trump.
You are welcome to your opinion, and that is all it is LS. You are not qualified to parse the POTUS statements, we all know he meant what he said, and wished he had, or more likely, believes he has the authority to implement it.

And those companies leaving China are going elsewhere in ASIA......Americans still want the lowest prices..whatever the cost to US workers.

And of course as you know 20% of US manufacturing jobs have been lost to international trade, but 80% to automation.....Seems like the real problem is being avoided.....maybe Trump is too dumb to understand.

And lastly what is being done about the real problem with China, its theft of intellectual property???

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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:08 pm

newtovillagelife wrote:
August 24, 2019, 1:20 pm
You are welcome to your opinion, and that is all it is LS. You are not qualified to parse the POTUS statements, we all know he meant what he said, and wished he had, or more likely, believes he has the authority to implement it.
However, my opinion is based on facts.

- It's not an enforceable order
- tariffs are eliminating the savings business enjoyed through less expensive labor.
- trade tensions have escalated for 18 months
- Some businesses have already left China
- Other businesses are in various stages of leaving China
- the situation in China is deteriorating
- Businesses that remain will be negatively impacted
- LIBs demonize "greed" and attack corporations for leaving the US, but now they're silent (In fact, you are one who always likes to play the "greed" card.)

But let's examine your contradictory claim: You say there's no way that I know what Trump meant by his statement (even though I never claimed to know what he meant), BUT YOU SAY "we all know he meant what he said." Yeah. I get it. YOU know what he meant. Really?
And those companies leaving China are going elsewhere in ASIA......Americans still want the lowest prices..whatever the cost to US workers.
The goal is to pressure China. Being anywhere except China achieves the goal of applying more pressure. There's nothing that indicates that Americans want low prices at the expense of US workers. All Americans want better value in their purchasing, but they also want Americans to be gainfully employed. Americans understand that American jobs are in everyone's best interest. In fact, consumers buying MORE American-made products and services during this time proves otherwise. It's exactly why Main Street has not been impacted and inflation has not occurred.
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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:10 pm

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The only two challengers in recent presidential elections who were able to unseat an incumbent president running for re-election were Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton. Reagan won in a landslide over Carter. Clinton was helped by the vote-split efforts of Ross Perot in defeating GHWB 41. Not many know it, but Clinton didn't have the majority of the popular vote in either of his elections. He had a plurality due to the vote being split by 3rd party candidates.

Those two challengers who beat incumbents running for re-election had a groundswell of support and enthusiasm that not one 2020 Democrat candidate displays -- and Democrats know it. Inspiration, positive message for Main Street, uplifting and enthusiastic? None of 'em.

Biden is leading the Democrat polls, but he is increasingly looking like the default candidate to keep the whole Democrat party from going Left.
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Post by papafarang » August 24, 2019, 2:17 pm

seems Donald "jesus" trump is off his meds lately, and loner thinks the rest of the world is going to ditch access to cheap goods and buy expensive American goods, dream on...oh again loner turning it into a "Libs" thing even though no one knows what a LIB is ,i'm guessing it must be anyone that is not extreme right wing :roll:
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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:20 pm

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The Democrat National Committee is struggling to raise money. The DNC lags far behind Republicans, and just in June 2019, Republicans outdid them by almost 200% in the amount of millions of dollars ($8 million vs almost $21 million).

The DNC is now going into Mexico to raise money. Three fundraisers are planned in Mexico among expats who live there.

Donors will be required to prove US citizenship in order to comply with federal campaign laws.
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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:23 pm



Black Americans praise Trump and rip into Obama -- in their own words.
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Post by Doodoo » August 24, 2019, 2:36 pm

"It's not an enforceable order."
If his word isnt as you say "Enforceable" then why beleive anything from those lips of his???? I am Great, You love Me, See how I Glow etc
You cant and that it what we have been saying.
You just ackowledged our months and months of explaining to you that he is The Chosen One for sure its just that we can't figure out what he has been chosen for?????

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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:42 pm

"It's not an enforceable order."
If his word isnt as you say "Enforceable" then why beleive anything from those lips of his???? I am Great, You love Me, See how I Glow etc
You cant and that it what we have been saying.
You just ackowledged our months and months of explaining to you that he is The Chosen One for sure its just that we can't figure out what he has been chosen for?????
That person who always feels a need "to say something." Anything. Just "to say something."

Incoherent as usual.
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Post by Doodoo » August 24, 2019, 2:48 pm

Donny T appears to have made his point ENFORCEABLE

"But at midnight, as he was flying to France, the president tweeted again, saying that those who “don’t have a clue” about presidential powers should look at the Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977. He added, “Case closed!”

The law says the president is authorized “to regulate international commerce after declaring a national emergency” if there is an “extraordinary threat” to the nation."

Hopefully that is as coherent as one can get for those who need carity

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Post by Lone Star » August 24, 2019, 2:49 pm

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Trump looking to cut $4.3 billion in foreign aid.

The funds were appropriated, but not spent. The majority is from the US Department of State and would limit the amount that the UN would receive.

The package of cuts will be sent to the Congress next week, and there will be a 45 day period for Congress to approve the cuts. The funds will be frozen during that time period. Because there are less than 45 days remaining in the fiscal year, the funds will probably be cut anyway.
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Post by thaiguzzi » August 24, 2019, 3:12 pm

papafarang wrote:
August 24, 2019, 2:17 pm
seems Donald "jesus" trump is off his meds lately, and loner thinks the rest of the world is going to ditch access to cheap goods and buy expensive American goods, dream on...oh again loner turning it into a "Libs" thing even though no one knows what a LIB is ,i'm guessing it must be anyone that is not extreme right wing :roll:
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Post by Doodoo » August 24, 2019, 5:23 pm

Has anyone heard if Mr T will get the Chinese companies out of the USA?
One company is Fuyao Glass in Dayton Ohio and another is GE Appliances along with AMC

After all Donny did say "We dont need the Chinese"

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Post by vlad » August 24, 2019, 8:43 pm

He is now upsetting the French saying if France puts Tariffs on importing french wines to America her will put tariffs on American goods imported to France. Bully Boy Tactics soon most country's will turn on him.

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Post by GT93 » August 25, 2019, 4:19 am

Trump starts and finishes the week off his meds. What a goose.

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Post by GT93 » August 25, 2019, 4:22 am

newtovillagelife wrote:
August 24, 2019, 11:51 am
“Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.”

Is this statement coming from a socialist(communist) or capitalist???????
It's socialism on steroids when politicians are dictating how economic agents are to conduct their own affairs. There's a dumbarse commie in the White House. He's all over the place.

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Post by Lone Star » August 25, 2019, 6:07 am

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Another shocking poll that shows a positive result for Trump.

Monmouth University poll shows that 59% of Americans are against impeaching Trump. That's actually LOWER than the percentage in Congress who want Trump impeached. Approximately 75% of Congress is against impeaching Trump.

Among Independents in the poll, the group that decides elections, the numbers were higher. 61% of Independents are against impeaching Trump.

I didn't look at the rest of the poll. It's not news when polls are negative for Trump, and I would bet money that it was also true in this poll.
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Post by Lone Star » August 25, 2019, 6:13 am

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Bill Maher, a die-hard LIB, is making a habit of attacking the Democrats running for POTUS.

On his show "Real Time," Maher professed a personal liking of Gramma Lizzie Warren, but admitted that her ideas are so far to the left that she'd be as successful as George McGovern was running for president -- landslide loss. Maher also echoed predictions of analysts that with Gramma Lizzie in the general election, the Democrats would lose at least 40 states.

Maher:
“Americans don’t think that the economy that works for them is called socialism."
There are many things with which I disagree with Maher, but he is being a realist when it comes to this election. He hates Trump, but he realizes that the 2020 election is shaping up to be a disaster for Democrats because of their weak candidates.
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