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Post by yartims » March 15, 2019, 8:54 pm

you cant leave the cosa nostra except with a bullet in your scull ,so likewise here


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Post by yartims » March 15, 2019, 9:05 pm

Apparently Hungarian PM Viktor Orban is going to veto an Article 50 extension, let’s all email him to say thanks!

miniszterelnok@mk.gov.hu or
orbanviktor@orbanviktor.hu
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Post by yartims » March 15, 2019, 9:14 pm

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/12/th ... -disaster/

Austria, on Sept. 20, 2018. (Christof Stache/AFP/Getty Images)

The language of the European Union’s Treaty of Lisbon, its last major constitutional document, is so insistently moral that one can almost lose sight of its practical details. “The Union,” it states, “is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities.” Its “aim is to promote peace” and “the well-being of its peoples.”

In the exhilaration that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union and the reunification of Europe, peace and well-being seemed no more, and no less, than the continent’s destiny. That euphoric end-of-history moment has, of course, turned out to be transitory, and the high-minded boilerplate of 1992 has become today’s burning ground. When voters go to the polls this May to choose a new European Parliament, an event that in the past has barely provoked a yawn, that larger idea–not the euro or the single market, and not the EU itself, but the post-Cold War conception of a federated space with harmonized policies on core issues and a joint commitment to democracy and the rule of law–will be at risk.

What has changed, of course, is the rise of nationalist parties, which now rule in Hungary, Poland, and Italy, and have grown in popularity in virtually every other major country in Europe. Current polls in France, for example, show French President Emmanuel Macron’s En Marche! (In Motion!) running no better than even with Marine Le Pen’s Rassemblement National (formerly the National Front). Italy’s Northern League party and Five Star Movement and Poland’s Law and Justice are also expected to make major gains–though so, too, are Green parties from Germany and Holland.
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 16, 2019, 7:44 pm

Quitting the EU after 46 years on March 29 remains the legal default unless EU leaders unanimously grant Britain an extension, with the issue likely to dominate a March 21-22 EU summit in Brussels
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Post by Lone Star » March 16, 2019, 8:08 pm

The question is will any vote of The People in the UK ever matter again?
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 17, 2019, 10:50 pm

yes few will bother voting again and any MPs who visit peoples houses canvassing will be attacked and beaten up by disenfranchised voters ..very dangerous waters we are now in.
MPs willl need body guards with weapons to protect them

but there isnt enough time to stop the leave date as it would have to go through parliament and go before the queen in order to change the law.

even darker days ahead next year when the lisbon treaty kicks in ..double EU contributions ,compulsory use of the euro .and have to join the euro army idea and closer integration ..then it will be game is up
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Post by yartims » March 17, 2019, 10:56 pm

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE LISBON TREATY, THE TREATY THAT COMES INTO FORCE 2020, ITS WORSE THAN THE SO CALLED DEAL, IF 99% OF THE BRITISH THINK TERESA MAYS DEAL IS BAD, JUST LOOK AT THE LISBON TREATY. PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, LEAVERS AND REMAIN ..“What will actually happen if we stay in the EU” is a question no remainer will ever answer but here it is warts and all. Check it out if you wish ——>> 1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed. 2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s. 3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty. 4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.) 5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK. 6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today. 7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals. 8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs. 9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas. 10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights 11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights 12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 - as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty 13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation 14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent 15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy 16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them 17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths 18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc 19: The UK loses control of its judicial system 20: The UK loses control of its international policy 21: The UK loses full control of its national policy 22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right. 23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program 24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction 25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty 26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020 This is the future that the youths of today think we stole from them? They should be on their knees thanking us for saving them from being turned into Orwellian automatons! Forget Deals no deals its time for remainers and brexiteers to unite and see whats coming before its to late. This is the whole reason they are dragging brexit out. So we can get to 2020 then we have no choices anymore
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by tinpeeba » March 18, 2019, 1:29 am

yartims - please don't post fake news - surely it's not too difficult to fact check first.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -fake-news

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What makes Toynbee news less fake?

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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 19, 2019, 8:30 pm

you cant trust the guardian a nasty lefty paper on its last legs begging for alms to keep afloat .not even the labour party will help em stay afloat
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 19, 2019, 8:32 pm

its fact that brits will have to join the euro and euro army if they stay trapped in the EU ..no choice any more
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 19, 2019, 11:39 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... l-liam-fox

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Post by Lone Star » March 20, 2019, 6:51 am

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Majority of Britons Don’t Trust Politicians to ‘Do The Right Thing By the Country Over Brexit’

Source: The Telegraph

Some numbers:

68% do not “trust MPs to do the right thing by the country over Brexit.” Asking on behalf of eurosceptic campaign group

44% believe that the government “seems to be in favour of remaining in the EU and has set out to thwart Brexit from the beginning” with just 27% disagree

50% believe that ruling out no deal weakened the UK’s negotiating hand

54% believe that May's withdrawal agreement does not deliver Brexit with only 18% thinking it does

61% believes that Brussels bureaucrats are out to punish the UK in negotiations by being as inflexible as possible

Sad, sad days for The People in the UK. Does the Will of the People mean anything anymore?
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by saint » March 20, 2019, 8:07 am

And its just about to get even sadder . Why oh why do we need an extention ? whats going to change in the next few months ? let alone another 2 years of this shyte .
Its the uncertainty thats killing the economy and the pound , so why prolong the torture .
House of commons is the laughing stock of the world , and they must be falling over themselves in Brussels , at the sheer bloody joke that is running Britain .
If MPs brains were dynamite they couldnt get enough gathered to blow Mays skirt up .

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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by GT93 » March 20, 2019, 12:36 pm

It's starting to look like the UK needs mummy EU to help the UK govern itself.

I read the delay as many MPs trying to avoid Brexit altogether. No Brexit still looks like a significant possibility to me if the EU doesn't throw the UK out of the EU next week.

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Post by GT93 » March 21, 2019, 11:34 am

I'm a bit surprised this thread isn't in overdrive today. :-k

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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by yartims » March 21, 2019, 7:47 pm

yep in limbo is making things far worse than it could be if they got on with a no deal exit ..spending is held back and many companies face doom and destruction in a short space of time ..

the hungarian PM could screw them all as hes in their bad books already
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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by glalt » March 21, 2019, 8:21 pm

Of course there will be an extension. The EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU. It's too bad the politicians are too stupid to see that. Too much vested interest?

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Re: British PM to face No confidence vote tonight

Post by GT93 » March 22, 2019, 1:13 am

I don't think that's correct. I recall reading in a British paper that some or even many EU countries will barely be affected by the UK leaving the EU. They don't do much trade with the UK. Some such as the Netherlands, Germany and France will be more affected but not to the extent of the UK. The UK, while by world standards still a large economy, is very small compared to the EU.

It looks to me as if the EU is sick of Brexit and keen to force the UK to make its decision sooner rather than later. The UK has now had years to work this out.

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