Just heard JR-M being interviewed on and he sounds a whole lot less cocksure than previously.stattointhailand wrote: ↑June 6, 2022, 6:50 pmBojo MUST be in trouble ........ he's had to let Moggy off the chain to support him (having previously told him to shut up and stay away during the election build up)
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JRM needs to pay the nation a windfall tax instead of hiding his cash away.
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The Serial Liar wins but he's badly wounded. Hopefully he'll be gone soon.
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Despite faring worse than Theresa May did in her confidence vote, Boris Johnson calls the result "extremely good, positive, conclusive, decisive."
By uttering that obvious fantasy in public, it's pretty obvious he's totally deranged. Maybe they need to do one of those Navy larks where some subordinate invokes an arcane rule so they can throw the Captain in the brig? Saw it on Star Trek once when Kirk threw a wobbly. They also were going to do it to me in "The Hunt for Red October."
Any Senior Service types here know how it really works?
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"PA News has this report on the impact so-called payroll votes may have had on the results of the confidence vote.
As many as four in five of the MPs who backed Boris Johnson in the confidence vote may have been on the so-called government “payroll”.
Between 160 and 170 MPs currently hold government roles, such as ministers and parliamentary private secretaries, according to analysis by the Institute for Government. It would be hoped by Downing Street that all of these MPs would have backed Johnson in the confidence vote.
Were this the case, around 80% of the 211 MPs who voted for the prime minister in Monday’s ballot could be said to have done so chiefly out of duty rather than loyalty. The rest of the 211 MPs who said they had confidence in Johnson will have been backbench MPs who are not on the payroll. But with as many as 170 payroll votes supporting the prime minister, the figures suggest only a few dozen non-payroll votes also voted in favour, implying that Johnson has lost the confidence of the majority of the Conservative backbenchers."
Dead man walking
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... op-of-blog
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/even-win-bori ... 38526.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html
As many as four in five of the MPs who backed Boris Johnson in the confidence vote may have been on the so-called government “payroll”.
Between 160 and 170 MPs currently hold government roles, such as ministers and parliamentary private secretaries, according to analysis by the Institute for Government. It would be hoped by Downing Street that all of these MPs would have backed Johnson in the confidence vote.
Were this the case, around 80% of the 211 MPs who voted for the prime minister in Monday’s ballot could be said to have done so chiefly out of duty rather than loyalty. The rest of the 211 MPs who said they had confidence in Johnson will have been backbench MPs who are not on the payroll. But with as many as 170 payroll votes supporting the prime minister, the figures suggest only a few dozen non-payroll votes also voted in favour, implying that Johnson has lost the confidence of the majority of the Conservative backbenchers."
Dead man walking
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... op-of-blog
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/even-win-bori ... 38526.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html
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how do you fix such a broken system? no-one even has any confidence in the no-confidence vote
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The 148 rebel Tories dramatically outnumber Johnson’s working parliamentary majority of 75.
More unpopular than his predecessor.
I wonder if he'll even make it to Guy Fawkes Night, let alone Christmas.
More unpopular than his predecessor.
I wonder if he'll even make it to Guy Fawkes Night, let alone Christmas.
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I learned a lot in just under 8 minutes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/opin ... andal.html
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there's just some things you don't do. telling the
common man he can't have his pints . while your
holding frat toga parties at 10 downing. toga toga
common man he can't have his pints . while your
holding frat toga parties at 10 downing. toga toga
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You have it, Oxbridge fannies having a hoot and roar in No.10 while us commoners were doing our bit. Time to put a few up against the wall starting with the 211 MPs from last night.
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How the worm turns .....
Seems to have been glossed over how John Penrose (Anti corruption tsar) who resigned because he felt Bojo was now too corrupt to continue, received millions/tens of millions of this corrupt money when his wife was tasked to provide the "Test & Trace" system during covid ....... money well spent?
Also Jesse Norman who wrote a stinging letter calling for Bojo to be ousted, may or may not have reason to want the paper trail covered due to the fact his wife was given a contract and millions of pounds to sort out the vaccination system which after a reasonable early start fell behind the rest pretty quickly and for no obvious reason
As they both put letters in, it really is worrying to think how much those that still backed Bojo must have received
Seems to have been glossed over how John Penrose (Anti corruption tsar) who resigned because he felt Bojo was now too corrupt to continue, received millions/tens of millions of this corrupt money when his wife was tasked to provide the "Test & Trace" system during covid ....... money well spent?
Also Jesse Norman who wrote a stinging letter calling for Bojo to be ousted, may or may not have reason to want the paper trail covered due to the fact his wife was given a contract and millions of pounds to sort out the vaccination system which after a reasonable early start fell behind the rest pretty quickly and for no obvious reason
As they both put letters in, it really is worrying to think how much those that still backed Bojo must have received
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You may have something with Baroness Harding of Winscombe and the Test & Trace debacle. However, Dame Catherine Elizabeth Bingham DBE's shortish AND UNPAID tenure with the UK Vaccine Taskforce may be because she sussed out quite quickly what a totally corrupt shitshow she was expected to work with.stattointhailand wrote: ↑June 8, 2022, 8:03 pmHow the worm turns .....
Seems to have been glossed over how John Penrose (Anti corruption tsar) who resigned because he felt Bojo was now too corrupt to continue, received millions/tens of millions of this corrupt money when his wife was tasked to provide the "Test & Trace" system during covid ....... money well spent?
Also Jesse Norman who wrote a stinging letter calling for Bojo to be ousted, may or may not have reason to want the paper trail covered due to the fact his wife was given a contract and millions of pounds to sort out the vaccination system which after a reasonable early start fell behind the rest pretty quickly and for no obvious reason
As they both put letters in, it really is worrying to think how much those that still backed Bojo must have received
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Goodness ........... even if half of what appears in this video is correct, you can only wonder about the state of the Tory Party, and its principle-free decision to elect Johnson as PM in the first place.
And this is all before the Partygate scandals.
And this is all before the Partygate scandals.
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Unfortunate choice of a female commentator but. She sounds like a bitter harpy who missed out on getting some of Boris's man yogurt.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 14, 2022, 10:37 amGoodness ........... even if half of what appears in this video is correct, you can only wonder about the state of the Tory Party, and its principle-free decision to elect Johnson as PM in the first place.
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And this is all before the Partygate scandals.
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Great video jack. The UK kind of deserves Johnson; his form was well known.
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Can't say Joe public wasn't warned about Bojo, after all during his time as London Mayor he got "listed building status" removed from several properties to enable his building company mates to demolish historically valuable sites and make a quick buck building flats/offices on the sites
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Grubby little man, ugh!
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Very good pipadoo.
I see the rot at the top in the UK is spreading throughout the country:
I'm pretty open-minded but this is going way too far. This is disgraceful. There's no mention of disciplinary action other than not sending them overseas. If the police can't ping them for something, surely their employer can smack them a bit harder. These lads like Johnson seem to have been very lucky not to have been axed (sacked).
I see the rot at the top in the UK is spreading throughout the country:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... deploymentHundreds of paratroopers have reportedly been banned from an annual Nato deployment to the Balkans after videos emerged of an orgy at a military barracks.
In a letter to generals and commanding officers, the new head of the army, Gen Sir Patrick Sanders, said he was not willing to “risk the mission or the reputation of the British army” by sending them overseas.
It emerged this month that eight paratroopers from 16 Air Assault Brigade had been placed under police investigation after being filmed having a consensual orgy with a civilian woman at Merville barracks in Colchester, Essex, while dozens of others watched.
I'm pretty open-minded but this is going way too far. This is disgraceful. There's no mention of disciplinary action other than not sending them overseas. If the police can't ping them for something, surely their employer can smack them a bit harder. These lads like Johnson seem to have been very lucky not to have been axed (sacked).
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