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As I predicted -- a parade of whistleblowers begins -- a la Kavanaugh's accuser parade.
This Ukraine Hoax is a combination MO of both the Russia Hoax and Kavanaugh.
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The really great thing about making up conspiracies like that without any evidence of it, is that it can just as easily be exactly what we saw and heard and straight from Mr. Okereke's heart. In fact, his emotional pause during his speech indicated to me that it was precisely from his heart.Mr. Okereke is one person, who, by using the precise language of President Trump, at least raises the question of whether or not he was coached on what to say. For example, I have my doubts about whether he knew before he arrived at the White House that the black unemployment rate is historically low.
Mr. Okereke wouldn't be the first one to repeat a thank you for saving America, applauding Trump going after the fake media, imploring Trump to build the wall, or calling for immigrants to come legally. Okereke is a legal immigrant himself, and his words reflect what many say and believe: "Get in line and come legally like I did."
AMERICA: One of the Greatest Stories Ever Told.
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Oh my.
Two new polls from USA Today (42% to 21%) and Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP (57% to 37%) show that Americans support investigating the Bidens in Ukraine and China.
Even though Biden WAS the only "moderate" on the Democrat side with any chance at the nomination, he kept lurching left to attract the socialist/communist base. But that's not good news either for Democrats. A NY Times article about a poll conducted by MIT researcher Alexander Agadjanian shows that Independents -- the electorate that usually decides national elections -- are against decriminalizing illegal immigration, against free health care to illegals, against the ending of private health care, against providing free college.
Agadjanian found in his survey of 4,000 voters that Independents are less likely to vote Democrat when the respondent learns of the Democrat policy proposals. The research also indicated that the Democrat proposals also negatively affected any mobilization to vote. Even Democrats polled on the Leftist positions of the candidates showed no increased motivation to vote and campaign for any of the eventual nominees. In other words, the Leftist policies are an election killer.
Those polls aren't alone in their bad news for Democrats. The last Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll indicated that the most unpopular position of Democrats so far is free, taxpayer-funded healthcare to all illegal aliens living in the US. Biden, Sanders and Warren have been the most outspoken about it, but was endorsed by the majority of the other candidates.
And don't forget one of the biggest kickers of them all: Democrats want to raise taxes on the working class and middle class Americans to pay for "Medicare for All" that will destroy the program and eliminate private health insurance. This stunt has alienated older voters and also labor union workers who have health care plans through their employers.
Yes, Democrats MUST IMPEACH TRUMP, or he will win again with the "America First" doctrine.
Oh my.
Two new polls from USA Today (42% to 21%) and Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP (57% to 37%) show that Americans support investigating the Bidens in Ukraine and China.
Even though Biden WAS the only "moderate" on the Democrat side with any chance at the nomination, he kept lurching left to attract the socialist/communist base. But that's not good news either for Democrats. A NY Times article about a poll conducted by MIT researcher Alexander Agadjanian shows that Independents -- the electorate that usually decides national elections -- are against decriminalizing illegal immigration, against free health care to illegals, against the ending of private health care, against providing free college.
Agadjanian found in his survey of 4,000 voters that Independents are less likely to vote Democrat when the respondent learns of the Democrat policy proposals. The research also indicated that the Democrat proposals also negatively affected any mobilization to vote. Even Democrats polled on the Leftist positions of the candidates showed no increased motivation to vote and campaign for any of the eventual nominees. In other words, the Leftist policies are an election killer.
Those polls aren't alone in their bad news for Democrats. The last Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll indicated that the most unpopular position of Democrats so far is free, taxpayer-funded healthcare to all illegal aliens living in the US. Biden, Sanders and Warren have been the most outspoken about it, but was endorsed by the majority of the other candidates.
And don't forget one of the biggest kickers of them all: Democrats want to raise taxes on the working class and middle class Americans to pay for "Medicare for All" that will destroy the program and eliminate private health insurance. This stunt has alienated older voters and also labor union workers who have health care plans through their employers.
Yes, Democrats MUST IMPEACH TRUMP, or he will win again with the "America First" doctrine.
AMERICA: One of the Greatest Stories Ever Told.
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Yes. This article is long; but I found it interesting in that it solves some who-done-it political mysteries.
"HAVE WE SEEN THIS BEFORE? As it is known, the “Russiagate” is closed. However, it is not just closed. It ended with a deafening failure of the American intelligence services, which in 2016 were getting help from Russian, Ukrainian, Australian, British, Estonian, Czech, and Italian intelligence services. At this point, we must make a reservation: all these intelligence services worked exclusively against Trump, and only one of them, Russia, worked against both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. The proof is a new dirty business—instead of failed Russiagate, Washington is seething today with Ukrainegate. Of course, Ukrainegate was born just because of the botched Russiagate.
At first glance, both pseudo-scandals, Russiagate and Ukrainegate, have nothing in common. However, they have the same origins: Hillary Clinton.
Let us recall that during the 2008 election campaign, the main opponent of Hillary Clinton was her Democratic Party comrade, then-leader of the ratings, Barack Obama. And then suddenly, there was an assertion that Obama was allegedly born, not in America, but in Kenya (which would have immediately disqualified him from the White House bid). As we now know, this fake out was fabricated by Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
In the 2016 election campaign, Donald Trump was the main opponent of Hillary Clinton. And then suddenly, everyone was talking about an accusation that Trump was allegedly Putin’s puppet, so Russiagate was born. As we now know, this fake news was also made-up (and paid for) by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. The bulk of dirty material for the “Russian dossier” on Trump was a clever dump of disinformation by Russian intelligence services.
At this stage of the 2020 election campaign, Hillary Clinton’s main adversary is her ideological comrade and current rating leader, former Vice President Joe Biden. No wonder we suddenly obtain information that Biden’s son Hunter was involved in some kind of dirty business in Ukraine. Consequently, both Biden and his son, Hunter, are mentioned in this piece of the information warfare somewhat tangentially, and the case is presented so that it is Trump, not Biden, who is involved in some kind of dirty affairs in Ukraine.
THE MACHIAVELLIAN PLOT
This is put together as a devilishly twisted plot, a correctly set smokescreen, and a stunning Machiavellian directness, exactly as the Clinton clan always does. We must pay tribute to the political strategists of Hillary Clinton: make your move based on factual events in Ukraine without being distracted by secondary goals, then concentrate all your efforts in the direction of the main blow.
Hunter Biden was a member of the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas production company Burisma from May 2014 to April 2019. He was hired to work in the international arena. But Ukrainian laws prohibit the export of natural gas produced in the country, and Ukrainian gas must be supplied only to the domestic market. Therefore, under no circumstances could Hunter Biden promote Ukrainian gas to the international markets.
Hunter Biden’s responsibilities included attending corporate board meetings once, at most twice a year. At first glance, Hunter Biden was engaged in the company Burisma for no compensation; however he received 50 thousand dollars a month for this. Everyone should understand that this money is nothing more than a primitive corruption scheme that allowed the Ukrainian authorities to go directly to the American vice president. But why the vice president of the United States, and not someone else in the Obama administration? To answer this question, we turn to history.
THREE GENERATIONS OF SOVIET SYMPATHIZERS
Who was the patron of the young Joe Biden? Who brought him into big politics? This person was Senator Albert Gore, Sr., father of the future Vice President Al Gore. And who was the patron of Senator Gore himself, who brought him into the big league of American politics? None other than the notorious Armand Hammer, an American billionaire, the owner of the oil company Occidental Petroleum, a Soviet spy, and a man who spent more time with Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin than any other foreigner. Lenin’s sympathy for Armand Hammer was based, in part, on the fact that he knew his father well, the American Communist Julius Hammer, whom he met at the Congress of the 2nd International.
The ideological continuity of three generations of American left-wing politicians is a serious matter. Armand Hammer, Senator Gore (and then Gore Jr.), and Joe Biden have always been supporters of both the Soviet Union and all the foreign policy initiatives of the Soviet Politburo. Biden strongly opposed Ronald Reagan’s initiatives to combat Soviet expansionism. He was an ardent critic of the Strategic Defense Initiative. In the Obama administration, Joe Biden played the role of liaison between the post-socialist fragments of the former USSR and the US, just as Armand Hammer served as a liaison between the Soviet and American Communists.
In Ukraine, Joe Biden played the role of a patron, and this role was played by him easily. In fact, after the collapse of the USSR, in Ukraine, as well as in neighboring Russia, all people who came to power had undergone impressive communist training in their youth.
Almost everyone who opposed Trump and helped Hillary Clinton in 2016 was, to one degree or another, adherent of the leftist ideology. For example, Nellie Ohr, a key figure in Russiagate and the wife of the former associate deputy attorney general under Obama, is a well-known American Stalinist. Her Ph.D. dissertation dealt with Stalin’s collectivization, where she made an attempt to justify the Stalin-initiated deliberate Ukrainian famine, known as Holodomor.
CLINTONISTAS IN UKRAINE
We cannot pinpoint the exact date that former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was recruited into the ranks of the Clintonistas. Most likely, this happened during the period 2009-2010, when both Petro Poroshenko and Hillary Clinton held the posts of Foreign ministers in Ukraine and the US, respectively.
The mistake of Petro Poroshenko was not that he worked closely with the American administration. Petro Poroshenko’s mistake was that he enthusiastically collaborated with the openly anti-American administration of American President Barack Hussein Obama, and Joe Biden had been an integral part of his anti-American White House for eight years.
The Obama administration sent large amounts of American taxpayer money to corrupt Ukrainian leaders. These leaders quickly found a way to send most of these funds back to the Clinton Foundation. In fact, the Clinton Foundation was created as a conduit for exactly such avenue of campaign financing. The Obama administration exerted serious political pressure on European leaders, who in the end, also began to allocate money to Ukraine.
Most of these funds were returned to America through various charitable and political foundations of Democrats. As a result, neither the Ukrainian nor the American people received any practical benefit—all the so-called humanitarian and military assistance to Ukraine was simply a mechanism for financing the Democratic Party at the expense of American and European taxpayers.
TRUMP AND ZELENSKY
It was destined that Hillary Clinton would lose the 2016 election, and currently at the helm of the American administration is the exact opposite. Pro-American President Donald Trump, who, as it is known, can be very vindictive. He remembers the participation of the Ukrainian authorities on the side of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 elections, and the new President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky will have to make a lot of truly titanic efforts to “melt the ice” in the US-Ukrainian relations. A lesson for all politicians here—it is not only possible, but necessary to cooperate with American presidents, but only if an American president does not take an anti-American position.
Trump however, handed Zelensky a lifesaver. The fact is that in parallel with the Russiagate investigation by the Special Counsel and Mueller, the Department of Justice has long been investigating the origins of this failed palace coup.
The chronology of the latest key developments is as follows: in April 2019, Mueller’s report was released, but Hillary Clinton supporters once again did not accept the obvious defeat. Democrats pinned their last hopes on Mueller’s hearings in the Congress, but Mueller’s testimony on July 24, 2019, had crossed all t’s. There was no collusion between Trump and Putin. The next day, on July 25, a telephone conversation took place between Trump and Zelensky, in which Trump did not just ask, but demanded the help of the current Ukrainian authorities in investigating the role that the previous Ukrainian government played in the 2016 elections.
The basis for this was the treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, adopted by the governments of the United States and Ukraine in 1999. Under this Treaty, countries undertake to assist each other in the investigation of criminal offenses. An investigation by federal prosecutors has uncovered the footsteps of the failed palace coup that lead from Obama, Clintons, and Biden to the United Kingdom, Italy, Ukraine, and Australia. The current authorities of Australia and Italy are already actively helping in the investigation, and Trump demanded the same from Ukraine.
THE DEEP STATE IS IN DEEP TROUBLE
No wonder the Deep State has a headache. Clintonistas realized that they were not only on the verge of being publicly exposed, but also on the verge of prosecution. To neutralize the inevitable failure, they decided to try to hit two targets with one bullet. First, hit Biden as the main opponent of Hillary Clinton in the 2020 primaries, and second, hit Trump as the main opponent of Hillary Clinton in the 2020 general elections. So, an unknown “whistleblower” appeared, who proposed his own strike, convenient for the Clintonistas interpretation of the telephone conversation between Trump and Zelensky. According to the whistleblower’s complaint, Trump allegedly demanded that Zelensky unearth dirt on Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election.
However, Hillary Clinton supporters, imbedded in the Trump administration, acted in an old-fashioned way and in an unforgivable hurry. For some reason, they forgot that now it is Trump’s people who are at the helm in most of the government agencies. As a result, both the whistleblower’s complaint, and the entirely new pseudo-scandal, Ukrainegate, were put on hold. They were detained in the bowels of the Washington bureaucracy for about a month. In other words, the Ukrainegate conspirators in 2019 do not even remotely have the resources that they possessed in 2016 when Russiagate was invented.
This allowed Trump not only to get acquainted in advance with the next palace coup attempt, but also to develop a strategy for suppressing it in advance, even before the conspirators had the opportunity to act.
As a result, Trump’s counterattacks rained down quickly, efficiently, and mercilessly. All documents in the new case were promptly declassified and made public. The Trump opponents did not anticipate that. They hoped that the new scandal would help them to continue the political circus until November 2020, but they were mistaken. Since the publication of Ukrainegate documents, Trump’s rating has grown, and money to the Trump campaign and the Republican Party not only poured in, but also broke all the records.
The Ukrainegate began to fall apart right after its launch. If the history of the Clinton clan teaches us anything, then an American of Ukrainian descent, Alexandra Chalupa, who was the liaison between the Ukrainian embassy in Washington and the DNC in 2016, should pay attention to the list of unexplained deaths linked to the Clintonistas, and start worrying about her life. It seems that they collected all remaining materials at hand in Washington and made a gigantic political rake out of them, which the Democrats predictably stepped on, a second time."
https://newrightnetwork.com/2019/10/hil ... tion.html/
"HAVE WE SEEN THIS BEFORE? As it is known, the “Russiagate” is closed. However, it is not just closed. It ended with a deafening failure of the American intelligence services, which in 2016 were getting help from Russian, Ukrainian, Australian, British, Estonian, Czech, and Italian intelligence services. At this point, we must make a reservation: all these intelligence services worked exclusively against Trump, and only one of them, Russia, worked against both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. The proof is a new dirty business—instead of failed Russiagate, Washington is seething today with Ukrainegate. Of course, Ukrainegate was born just because of the botched Russiagate.
At first glance, both pseudo-scandals, Russiagate and Ukrainegate, have nothing in common. However, they have the same origins: Hillary Clinton.
Let us recall that during the 2008 election campaign, the main opponent of Hillary Clinton was her Democratic Party comrade, then-leader of the ratings, Barack Obama. And then suddenly, there was an assertion that Obama was allegedly born, not in America, but in Kenya (which would have immediately disqualified him from the White House bid). As we now know, this fake out was fabricated by Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
In the 2016 election campaign, Donald Trump was the main opponent of Hillary Clinton. And then suddenly, everyone was talking about an accusation that Trump was allegedly Putin’s puppet, so Russiagate was born. As we now know, this fake news was also made-up (and paid for) by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. The bulk of dirty material for the “Russian dossier” on Trump was a clever dump of disinformation by Russian intelligence services.
At this stage of the 2020 election campaign, Hillary Clinton’s main adversary is her ideological comrade and current rating leader, former Vice President Joe Biden. No wonder we suddenly obtain information that Biden’s son Hunter was involved in some kind of dirty business in Ukraine. Consequently, both Biden and his son, Hunter, are mentioned in this piece of the information warfare somewhat tangentially, and the case is presented so that it is Trump, not Biden, who is involved in some kind of dirty affairs in Ukraine.
THE MACHIAVELLIAN PLOT
This is put together as a devilishly twisted plot, a correctly set smokescreen, and a stunning Machiavellian directness, exactly as the Clinton clan always does. We must pay tribute to the political strategists of Hillary Clinton: make your move based on factual events in Ukraine without being distracted by secondary goals, then concentrate all your efforts in the direction of the main blow.
Hunter Biden was a member of the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas production company Burisma from May 2014 to April 2019. He was hired to work in the international arena. But Ukrainian laws prohibit the export of natural gas produced in the country, and Ukrainian gas must be supplied only to the domestic market. Therefore, under no circumstances could Hunter Biden promote Ukrainian gas to the international markets.
Hunter Biden’s responsibilities included attending corporate board meetings once, at most twice a year. At first glance, Hunter Biden was engaged in the company Burisma for no compensation; however he received 50 thousand dollars a month for this. Everyone should understand that this money is nothing more than a primitive corruption scheme that allowed the Ukrainian authorities to go directly to the American vice president. But why the vice president of the United States, and not someone else in the Obama administration? To answer this question, we turn to history.
THREE GENERATIONS OF SOVIET SYMPATHIZERS
Who was the patron of the young Joe Biden? Who brought him into big politics? This person was Senator Albert Gore, Sr., father of the future Vice President Al Gore. And who was the patron of Senator Gore himself, who brought him into the big league of American politics? None other than the notorious Armand Hammer, an American billionaire, the owner of the oil company Occidental Petroleum, a Soviet spy, and a man who spent more time with Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin than any other foreigner. Lenin’s sympathy for Armand Hammer was based, in part, on the fact that he knew his father well, the American Communist Julius Hammer, whom he met at the Congress of the 2nd International.
The ideological continuity of three generations of American left-wing politicians is a serious matter. Armand Hammer, Senator Gore (and then Gore Jr.), and Joe Biden have always been supporters of both the Soviet Union and all the foreign policy initiatives of the Soviet Politburo. Biden strongly opposed Ronald Reagan’s initiatives to combat Soviet expansionism. He was an ardent critic of the Strategic Defense Initiative. In the Obama administration, Joe Biden played the role of liaison between the post-socialist fragments of the former USSR and the US, just as Armand Hammer served as a liaison between the Soviet and American Communists.
In Ukraine, Joe Biden played the role of a patron, and this role was played by him easily. In fact, after the collapse of the USSR, in Ukraine, as well as in neighboring Russia, all people who came to power had undergone impressive communist training in their youth.
Almost everyone who opposed Trump and helped Hillary Clinton in 2016 was, to one degree or another, adherent of the leftist ideology. For example, Nellie Ohr, a key figure in Russiagate and the wife of the former associate deputy attorney general under Obama, is a well-known American Stalinist. Her Ph.D. dissertation dealt with Stalin’s collectivization, where she made an attempt to justify the Stalin-initiated deliberate Ukrainian famine, known as Holodomor.
CLINTONISTAS IN UKRAINE
We cannot pinpoint the exact date that former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was recruited into the ranks of the Clintonistas. Most likely, this happened during the period 2009-2010, when both Petro Poroshenko and Hillary Clinton held the posts of Foreign ministers in Ukraine and the US, respectively.
The mistake of Petro Poroshenko was not that he worked closely with the American administration. Petro Poroshenko’s mistake was that he enthusiastically collaborated with the openly anti-American administration of American President Barack Hussein Obama, and Joe Biden had been an integral part of his anti-American White House for eight years.
The Obama administration sent large amounts of American taxpayer money to corrupt Ukrainian leaders. These leaders quickly found a way to send most of these funds back to the Clinton Foundation. In fact, the Clinton Foundation was created as a conduit for exactly such avenue of campaign financing. The Obama administration exerted serious political pressure on European leaders, who in the end, also began to allocate money to Ukraine.
Most of these funds were returned to America through various charitable and political foundations of Democrats. As a result, neither the Ukrainian nor the American people received any practical benefit—all the so-called humanitarian and military assistance to Ukraine was simply a mechanism for financing the Democratic Party at the expense of American and European taxpayers.
TRUMP AND ZELENSKY
It was destined that Hillary Clinton would lose the 2016 election, and currently at the helm of the American administration is the exact opposite. Pro-American President Donald Trump, who, as it is known, can be very vindictive. He remembers the participation of the Ukrainian authorities on the side of Hillary Clinton in the 2016 elections, and the new President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky will have to make a lot of truly titanic efforts to “melt the ice” in the US-Ukrainian relations. A lesson for all politicians here—it is not only possible, but necessary to cooperate with American presidents, but only if an American president does not take an anti-American position.
Trump however, handed Zelensky a lifesaver. The fact is that in parallel with the Russiagate investigation by the Special Counsel and Mueller, the Department of Justice has long been investigating the origins of this failed palace coup.
The chronology of the latest key developments is as follows: in April 2019, Mueller’s report was released, but Hillary Clinton supporters once again did not accept the obvious defeat. Democrats pinned their last hopes on Mueller’s hearings in the Congress, but Mueller’s testimony on July 24, 2019, had crossed all t’s. There was no collusion between Trump and Putin. The next day, on July 25, a telephone conversation took place between Trump and Zelensky, in which Trump did not just ask, but demanded the help of the current Ukrainian authorities in investigating the role that the previous Ukrainian government played in the 2016 elections.
The basis for this was the treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters, adopted by the governments of the United States and Ukraine in 1999. Under this Treaty, countries undertake to assist each other in the investigation of criminal offenses. An investigation by federal prosecutors has uncovered the footsteps of the failed palace coup that lead from Obama, Clintons, and Biden to the United Kingdom, Italy, Ukraine, and Australia. The current authorities of Australia and Italy are already actively helping in the investigation, and Trump demanded the same from Ukraine.
THE DEEP STATE IS IN DEEP TROUBLE
No wonder the Deep State has a headache. Clintonistas realized that they were not only on the verge of being publicly exposed, but also on the verge of prosecution. To neutralize the inevitable failure, they decided to try to hit two targets with one bullet. First, hit Biden as the main opponent of Hillary Clinton in the 2020 primaries, and second, hit Trump as the main opponent of Hillary Clinton in the 2020 general elections. So, an unknown “whistleblower” appeared, who proposed his own strike, convenient for the Clintonistas interpretation of the telephone conversation between Trump and Zelensky. According to the whistleblower’s complaint, Trump allegedly demanded that Zelensky unearth dirt on Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election.
However, Hillary Clinton supporters, imbedded in the Trump administration, acted in an old-fashioned way and in an unforgivable hurry. For some reason, they forgot that now it is Trump’s people who are at the helm in most of the government agencies. As a result, both the whistleblower’s complaint, and the entirely new pseudo-scandal, Ukrainegate, were put on hold. They were detained in the bowels of the Washington bureaucracy for about a month. In other words, the Ukrainegate conspirators in 2019 do not even remotely have the resources that they possessed in 2016 when Russiagate was invented.
This allowed Trump not only to get acquainted in advance with the next palace coup attempt, but also to develop a strategy for suppressing it in advance, even before the conspirators had the opportunity to act.
As a result, Trump’s counterattacks rained down quickly, efficiently, and mercilessly. All documents in the new case were promptly declassified and made public. The Trump opponents did not anticipate that. They hoped that the new scandal would help them to continue the political circus until November 2020, but they were mistaken. Since the publication of Ukrainegate documents, Trump’s rating has grown, and money to the Trump campaign and the Republican Party not only poured in, but also broke all the records.
The Ukrainegate began to fall apart right after its launch. If the history of the Clinton clan teaches us anything, then an American of Ukrainian descent, Alexandra Chalupa, who was the liaison between the Ukrainian embassy in Washington and the DNC in 2016, should pay attention to the list of unexplained deaths linked to the Clintonistas, and start worrying about her life. It seems that they collected all remaining materials at hand in Washington and made a gigantic political rake out of them, which the Democrats predictably stepped on, a second time."
https://newrightnetwork.com/2019/10/hil ... tion.html/
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Lone Star wrote: ↑October 6, 2019, 1:48 pm
Legal immigrant and US Army service member, Ben Okereke.
“Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. And thank you, Charlie Kirk.
"First of all, Mr. President, we would like to thank you for everything that you’ve done for the African American community so far. We thank you for criminal justice reform. We thank you for the lowest black unemployment rate in this country, sir.
“And finally, most importantly, sir, thank you for saving America and thank you.
“Finally, sir, thank you for taking down the fake news media, sir.
“Finally, we want you to build a wall, sir,” Okereke concluded. “Frankly, because we don’t oppose immigration, but we oppose — but we oppose illegal immigration. So we want you to come to this country legally, if you’re going to come to this country.”
That damn racist Trump.
STEADY WINNING.
Did I miss the part where it identifies Ben as a Black Conservative Cameroonian-American and that stage was set as part of the White House's Young Black Leadership Summit 2019? Clearly no political bias in his statements.
*didn't watch the video, so maybe that info was contained there.
Lone Star your post makes it seem like a random black legal immigrant / service member (ex-service member , did 4 years in the Army) with no political agenda made positive statements about Mr. Trump.
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I just love all of these conspiracies created by the GET TRUMP crowd with political agendas.Did I miss the part where it identifies Ben as a Black Conservative Cameroonian-American and that stage was set as part of the White House's Young Black Leadership Summit 2019? Clearly no political bias in his statements.
*didn't watch the video, so maybe that info was contained there.
Lone Star your post makes it seem like a random black legal immigrant / service member (ex-service member , did 4 years in the Army) with no political agenda made positive statements about Mr. Trump.
Everyone at that Young Black Leadership Summit was a guest of the White House. Common sense would indicate that most, if not all of those in attendance, are supporters of Trump and his re-election. That should be obvious to everyone with reasonable analytical skills. Those young Black Leaders weren't forced there. They accepted an invitation to attend. Racist Hitlers don't invite those sort of people to the White House.
Trump's entire speech (that included Mr. Okereke's short speech) was provided earlier in this thread. So yes, as you correctly stated, you must have missed it.
I've noticed that this is your third non-participatory participation even though you claimed initially of your disinterest in debate.
Then you decided that you didn't believe some poll information because it was biased and ADMITTING NO PROOF.you have to love Lone Star's play with words, facts and laws.
do admire your dedication to Trump.
you (Lone Star) I assume are a fairly educated person, so won't post any follow up to this.......you know what i mean.
it's not that i'm scared of a debate........i just have a few friends similar to you that have drunk the koolaid and have lost all aaaalllllllllllll perspective.
And now this conspiracy regarding Mr. Okereke.
Your history makes me think that this is just some knit-picking trolling expedition. Anyone can automatically discount someone or something based on an affiliation. It would be a good idea, if you're actually going to try to participate in a discussion, to provide some facts to go along with your attacks -- whether the attacks are against me for supporting Trump or against the specific content. If you're going to accuse me of "playing with facts and words and laws," it's probably time for you to outline it. Anyone can make an accusation without proof. There is a continuous whining and crying on this forum about the way that I respond to posts. Your post quoted above is a perfect example of why I am justified in responding in the way that I do. You bring nothing.
This makes three times -- without any proof or facts to back up anything -- that you make a similar tired claim. It is now crystal clear that you think anything that shows Trump in a positive light is biased. You also think that anyone who supports Trump has been drinking the kool aid.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if some random and admittedly unproven attack is all you've got, we can all rest assured that it'll be the same for every post regarding Trump. I get it.
In the future, I will save you some time. I will add a footnote to every post that is positive of Trump, that you reject it as biased. That way it can all be handled quickly and painlessly.
AMERICA: One of the Greatest Stories Ever Told.
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Excellent analysis.TJ wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 9:47 am. . .
As a result, Trump’s counterattacks rained down quickly, efficiently, and mercilessly. All documents in the new case were promptly declassified and made public. The Trump opponents did not anticipate that. They hoped that the new scandal would help them to continue the political circus until November 2020, but they were mistaken. Since the publication of Ukrainegate documents, Trump’s rating has grown, and money to the Trump campaign and the Republican Party not only poured in, but also broke all the records.
. . .
The "new" strategy, because there are no crimes in the Democrat Stalinesque search for crimes, the Democrats are now hoping they can weave multiple obstruction charges against Trump's administration and use those to impeach. Obstruction for not turning over documents -- even though no vote has been taken for an Impeachment Inquiry.
However, the Democrats have never held a customary vote for an Impeachment Inquiry because Pelosi wants to give cover to her members in Trump districts. The other issue with all of this is that the "wrong" committee is handling the phony inquiry because Nadler in the Judiciary Committee is an idiot. Schiff lies better.
Why is the vote for Impeachment Inquiry necessary? Because it insures due process. Democrats AND Republicans may call witnesses and have all of the SAME authority afforded in the hearing. The way it is being conducted now means that Republicans have no say in what witnesses are called or what transpires, since Democrats have the majority on every committee in the House.
The only way the Republicans can fight back against this is for the Judiciary Committee in the Senate, controlled by Republicans, to start calling witnesses for public hearings.
I am beginning to sense another situation where Democrats will prove that they are indeed the undisputed Champions of Unintended Consequences.
AMERICA: One of the Greatest Stories Ever Told.
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.
Politico article drops another BOMB on Democrats.
Democrat Rep. Sean Casten of Illinois held six town hall events in his Trump district. Casten is one of those Democrats who won a seat in the midterms against a Republican.
Sean is finding out several things that indicate some bad news for Democrats.
- his constituents do not like impeachment
- his constituents support Trump criticizing Biden
- his constituents don't want him supporting Pelosi's push for impeachment
- his constituents wore MAGA hats to his town hall events along with Trump 2020 t-shirts
- his constituents focused more on public policy (even the LIBs who attended)
One smart a55 asked Rep. Casten why he wasn't condemning Biden's actions. Ooooops.
The Republican candidate for Casten's seat is Jeanne Ives. She ran for governor in the 2018 election, so her name recognition is very high.
Politico article drops another BOMB on Democrats.
Democrat Rep. Sean Casten of Illinois held six town hall events in his Trump district. Casten is one of those Democrats who won a seat in the midterms against a Republican.
Sean is finding out several things that indicate some bad news for Democrats.
- his constituents do not like impeachment
- his constituents support Trump criticizing Biden
- his constituents don't want him supporting Pelosi's push for impeachment
- his constituents wore MAGA hats to his town hall events along with Trump 2020 t-shirts
- his constituents focused more on public policy (even the LIBs who attended)
One smart a55 asked Rep. Casten why he wasn't condemning Biden's actions. Ooooops.
The Republican candidate for Casten's seat is Jeanne Ives. She ran for governor in the 2018 election, so her name recognition is very high.
AMERICA: One of the Greatest Stories Ever Told.
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Lone Star wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 11:14 amI just love all of these conspiracies created by the GET TRUMP crowd with political agendas.Did I miss the part where it identifies Ben as a Black Conservative Cameroonian-American and that stage was set as part of the White House's Young Black Leadership Summit 2019? Clearly no political bias in his statements.
*didn't watch the video, so maybe that info was contained there.
Lone Star your post makes it seem like a random black legal immigrant / service member (ex-service member , did 4 years in the Army) with no political agenda made positive statements about Mr. Trump.
Everyone at that Young Black Leadership Summit was a guest of the White House. Common sense would indicate that most, if not all of those in attendance, are supporters of Trump and his re-election. That should be obvious to everyone with reasonable analytical skills. Those young Black Leaders weren't forced there. They accepted an invitation to attend. Racist Hitlers don't invite those sort of people to the White House.
Trump's entire speech (that included Mr. Okereke's short speech) was provided earlier in this thread. So yes, as you correctly stated, you must have missed it.
I've noticed that this is your third non-participatory participation even though you claimed initially of your disinterest in debate.
Then you decided that you didn't believe some poll information because it was biased and ADMITTING NO PROOF.you have to love Lone Star's play with words, facts and laws.
do admire your dedication to Trump.
you (Lone Star) I assume are a fairly educated person, so won't post any follow up to this.......you know what i mean.
it's not that i'm scared of a debate........i just have a few friends similar to you that have drunk the koolaid and have lost all aaaalllllllllllll perspective.
And now this conspiracy regarding Mr. Okereke.
Your history makes me think that this is just some knit-picking trolling expedition. Anyone can automatically discount someone or something based on an affiliation. It would be a good idea, if you're actually going to try to participate in a discussion, to provide some facts to go along with your attacks -- whether the attacks are against me for supporting Trump or against the specific content. If you're going to accuse me of "playing with facts and words and laws," it's probably time for you to outline it. Anyone can make an accusation without proof. There is a continuous whining and crying on this forum about the way that I respond to posts. Your post quoted above is a perfect example of why I am justified in responding in the way that I do. You bring nothing.
This makes three times -- without any proof or facts to back up anything -- that you make a similar tired claim. It is now crystal clear that you think anything that shows Trump in a positive light is biased. You also think that anyone who supports Trump has been drinking the kool aid.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if some random and admittedly unproven attack is all you've got, we can all rest assured that it'll be the same for every post regarding Trump. I get it.
In the future, I will save you some time. I will add a footnote to every post that is positive of Trump, that you reject it as biased. That way it can all be handled quickly and painlessly.
Wow, what conspiracy. I just pointed out the facts, that you left out.
On my post not having any facts, you might want to read them again....it only contains facts and my opinions (and I clearly indicate which are my opinions, though my satire might be missed by you). Oh, also clear disclaimers like the video that I didn't watch.....on either the previous post or later post.
Note, I don't reject all you posts that can be backed up by fact or that aren't missing key information to put it in full context.
To be clear I do hate Trump......but I also hate Hillary (actually both Clintons).
Lastly, why is everything a conspiracy with you Trump supports.
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Lastly, is this the pot calling the kettle black.
"I just love all of these conspiracies created by the GET TRUMP crowd with political agendas."
If you don't get the satire, just change Trump with Hillary, Biden or Obama and you'll get my drift.
"I just love all of these conspiracies created by the GET TRUMP crowd with political agendas."
If you don't get the satire, just change Trump with Hillary, Biden or Obama and you'll get my drift.
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Gramma Lizzie's tax plans -- the ones we know about.
Ultra-Millionaire Tax: 2% tax on every dollar a household has above $50 million, which would increase to a 3% tax for households with above $1 billion. Americans with a net worth over $50 million who renounce their citizenship to dodge the tax will be subject to a 40% “exit tax.”
A finacial wall attacking achievement and Individual Liberty. Gramma Lizzie decides how much is too much.
Excessive Lobbying Tax: tax firms that spend between $500,000 and $1 million on lobbying at a rate of 35%, which increases to a 60% rate on firms that spend above $1 million and 75% on firms that spend above $5 million.
It will cost money to promote your free speech.
Real Corporate Profits Tax: 7% corporate tax would apply to every dollar above $100 million that a company reports in profits. The tax would exist in conjunction with the overall corporate tax rate, which Warren hopes will raise $1 trillion over the next 10 years.
Increase in Social Security contributions for the top 2%: 14.8% contribution requirement on individual wages above $250,000 as well as a 14.8% contribution requirement on net investment income for individuals making more than $250,000 and families making more than $400,000.
Rollback of Tax Cuts and Jobs Act: rolling back the legislation and restoring the previous corporate tax rate.
Increased tax rate for gun manufacturers: an increase in taxes on guns from 10% to 30%, while ammunition would be taxed at a rate of 50%.
Paying more for exercising your 2nd Amendment Right.
Increasing accountability for private equity firms: plan is not specific on costs or rates yet
Moving military contractors to carbon net-zero emissions: a fee amounting to 1% of the total value of the contract.
Medicare for All: specific details and tax rates of the plan unknown. Experts estimate the program could cost up to $32 trillion over 10 years.
Good luck to Gramma Lizzie.
Gramma Lizzie's tax plans -- the ones we know about.
Ultra-Millionaire Tax: 2% tax on every dollar a household has above $50 million, which would increase to a 3% tax for households with above $1 billion. Americans with a net worth over $50 million who renounce their citizenship to dodge the tax will be subject to a 40% “exit tax.”
A finacial wall attacking achievement and Individual Liberty. Gramma Lizzie decides how much is too much.
Excessive Lobbying Tax: tax firms that spend between $500,000 and $1 million on lobbying at a rate of 35%, which increases to a 60% rate on firms that spend above $1 million and 75% on firms that spend above $5 million.
It will cost money to promote your free speech.
Real Corporate Profits Tax: 7% corporate tax would apply to every dollar above $100 million that a company reports in profits. The tax would exist in conjunction with the overall corporate tax rate, which Warren hopes will raise $1 trillion over the next 10 years.
Increase in Social Security contributions for the top 2%: 14.8% contribution requirement on individual wages above $250,000 as well as a 14.8% contribution requirement on net investment income for individuals making more than $250,000 and families making more than $400,000.
Rollback of Tax Cuts and Jobs Act: rolling back the legislation and restoring the previous corporate tax rate.
Increased tax rate for gun manufacturers: an increase in taxes on guns from 10% to 30%, while ammunition would be taxed at a rate of 50%.
Paying more for exercising your 2nd Amendment Right.
Increasing accountability for private equity firms: plan is not specific on costs or rates yet
Moving military contractors to carbon net-zero emissions: a fee amounting to 1% of the total value of the contract.
Medicare for All: specific details and tax rates of the plan unknown. Experts estimate the program could cost up to $32 trillion over 10 years.
Good luck to Gramma Lizzie.
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"Fox News poll shows Trump nine points behind Biden in Wisconsin, a key swing state"
Biden polled at 48%, and Trump polled at 39% in the poll' head-to-head matchups.
Well
Biden polled at 48%, and Trump polled at 39% in the poll' head-to-head matchups.
Well
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'Leaving them to die': Trump allies blast decision to withdraw troops from Syria"
"Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Marco Rubio, R-Fla., expressed concern over “reports” of Trump’s planned withdrawal, despite the president’s own tweets confirming the move."
He doesnt need the Democrats in any way shape or form. He will get rid of himself
"Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Marco Rubio, R-Fla., expressed concern over “reports” of Trump’s planned withdrawal, despite the president’s own tweets confirming the move."
He doesnt need the Democrats in any way shape or form. He will get rid of himself
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The reason is because that is what it is, accusations and a planned conspiracy to get rid of Trump. Some people who can not win a fair fight will cheat, lie, and do what ever they can.Mosquito wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 12:30 pmLone Star wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 11:14 amI just love all of these conspiracies created by the GET TRUMP crowd with political agendas.Did I miss the part where it identifies Ben as a Black Conservative Cameroonian-American and that stage was set as part of the White House's Young Black Leadership Summit 2019? Clearly no political bias in his statements.
*didn't watch the video, so maybe that info was contained there.
Lone Star your post makes it seem like a random black legal immigrant / service member (ex-service member , did 4 years in the Army) with no political agenda made positive statements about Mr. Trump.
Everyone at that Young Black Leadership Summit was a guest of the White House. Common sense would indicate that most, if not all of those in attendance, are supporters of Trump and his re-election. That should be obvious to everyone with reasonable analytical skills. Those young Black Leaders weren't forced there. They accepted an invitation to attend. Racist Hitlers don't invite those sort of people to the White House.
Trump's entire speech (that included Mr. Okereke's short speech) was provided earlier in this thread. So yes, as you correctly stated, you must have missed it.
I've noticed that this is your third non-participatory participation even though you claimed initially of your disinterest in debate.
Then you decided that you didn't believe some poll information because it was biased and ADMITTING NO PROOF.you have to love Lone Star's play with words, facts and laws.
do admire your dedication to Trump.
you (Lone Star) I assume are a fairly educated person, so won't post any follow up to this.......you know what i mean.
it's not that i'm scared of a debate........i just have a few friends similar to you that have drunk the koolaid and have lost all aaaalllllllllllll perspective.
And now this conspiracy regarding Mr. Okereke.
Your history makes me think that this is just some knit-picking trolling expedition. Anyone can automatically discount someone or something based on an affiliation. It would be a good idea, if you're actually going to try to participate in a discussion, to provide some facts to go along with your attacks -- whether the attacks are against me for supporting Trump or against the specific content. If you're going to accuse me of "playing with facts and words and laws," it's probably time for you to outline it. Anyone can make an accusation without proof. There is a continuous whining and crying on this forum about the way that I respond to posts. Your post quoted above is a perfect example of why I am justified in responding in the way that I do. You bring nothing.
This makes three times -- without any proof or facts to back up anything -- that you make a similar tired claim. It is now crystal clear that you think anything that shows Trump in a positive light is biased. You also think that anyone who supports Trump has been drinking the kool aid.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if some random and admittedly unproven attack is all you've got, we can all rest assured that it'll be the same for every post regarding Trump. I get it.
In the future, I will save you some time. I will add a footnote to every post that is positive of Trump, that you reject it as biased. That way it can all be handled quickly and painlessly.
Wow, what conspiracy. I just pointed out the facts, that you left out.
On my post not having any facts, you might want to read them again....it only contains facts and my opinions (and I clearly indicate which are my opinions, though my satire might be missed by you). Oh, also clear disclaimers like the video that I didn't watch.....on either the previous post or later post.
Note, I don't reject all you posts that can be backed up by fact or that aren't missing key information to put it in full context.
To be clear I do hate Trump......but I also hate Hillary (actually both Clintons).
Lastly, why is everything a conspiracy with you Trump supports.
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Here is a perfect example. If Trump brings troops home he is wrong, if he sends in more, he is wrong. If he does not do something he is wrong. It would be funny if it was not so sad.Doodoo wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 11:13 pm'Leaving them to die': Trump allies blast decision to withdraw troops from Syria"
"Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Marco Rubio, R-Fla., expressed concern over “reports” of Trump’s planned withdrawal, despite the president’s own tweets confirming the move."
He doesnt need the Democrats in any way shape or form. He will get rid of himself
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jai yen yen, "The reason is because that is what it is, accusations and a planned conspiracy to get rid of Trump. Some people who can not win a fair fight will cheat, lie, and do what ever they can."
Another pot calling the kettle black:
Have you googles the list of confirmed Trump lies and half truths?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... over-days/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_ ... nald_Trump
https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ing/false/
*still waiting on that 10% tax cut he used to get elected in 2016.
- pls don't go into last years tax cut, don't want to debate it's effect on the nations debt/deficit/SS etc.
*maybe he'll try a 15% tax cut promise to get elected in 2020.
Give you that all politicians / Presidents lie or fail to keep promises, but Trump is the by far the worst.
Think that covers the "lie" bit, will have to wait on tax returns, Ukraine X2, Roger Stone (will he flip), and the list of cases opened after Cohen's testimony to see about the "cheat" bit.
*5 close associates of Trump already convicted/accepted guilty pleas, doesn't bode well for the "cheat" bit.
Will also give you that majority of politicians are crooks, but two wrongs don't make it right.
Another pot calling the kettle black:
Have you googles the list of confirmed Trump lies and half truths?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... over-days/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_ ... nald_Trump
https://www.politifact.com/personalitie ... ing/false/
*still waiting on that 10% tax cut he used to get elected in 2016.
- pls don't go into last years tax cut, don't want to debate it's effect on the nations debt/deficit/SS etc.
*maybe he'll try a 15% tax cut promise to get elected in 2020.
Give you that all politicians / Presidents lie or fail to keep promises, but Trump is the by far the worst.
Think that covers the "lie" bit, will have to wait on tax returns, Ukraine X2, Roger Stone (will he flip), and the list of cases opened after Cohen's testimony to see about the "cheat" bit.
*5 close associates of Trump already convicted/accepted guilty pleas, doesn't bode well for the "cheat" bit.
Will also give you that majority of politicians are crooks, but two wrongs don't make it right.
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That is pretty much it.jai yen yen wrote: ↑October 7, 2019, 11:38 pmHere is a perfect example. If Trump brings troops home he is wrong, if he sends in more, he is wrong. If he does not do something he is wrong. It would be funny if it was not so sad.
It doesn't matter what Trump does. GET TRUMP BECAUSE TRUMP.
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