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Post by Whistler » March 17, 2023, 12:03 pm

Don't worry about wearing flower's in your hair, just make sure you are Black.

I never thought I would ever agree with the nutter, Lauren Boebert (even if she got some facts wrong) that a proposal is more than a tad crazy. A bill has been drafted to give every eligible Black person $5M as reparation for being impacted from slavery, and some Black activists claim $5M is not enough. Boebert was wrong when she claimed there was no slavery in California, but $5M as reparations seem loopy to me. Not sure how 'eligible' is defined, but really, slavery was abolished in the 1860's, nobody who was a slave still lives, and quite a few generations from then.

Black people do suffer a number of inequities today, but slavery is not one of them.


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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by Whistler » March 17, 2023, 12:32 pm

Doodoo wrote:
March 17, 2023, 12:27 pm
Slavery in the world still exists.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... ve-slavery
Was talking about San Francisco doodoo, thought that was as obvious to most posters, my bad. If you look really, really carefully you will see this is on the US politics thread, not the Saudi politics page.
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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by Doodoo » March 17, 2023, 1:33 pm

This was pointed at the readership and not your posting about San Francisco

It points out that Slavery exists still

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » March 17, 2023, 1:44 pm

I went to San Francisco back in 1971 or so. I got off the Greyhound after a three and a half day ride from Toronto just in time to see a policeman club a wino into a stack of lockers. My next stop turned out to be a pleasant one at a topless restaurant. Nevertheless, that was enough of 'Frisco for me, and I took the next bus to Oregon.

Yes, the proposal is ridiculous and yes, slavery still exists in the world today.
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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » March 17, 2023, 2:39 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
March 17, 2023, 1:51 pm
Thought you were gonna say it rained so ya got wet in the topless restaurant ........ (there are very few restaurants that dont benefit from having a ceiling and attached aircon units)
Yes, well, I was very confused after witnessing the beating, the 85 hours on the bus, and experiencing a topless restaurant for the first time. I should have worn some flowers in my hair and met some gentle people there.
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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by stattointhailand » March 17, 2023, 4:15 pm

OOOOh I think I feel a strange vibration, all across the nation

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Post by rick » March 17, 2023, 5:08 pm

Although slavery did exist in California, it mainly affected indigenous people. Some black slaves were imported during the gold rush, but it was never legal. Of course black people were discriminated against, but were never legally slaves there. Perhaps indigenous people should get compensation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... California

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Post by noosard » March 17, 2023, 5:18 pm

Pay the Mexicans as well

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Post by stattointhailand » March 17, 2023, 5:26 pm

And me .......and the families of all Brits who left in 1776 please whilst your at it :lol:

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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by deankham » March 17, 2023, 6:22 pm

I identify as a black Californian and as such demand my $5m compensation.

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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by jackspratt » March 17, 2023, 8:25 pm

Earnest wrote:
March 17, 2023, 3:15 pm
DooDoo's response is relevant in response to the last line of your post. Your sweeping assertion that Black people do not suffer from enslavement in the 21st century is baseless - where's your justification for such a claim?

Your thread title bears no relation to your gripe other than a geographical location, maybe using 'slavery reparations' in the header could give us an indication of your thread's intent?
Whistler wrote:
March 17, 2023, 12:03 pm
Black people do suffer a number of inequities today, but slavery is not one of them.
Doodoo wrote:
March 17, 2023, 12:27 pm
Slavery in the world still exists.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... ve-slavery
I agree that Doodoo made a valid point.

Far be it that members should be obliged to interpret what other posters had in mind when making loose statements.

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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by glalt » March 19, 2023, 9:09 am

Reparation for slavery?? My ancestors died in the Civil War freeing the slaves. What kind of reparation do I get?

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Post by Udon Map » March 19, 2023, 9:20 am

Whistler wrote:
March 17, 2023, 12:03 pm
I never thought I would ever agree with the nutter, Lauren Boebert (even if she got some facts wrong) that a proposal is more than a tad crazy. A bill has been drafted to give every eligible Black person $5M as reparation for being impacted from slavery, and some Black activists claim $5M is not enough.
Totally agree. Yes, there was slavery. Yes, it was wrong. But this is just another instance of Presentism, measuring and evaluating historical events by current standards.



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Re: If you're going to San Francisco

Post by Whistler » March 19, 2023, 9:36 am

Presentism a good word to describe such circumstances. We share that view.

However, I will still.press for my £5M for the hurt inflicted by the English in 1637 upon Scotland.
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