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The Pillars of Modern American Conservatism
Although conservatism as we know it today is a relatively new movement—it emerged after World War II and only became a political force in the 1960s—it is based on ideas that are as old as Western civilization itself. The intellectual foundations on which this movement has been built stretch back to antiquity, were further developed during the Middle Ages and in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century England, and were ultimately formulated into a coherent political philosophy at the time of the founding of the United States. In a real sense, conservatism is Western civilization.
1. Liberty
2. Tradition and Order
3. The Rule of Law
4. Belief in God

Because American Conservatives believe that we were born with inalienable rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, those rights came from a higher power than any government or ruler.
For conservatives, there must be an authority greater than man, greater than any ruler, individual, or government: no state can demand our absolute obedience or attempt to control every aspect of our lives. There must be a moral order, conservatives believe, that undergirds political order. This pillar of conservatism does not mean mixing up faith and politics, and it certainly does not mean settling religious disputes politically. It also does not mean that conservatives have a monopoly on faith, or even that all conservatives are necessarily believers.

Each of the four pillars is closely related to all the others. Liberty, for example, is considered a gift of God and must be protected by the rule of law. The rule of law itself is dependent on the natural law—a transcendent law reflected in every orderly and civilized society, demarcating good and evil. Tradition and order are best reflected by our common law—a law developed over centuries by reasonable people in their everyday lives, which sets the rules for social order consistent with the past. And tradition is an important dimension of belief in God. What could demonstrate tradition and order more fully, for example, than the Old Testament and the history of the Jewish people, or the doctrines of the Christian Church?
The influence that British political thinkers had on conservative philosophy could fill many books. Among those whose thought is central to conservative philosophy are John Locke, John Stuart Mill, David Hume, and most important, Edmund Burke.
All of these contributions from scholars in other countries contributed greatly to the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution.
The Declaration’s most memorable passage encapsulates the most basic beliefs of our Founders:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Here the Founders are affirming that natural law is a higher law than that made by men, one that establishes the difference between right and wrong. The Declaration goes on to say that to secure our God-given rights, “governments are instituted by men”—in other words, natural law is the foundation on which all legitimate man-made law is built. It then says that the only legitimate governments are those that operate by the consent of the governed, and that the governed have a right—again, God-given—to change the government or abolish it.
Since the days of the Founders and Framers, American Conservatism has evolved into the following:
While the particular issues we face today may be different from those of the past, the four pillars of modern American conservatism remain robust. Conservatives universally advocate a return to limited government, for as Ronald Reagan used to say, a government that can give you everything you want can also take away everything you have. Conservatives advocate free market capitalism, less regulation of economic activity, and fiscal responsibility. They also favor entrepreneurship and lower taxes to spur economic growth. Conservatives work to restrain activist judges in an effort to restore the rule of law.

Social conservatives today work to shore up family values. They oppose abortion, same-sex marriage, and sexual permissiveness. They also advocate strengthening traditional standards in education, and a larger role for religious faith in public life.

On foreign policy issues, conservatives have recently been divided. Traditionally, conservatives have believed that war should be avoided if at all possible but that a strong national defense is nevertheless vital. Peace through strength, if you will. But a new strand of conservatives joined the movement in the 1970s and 1980s: the so-called neoconservatives. Many of these were former Democrats, liberals on domestic policy but anti-Communists and hawks who made common cause with other conservatives toward the end of the Cold War. Neoconservatives tend to be more willing to use military power for purposes other than simply defending American interests.

Still, there are really no clear lines of demarcation between the different branches of conservatism, and in fact most conservatives don’t fit neatly into one or another camp. Almost always there are enough genuine similarities in outlook such that, wherever they come from, conservatives can usually work together for the broader cause. As long as we remain faithful to the four pillars of conservatism, the order of liberty, morality, and justice that we have built will stand firm.
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What Is Conservatism?

There has been a great effort since World War II to attempt to tie liberalism to conservatism. The reasons are contained in the introductory paragraphs here; but that tying of principles is dangerous to conservatism.
But since the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, these circumstances have changed. The challenges facing the Anglo-American tradition are now coming from other directions entirely. Radical Islam, to name one such challenge, is a menace that liberals, for reasons internal to their own view of the political world, find difficult to regard as a threat and especially difficult to oppose in an effective manner. But even more important is the challenge arising from liberalism itself. It is now evident that liberal principles contribute little or nothing to those institutions that were for centuries the bedrock of the Anglo-American political order: nationalism, religious tradition, the Bible as a source of political principles and wisdom, and the family. Indeed, as liberalism has emerged victorious from the battles of the last century, the logic of its doctrines has increasingly turned liberals against all of these conservative institutions. On both of these fronts, the conservative and liberal principles of the Anglo-American tradition are now painfully at cross-purposes. The twentieth-century alliance between conservatism and liberalism is proving increasingly difficult to maintain.

Among the effects of the long alliance between conservatism and liberalism has been a tendency of political figures, journalists, and academics to slip back and forth between conservative terms and ideas and liberal ones as if they were interchangeable. And until recently, there seemed to be no great harm in this. Now, however, it is becoming obvious that this lack of clarity is crippling our ability to think about a host of issues, from immigration and foreign wars to the content of the Constitution and the place of religion in education and public life. In these and other areas, America, Britain, and their allies can neither recognize the difficulties ahead nor develop appropriate responses to them without a strong and intellectually capable conservatism. But to have a strong and intellectually capable conservatism, we must be able to see clearly what the Anglo-American conservative tradition is and what it is about. And to do this, we have to disentangle it from its old opponent—liberalism.
This essay outlines the historical and philosophical differences between the two major Anglo-American political traditions, conservative and liberal. It outlines the conservative traditions as:

1. Historical Empiricism
2. Nationalism
3. Religion
4. Limited Executive Power
5. Individual Freedoms
These principles can serve as a useful summary of the conservative political tradition as it existed long before Locke and long before liberalism, serving as the basis for the restoration of the English constitution in 1689, and for the restoration that was the ratification of the American Constitution of 1787. Moreover, we see them as principles that we can affirm today, and which can serve as a sound basis for political conservatism in Britain, America, and other countries in our time.
Liberals try to divide the universe between themselves and everything and everyone else that they hate.
In so doing, they divide the political universe into two: there are liberals—those decent persons who are willing to exercise reason in the universally accepted manner and come to the appropriate liberal conclusions; and there are those others—the “illiberals,” who, out of ignorance, resentment, or some atavistic hatred, will not get with the program. When things are divided up this way, the latter group ends up including everyone from Brexiteers, Trump supporters, Evangelical Christians, and Orthodox Jews to dictators, Iranian ayatollahs, and Nazis. Once things are framed in this way, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that everyone in that second group is in some degree a threat that must be combated.
Not surprisingly, it is how Leftists on this forum lump groups.
We conservatives, however, have our own preferred division of the political universe: one in which Anglo-American conservatism appears as a distinct political category that is obviously neither authoritarian nor liberal. With the rest of the Anglo-American conservative tradition, we uphold the principles of limited government and individual liberties. But we also see clearly (again, in keeping with our conservative tradition) that the only forces that give the state its internal coherence and stability, holding limited government in place while staving off authoritarianism, are our nationalist and religious traditions. These nationalist and religious principles are not liberal. They are prior to liberalism, in conflict with liberalism, and presently being destroyed by liberalism.

Our world desperately needs to hear a clear conservative voice. Any continued confusion of conservative principles with the liberalism on our Left, or with the authoritarianism on our Right, can only do harm. The time has arrived when conservatives must speak in our own voice again. In doing so, we will discover that we can provide the political foundations that so many now seek, but have been unable to find.
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Except among Democrats, slavery is universally rejected by all in America. During the Civil War of 1861, it was seen as an issue of states' rights by the Democrats who were involved in this practice. The fight on the part of some was not so much to preserve slavery, but to preserve the right of the people under the 9th and 10th Amendments to preserve their right to self-government as a state.

The 13th Amendment was necessary to remove the decision from states on slavery. That was the proper way, under the United States Constitution, to eliminate slavery. Prior to the Civil War, the courts upheld the right of states to decide for themselves.

The abortion issue has always been one of states' rights. States have always been different in their views of abortion; but the Roe v Wade decision changed all of that. It created a federal mandate in favor of abortion that overrode every state's ability to create their own laws regarding the killing of infants in the womb. It should have been covered by the 9th and 10th Amendments to the Constitution. And it was covered; but the courts legislated from the bench even though "abortion" and "privacy" are not rights addressed in the Constitution.

The same was true of gay marriage. California citizens, believe it or not, voted to outlaw it; and their courts overturned the will of the people to govern themselves. Since it was not addressed in the Constitution, those in favor of outlawing gay marriage felt that it was covered under the 9th and 10th Amendments. And it was covered; but the courts legislated from the bench.

Abortion and gay marriage were removed from states' rights by the courts. Not by Amendment or federal congressional law.

All of this has been outlined to provide some background on states' rights, a bedrock of conservative thought; and on the court legislating from the bench.

The following article compares the court's views in the Dred Scott case (and others) and the abortion case currently under review by the Supreme Court. If the court upholds the Mississippi Law, they will effectively allow states to exercise their right to govern. It would not affect states like New York that allow for abortions to occur even after birth.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... y-opinion/
Dobbs V. Jackson: An Easy Opinion

It should be noted that removing abortion from national politics does not make abortion illegal nationwide. It only makes abortion illegal (in varying degrees) by the citizens in states where they seek to outlaw it.
The public will now understand what the Court did not in Casey when it, echoing Justice Wayne’s concurring opinion in Dred Scott, called “the contending sides to end their division by accepting a common mandate rooted in the Constitution.” Dred Scott failed because the fugitive slave provisions of the Constitution and the Compromise of 1850 rendered Northern states complicit in the permissiveness of the South. Casey failed for the same reason, by imposing coastal rules on “flyover” country.

Our decision reversing the Fifth Circuit judgment is of little direct consequence. Some four percent of abortions per year are performed after the 15th week, many in states that will continue to have liberal abortion laws.
Roe could very well be dead.

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Post by Khun Paul » December 4, 2021, 3:21 pm

For my pennysworth the way Abortion is being handled by Americans is in my view a slap in the face of women and removing their rights.
But then the way America is moving I am not surprised but saddened .

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https://www.heritage.org/truenorth
True North: The Principles of Conservatism

A guide to building an America where freedom, opportunity, prosperity, and civil society flourish.
The Heritage Foundation formulates policies that promote free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense. Heritage does not support policies that deviate from these principles, nor are our recommendations ever influenced by donations or outside political pressure.
1. The federal government exists to protect rights as outlined in the Constitution.

2. Limited powers of the federal government as outlined in the Constitution.

3. Originalist Judges, not activists on the bench.

4. Individual Liberty.

5. Preservation of family values.

6. A balanced federal budget.

7. No unreasonable and excessive taxation.

8. Free Enterprise, private property rights and the rule of law.

9. No unreasonable and excessive regulation.

10. Immigration with patriotic assimilation.

11. Due process, fair judgment and the rule of law.

12. America first in every international agreement.

13. Protect national interests.

14. Peace through strength for a strong national defense.


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Ben Shapiro provides a summary of 4 general and broad characteristics of Conservatism and why and how.




Ben Shapiro Explaining the Core Principles of Conservatism


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again someone relating false info
3 days the page was opened It doesnt necessarily mean anyone viewed it
Its more like 3 days 1 person replied

This is a repeat of what Lone Star would publish a few years back pushing False info

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The eight principles of conservatism

1. Inalienable rights

2. Limited government

3. Equal justice under the law

4. Local and state government is best for solutions

5. There is always a trade off

6. Individual Liberty

7. Good intentions often result in failure

8. Spend your own money on yourself or someone else.
From John Locke and Thomas Jefferson to Friedrich Hayek and Thomas Sowell, great minds have penned thousands of pages expounding on the above, building complex policy positions and framing national debates. From copyright law to school vouchers, from Medicare reform to immigration policy, conservative positions derive from one or more aspects of these eight starting points of liberty in a free society. We owe it to society and its future generations to restate the obvious: 2+2=4. Because when someone says 2+2=5, that extra 1 often becomes another fiscally insolvent government program.
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The Difference Between Liberal and Conservative


Three questions destroy most of the arguments of the Left:
1. Compared to what?
2. At what cost?
3. What hard evidence do you have?

Very few ideas of the Left can pass all three questions. #3 is the kicker.


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Declan aka Lone Star must be hard to view your own posting 285 times Where do you get the time

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The 10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

A limited federal government was always a goal of the Americans who originally ratified the United States Constitution.

They sought to avoid a federal government that would dictate similarly to the tyrannical rule of George III, which they successfully revolted against. As a result, the 10th Amendment to the Constitution was of utmost importance to the states who wished to retain some autonomy.

The Constitution grants the federal government certain powers that are specifically enumerated. The 10th Amendment grants all other powers not granted to the federal government and not denied to the states as being "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Americans who ratified the original Constitution and Amendments did two things: They created a limited federal government with enumerated powers and then created the 10th Amendment to give states the powers that they required in order to be able to ratify the US Constitution. The message was loud and clear that the federal government could have just so much power and no more.

Since FDR's New Deal, the courts have become activists for expansive federal power and seeing things in the US Constitution that are not there. The interpretations have harmed the states and their powers under the 10th Amendment. The majority of Americans want to be left alone. Citizens remain in states where the laws suit their view of socioeconomic existence. When the federal government imposes regulations nationwide that are not one of their enumerated powers, it harms the liberty and freedom in every state. Freedom of movement becomes moot in an overreaching federal government.

Overreach reared its ugly head with ObamaCare. Prior to this, health insurance was a state issue. Health insurance companies could not even sell their policies across state lines. There is nothing in the US Constitution that grants that power of healthcare to the federal government. And yet, it was granted because the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court decided that it was a tax, which was never mentioned in any part of the legislation. It is called "legislating from the bench." The Chief Justice actually rewrote the law in stead of kicking it back to Congress, as was customary, to rewrite the legislation to pass muster. As a result, the federal government was granted unfettered power to do whatever it wanted to do.

And here we are in 2021 with the federal government trying to mandate all sorts of dystopian regulations relative to covid -- that are not laws -- across the entire United States. The only thing saving some American citizens from this tyranny is the fact that they have city and state officials who are exercising their 10th Amendment States' Rights and rejecting these federal mandates in Republican-led states. Citizens in Democrat-led states are not so lucky. Their state mandates are worse than anything the federal government has tried to execute.

During the Obama administration and after, it became popular for Democrat-led cities and states to create "sanctuary cities" that ignored federal immigration laws. These same states provided drivers licenses and other state benefits normally reserved for citizens. It also put the safety and security of citizens in great peril nationwide. It attracted more illegal aliens, and once they were given a drivers license to use as ID, they were free to roam and entire United States with a false legitimacy. Today, Republican-led states have borrowed that playbook and are creating "Liberty Sanctuaries" in their cities and states to reject federal government overreach from the current regime in power and to protect the rights of their citizens.

Conservatives fully embrace the US Constitution and that includes the 10th Amendment and States' Rights.

The liberties of American citizens fully depend on a federal government that defends the US Constitution and the rights of all Americans. There are increasing efforts to ignore the rights of Americans by the federal government and hope that activist judges rule in favor of federal government overreach. The self-restraint that voters hope are exercised by their federal government officials has increasingly shown that there is little or no restraint at all.

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Re: American Conservatism in the 21st Century

Post by Teacher Dan » December 7, 2021, 12:30 pm

Not just conservatives believe in a limited government and the sanctity of the 10th Amendment because as a lifelong Independent, I for one do, but more importantly so do libertarians, who are not just conservative--Dave Rubin and Tim Poole are both libertarians, but both were also former liberal democrats. Also generally speaking anarchists also believe in the limited government and local control aspects very much, like Michael Malice. In fact IF the GOP conservatives would get with the program as President Trump did, there are far more allies to be found for conservatism than liberalism and it's not even close, like a 70/30 or 60/40 split in America.
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Re: American Conservatism in the 21st Century

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Declan MacPherson wrote:
December 2, 2021, 9:38 pm
https://isi.org/intercollegiate-review/ ... servatism/
The Pillars of Modern American Conservatism
Although conservatism as we know it today is a relatively new movement—it emerged after World War II and only became a political force in the 1960s—it is based on ideas that are as old as Western civilization itself. The intellectual foundations on which this movement has been built stretch back to antiquity, were further developed during the Middle Ages and in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century England, and were ultimately formulated into a coherent political philosophy at the time of the founding of the United States. In a real sense, conservatism is Western civilization.
1. Liberty
2. Tradition and Order
3. The Rule of Law
4. Belief in God

Because American Conservatives believe that we were born with inalienable rights outlined in the Bill of Rights, those rights came from a higher power than any government or ruler.
For conservatives, there must be an authority greater than man, greater than any ruler, individual, or government: no state can demand our absolute obedience or attempt to control every aspect of our lives. There must be a moral order, conservatives believe, that undergirds political order. This pillar of conservatism does not mean mixing up faith and politics, and it certainly does not mean settling religious disputes politically. It also does not mean that conservatives have a monopoly on faith, or even that all conservatives are necessarily believers.

Each of the four pillars is closely related to all the others. Liberty, for example, is considered a gift of God and must be protected by the rule of law. The rule of law itself is dependent on the natural law—a transcendent law reflected in every orderly and civilized society, demarcating good and evil. Tradition and order are best reflected by our common law—a law developed over centuries by reasonable people in their everyday lives, which sets the rules for social order consistent with the past. And tradition is an important dimension of belief in God. What could demonstrate tradition and order more fully, for example, than the Old Testament and the history of the Jewish people, or the doctrines of the Christian Church?
The influence that British political thinkers had on conservative philosophy could fill many books. Among those whose thought is central to conservative philosophy are John Locke, John Stuart Mill, David Hume, and most important, Edmund Burke.
All of these contributions from scholars in other countries contributed greatly to the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution.
The Declaration’s most memorable passage encapsulates the most basic beliefs of our Founders:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Here the Founders are affirming that natural law is a higher law than that made by men, one that establishes the difference between right and wrong. The Declaration goes on to say that to secure our God-given rights, “governments are instituted by men”—in other words, natural law is the foundation on which all legitimate man-made law is built. It then says that the only legitimate governments are those that operate by the consent of the governed, and that the governed have a right—again, God-given—to change the government or abolish it.
Since the days of the Founders and Framers, American Conservatism has evolved into the following:
While the particular issues we face today may be different from those of the past, the four pillars of modern American conservatism remain robust. Conservatives universally advocate a return to limited government, for as Ronald Reagan used to say, a government that can give you everything you want can also take away everything you have. Conservatives advocate free market capitalism, less regulation of economic activity, and fiscal responsibility. They also favor entrepreneurship and lower taxes to spur economic growth. Conservatives work to restrain activist judges in an effort to restore the rule of law.

Social conservatives today work to shore up family values. They oppose abortion, same-sex marriage, and sexual permissiveness. They also advocate strengthening traditional standards in education, and a larger role for religious faith in public life.

On foreign policy issues, conservatives have recently been divided. Traditionally, conservatives have believed that war should be avoided if at all possible but that a strong national defense is nevertheless vital. Peace through strength, if you will. But a new strand of conservatives joined the movement in the 1970s and 1980s: the so-called neoconservatives. Many of these were former Democrats, liberals on domestic policy but anti-Communists and hawks who made common cause with other conservatives toward the end of the Cold War. Neoconservatives tend to be more willing to use military power for purposes other than simply defending American interests.

Still, there are really no clear lines of demarcation between the different branches of conservatism, and in fact most conservatives don’t fit neatly into one or another camp. Almost always there are enough genuine similarities in outlook such that, wherever they come from, conservatives can usually work together for the broader cause. As long as we remain faithful to the four pillars of conservatism, the order of liberty, morality, and justice that we have built will stand firm.
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Wouldn't you consider the Magna Carta, which was really the premise for the Bill of Rights in America as the true origin of conservatism--long before World War II? Just a thought as I've always considered the Magna Carta the inspiration for our founding fathers in America in the entire concept of 'inalienable rights'.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » December 7, 2021, 1:51 pm

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Wouldn't you consider the Magna Carta, which was really the premise for the Bill of Rights in America as the true origin of conservatism--long before World War II? Just a thought as I've always considered the Magna Carta the inspiration for our founding fathers in America in the entire concept of 'inalienable rights'.
It had a role. No question about it. My efforts here are addressing conservatism today since WWII with some brief background prior to that. As the title of the thread states, it is about conservatism in this century; but any additional historical elaboration is a good thing.

And yes, there are others who believe in limited government besides Conservatives. There are many, other than Conservatives, who fully embrace the US Constitution in its entirety. Today, there are a huge number of Democrat voters and Independent voters who are embracing many conservative values. I run across many every day, and we have some great discussions.

Appreciate your thoughtful responses and contribution!
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Teacher Dan wrote:
December 7, 2021, 12:34 pm
Wouldn't you consider the Magna Carta, which was really the premise for the Bill of Rights in America as the true origin of conservatism--long before World War II? Just a thought as I've always considered the Magna Carta the inspiration for our founding fathers in America in the entire concept of 'inalienable rights'.
And yes, there are others who believe in limited government besides Conservatives. There are many, other than Conservatives, who fully embrace the US Constitution in its entirety. Today, there are a huge number of Democrat voters and Independent voters who are embracing many conservative values. I run across many every day, and we have some great discussions.

Appreciate your thoughtful responses and contribution!
I think if the GOP or right in America were to have better messaging and had not ceded all the mainstream media and institutions to the left for so long, they would have a majority of the Hispanic, Latino, and even black vote in America. Most are very much conservative in their views, a fact which has always amazed me about their tendency to vote DEM...it's not only against their views, but actually against their personal interests most times.
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I think if the GOP or right in America were to have better messaging and had not ceded all the mainstream media and institutions to the left for so long, they would have a majority of the Hispanic, Latino, and even black vote in America. Most are very much conservative in their views, a fact which has always amazed me about their tendency to vote DEM...it's not only against their views, but actually against their personal interests most times.
Reagan and Trump were both good at articulating the conservative vision. They simply told the truth and recounted history. Cruz, Lee, Hawley, Jordan and a handful of others are excellent at it. The rest, not so much.

And yes, the values of minorities are closely associated with the conservative philosophy. Most do not even realize it. When they find out, it is an epiphany of huge proportions. More and more, with the help of the Democrat Communists, minorities are running away from the plantation and into the conservative big tent. It has been fun to watch.
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I think if the GOP or right in America were to have better messaging and had not ceded all the mainstream media and institutions to the left for so long, they would have a majority of the Hispanic, Latino, and even black vote in America. Most are very much conservative in their views, a fact which has always amazed me about their tendency to vote DEM...it's not only against their views, but actually against their personal interests most times.
Reagan and Trump were both good at articulating the conservative vision. They simply told the truth and recounted history. Cruz, Lee, Hawley, Jordan and a handful of others are excellent at it. The rest, not so much.

And yes, the values of minorities are closely associated with the conservative philosophy. Most do not even realize it. When they find out, it is an epiphany of huge proportions. More and more, with the help of the Democrat Communists, minorities are running away from the plantation and into the conservative big tent. It has been fun to watch.
Yep. I was part of one of the movements the #walkaway movement that started a few years back and while I've always been an independent, when I saw what the left had become I decided that I could never vote for that again. Brandon Straka led the movement and like Dave Rubin, he is a gay man who normally would have been a DEM, but both of them walked away as did many more. Similarly Candace Owens and Kanye helped with the #Blexit movement for blacks to leave the DEMs but sadly it hasn't been enough on its own yet to overcome their voter fraud. However, the grass roots movement led by many ex-Trump staffers like Steve Bannon and others are helping the GOP take over the local election centers to stop the fraud in the future and that combined with adding voter ID will work wonders to stop the DEMs' election fraud.
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Re: American Conservatism in the 21st Century

Post by Kenr6583 » December 7, 2021, 10:02 pm

Quote from Trump, “ Anybody that doesn’t think there wasn’t massive election fraud in the 2020 presidential election is either very stupid, or very corrupt!”

Trump now admits there wasn’t any voter fraud. So you can stop with the conspiracy theories now.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » December 8, 2021, 10:13 am

Teacher Dan wrote:
December 7, 2021, 9:58 pm
Yep. I was part of one of the movements the #walkaway movement that started a few years back and while I've always been an independent, when I saw what the left had become I decided that I could never vote for that again. Brandon Straka led the movement and like Dave Rubin, he is a gay man who normally would have been a DEM, but both of them walked away as did many more. Similarly Candace Owens and Kanye helped with the #Blexit movement for blacks to leave the DEMs but sadly it hasn't been enough on its own yet to overcome their voter fraud. However, the grass roots movement led by many ex-Trump staffers like Steve Bannon and others are helping the GOP take over the local election centers to stop the fraud in the future and that combined with adding voter ID will work wonders to stop the DEMs' election fraud.
The #Walkaway Movement was well done and effective. It was happening in dribbles before 2016 and continued afterwards due to the reality of America actually working again and being productive. Many Democrat voters could not deny their lying eyes. #Walkaway was a tremendous force, which is why Facebook deplatformed them. They were effective.

But even more effective than that has been the Democrat Communists themselves with their tyranny and totalitarian mandates and edicts. Today, walkaway has become #RunAway.
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Dennis Prager always does a great job of articulating the Conservative Philosophy.

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisp ... s-n2600237
Why You Should Come Out of the Closet With Your Conservative Values
So, then, what arguments can be offered on behalf of coming out of the closet?

The first is this: For every person you alienate, you will likely bring at least one new, wonderful person into your life.

Putting aside issues of courage, of standing for what is right, of saving America from those working to destroy it, there is a great selfish reason to come out of the closet: kindred spirits, i.e., good people, will discover you.
Regarding reason one -- sleeping better -- staying in the closet exacts a serious mental price on a person. One should not think only coming out of the closet exacts a price.

As for the second reason, virtually no price paid for coming out of the closet is comparable to the rewards of doing so. There is little as happiness-inducing as having kindred spirits in your life.
And there are at least two other arguments for coming out.

One is that you will respect yourself more. And so will others -- including, quite possibly, one or more of your children (and your grandchildren, if you have any).

And two: You will help save this country from tyranny. For some, that should suffice.
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Re: American Conservatism in the 21st Century

Post by Teacher Dan » December 8, 2021, 1:13 pm

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December 8, 2021, 10:13 am

The #Walkaway Movement was well done and effective. It was happening in dribbles before 2016 and continued afterwards due to the reality of America actually working again and being productive. Many Democrat voters could not deny their lying eyes. #Walkaway was a tremendous force, which is why Facebook deplatformed them. They were effective.

But even more effective than that has been the Democrat Communists themselves with their tyranny and totalitarian mandates and edicts. Today, walkaway has become #RunAway.
Yeah that is a large part of why so many Hispanics and Latinos are running from them between the push for communism, which many of them fled to come here, and their push to let illegals come in without any process not only hurts them economically since they're fighting for the same jobs, but is a slap in the fact to those who came to the US the right way, the legal way! They don't like cheaters!

Oh and Brandon didn't just get deplatformed, he got caught up in the Jan 6th nonsense (the false flag insurrection) and has been attacked on the legal front for months. The left have released their Brown Shirts at the FBI on all their enemies and now parents opposing that racist ahistorical CRT nonsense are considered the next enemies to be hunted down.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » December 8, 2021, 2:40 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
December 8, 2021, 1:13 pm
Declan MacPherson wrote:
December 8, 2021, 10:13 am

The #Walkaway Movement was well done and effective. It was happening in dribbles before 2016 and continued afterwards due to the reality of America actually working again and being productive. Many Democrat voters could not deny their lying eyes. #Walkaway was a tremendous force, which is why Facebook deplatformed them. They were effective.

But even more effective than that has been the Democrat Communists themselves with their tyranny and totalitarian mandates and edicts. Today, walkaway has become #RunAway.
Yeah that is a large part of why so many Hispanics and Latinos are running from them between the push for communism, which many of them fled to come here, and their push to let illegals come in without any process not only hurts them economically since they're fighting for the same jobs, but is a slap in the fact to those who came to the US the right way, the legal way! They don't like cheaters!

Oh and Brandon didn't just get deplatformed, he got caught up in the Jan 6th nonsense (the false flag insurrection) and has been attacked on the legal front for months. The left have released their Brown Shirts at the FBI on all their enemies and now parents opposing that racist ahistorical CRT nonsense are considered the next enemies to be hunted down.
Agree regarding the illegal immigration being a slap in the faces of legal immigrants. I fully embrace the legal immigrant.

Latino South Texas is exploding Republican. They have elected Republican mayors in the last couple of years that have been Democrat dark blue for decades.

True about Brandon and #WalkAway. He got caught up in that failed DOJ operation and is still in the crosshairs. More and more of that unravels every day. Joebama's STASI has started arresting people who were not even inside the Capitol and were not part of any violent activity or conspiracy. As with every overreach, this one has already started backfiring.
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